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That's utter nonsense. Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 18/01/2010 04:19:57 AM
You are not wrong about your distinction between civil & religious weddings. However, same-sex marriage forces others to treat unions to which they are personally opposed as legitimate. For example, nothing stops an employer from extending his health benefits to his exployees' same-sex partner if he chooses, and the free market means that employers who do such things have an advantage in trying to attract employees who would be interested (and for the Christians, the right of an employer to spend his money as he pleases in such a manner is supported by the Gospels, so this should not be an issue) in this benefit. Meanwhile those who oppose it are free to withhold such recognition and also free to accept the consequences of losing employees who dislike such a policy. The point is, everyone is free to act according to his or her beliefs. Not so if same-sex marriage is legalized. Now everyone must accept same-sex marriage under threat of force, even if it violates their conscience or religion. By trying to get legal recognition for same-sex marriage, it supporters aer the ones trying to ram THEIR ideology down everyone's throat!


It forces them to treat same-sex unions as existent, just like heterosexual marriages, and that's it. Many of the devout religious view any "civil" marriage, i.e. a union that was not sanctified by a church, as illegitimate, but that's their religious preference and not something they get to legislate via the government.

Also, your attempt to justify governing with religious preference through free-market rhetoric is just pathetic.
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I may have lost a friend over same sex marriage - 17/01/2010 08:03:26 AM 1724 Views
the problem with your friend is the "southern evangelical christian" part - 17/01/2010 09:07:02 AM 1038 Views
They believe gay marriage is ongoing unrepentant sin. - 17/01/2010 12:04:58 PM 1041 Views
God your a moron. - 17/01/2010 09:10:17 PM 979 Views
be nice - 18/01/2010 06:26:58 AM 914 Views
<shrug> They can believe that all that they like - 18/01/2010 08:07:28 PM 986 Views
And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 18/01/2010 11:10:51 PM 945 Views
Re: And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 20/01/2010 10:40:36 PM 911 Views
It is, I believe, hardest for the intelligent educated man. - 21/01/2010 10:29:39 AM 1060 Views
You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 17/01/2010 10:12:11 AM 940 Views
LOL... *NM* - 18/01/2010 05:21:14 AM 522 Views
You and Adam are being equally unconstructive. - 18/01/2010 06:21:45 AM 838 Views
why do you imply "constructive" is in anyway the intent? *NM* - 18/01/2010 06:32:27 AM 411 Views
*shrug* I never stopped believing in lost causes? - 18/01/2010 07:36:04 AM 841 Views
Re: You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 18/01/2010 06:28:41 AM 1037 Views
Always welcome. - 18/01/2010 07:31:27 AM 1091 Views
We finally converted you - 17/01/2010 08:43:25 PM 856 Views
Not much of a friend then. Good ridance to bad friends. *NM* - 17/01/2010 08:51:02 PM 554 Views
I agree. A friend who can't respect differences of opinion is no friend at all. *NM* - 17/01/2010 09:11:33 PM 429 Views
seriously. *NM* - 17/01/2010 10:46:17 PM 379 Views
Only because such sentiment is my pet peeve...condemning exclusivity is hypocritical. *NM* - 19/01/2010 12:37:37 AM 473 Views
yeah no kidding - 18/01/2010 06:30:45 AM 843 Views
It forces other people to accept THEIR ideology that same sex unions are legitimate. - 18/01/2010 01:49:20 AM 1065 Views
I would assume, then, that you don't support any government-mandated health care? - 18/01/2010 02:07:40 AM 851 Views
Correct - 18/01/2010 04:29:04 AM 935 Views
Although I disagree with the vast majority of your arguments, - 18/01/2010 08:50:09 AM 923 Views
Thank you. - 20/01/2010 01:47:34 AM 1095 Views
Please tell me you have a source for that quotation. Other than me. - 21/01/2010 12:31:27 PM 978 Views
It's GK Chesterton! What the hell are you going on about? - 27/01/2010 02:41:00 AM 815 Views
Link? - 27/01/2010 09:28:22 AM 945 Views
I can't find a link to the exact quote - 27/01/2010 12:14:19 PM 1043 Views
Re: Link? - 27/01/2010 01:38:36 PM 1045 Views
Perhaps we should define our terms more precisely. - 15/02/2010 11:28:09 AM 1436 Views
we do not exist in a free market. - 18/01/2010 04:09:37 AM 821 Views
And that's bad. Since when has the correct response to oppression been "accept further oppression"? *NM* - 18/01/2010 04:30:44 AM 424 Views
I am simply pointing out your arguments do not apply to the present economic environment. - 18/01/2010 04:46:04 AM 812 Views
No I am not. - 19/01/2010 10:44:31 PM 927 Views
That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:19:57 AM 870 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:41:27 AM 906 Views
civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 18/01/2010 04:49:12 AM 861 Views
Re: civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 19/01/2010 10:47:18 PM 987 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:13:54 AM 860 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 19/01/2010 10:59:45 PM 849 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:15:50 AM 1024 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 20/01/2010 01:38:37 AM 790 Views
Are you at all surprised? - 18/01/2010 07:59:30 AM 874 Views
A truly free country means I don't have the freedom to shoot you - 18/01/2010 05:57:44 AM 984 Views
You really said nothing, right there. - 18/01/2010 08:34:33 AM 916 Views
I presume you are equally against the current set up - 18/01/2010 12:31:33 PM 963 Views
He said as much in his response to me above. *NM* - 18/01/2010 09:37:49 PM 360 Views
That's such an amusing argument - 18/01/2010 08:17:15 PM 833 Views
I'm against people with pasta based nicknames on fantasy forums *NM* - 19/01/2010 03:03:31 PM 375 Views
cannoli is a pastry *NM* - 19/01/2010 07:25:04 PM 362 Views
I have no problem with people with pastry based names, just pasta - 21/01/2010 12:28:44 AM 827 Views
I can't help but find it funny - 18/01/2010 12:51:57 PM 822 Views
So... - 18/01/2010 03:39:33 PM 979 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out - 18/01/2010 04:11:05 PM 860 Views
you acept your friends with their warts or you don't - 18/01/2010 06:45:13 PM 961 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out *NM* - 18/01/2010 08:01:25 PM 318 Views
I don't think it was that clear - 18/01/2010 10:01:32 PM 891 Views
I don't think it is all that clear yet, either - 18/01/2010 10:27:54 PM 919 Views
I wasn't taking sides - 18/01/2010 10:57:39 PM 820 Views

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