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you acept your friends with their warts or you don't random thoughts Send a noteboard - 18/01/2010 06:45:13 PM

So she has some religious beliefs you don't agree with if she is a friend in other regards simply stop discussing religion with her. Arguing why you don't think she should hold her beliefs would be like arguing that a Muslim should eat pork. It doesn't matter what argument you use it won't trump what her religion teaches her. Now if it is her refusing to accept you and your right to hold your own beliefs then you are better off without her.

Leave the much more touchy gay marriage argument and look at the more straightforward you cannot go to heaven argument. I can’t quote chapter and verse but the bible says straight out that acts will not get you to heaven and the only way to get there is though accepting Christ as your savior. That isn’t some crazy concept a fundamentalist church in Texas came up with by misreading a single passage, it is a basic tenant of the Christian religion. It is pretty much on par with Muslims accepting Mohamed was the prophet of god. I would have to say you judging her for that belief shows intolerance on your part not the other way around.

The gay marriage issue is much more complicated since it isn’t verbatim from the bible and it involves actually denying something from other people but it still stems form the same belief system. Do you feel so strongly about the issue that you can only be friends with people who feel the same way? There are issues I feel so strongly about that I won't be friends with people who disagree but they tend to be extreme views and not ones held by significant percentages of the population.

She is right about one thing, you have to watch out for those crazy east coast liberals. ;)
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I may have lost a friend over same sex marriage - 17/01/2010 08:03:26 AM 1656 Views
the problem with your friend is the "southern evangelical christian" part - 17/01/2010 09:07:02 AM 968 Views
They believe gay marriage is ongoing unrepentant sin. - 17/01/2010 12:04:58 PM 978 Views
God your a moron. - 17/01/2010 09:10:17 PM 913 Views
be nice - 18/01/2010 06:26:58 AM 843 Views
<shrug> They can believe that all that they like - 18/01/2010 08:07:28 PM 901 Views
And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 18/01/2010 11:10:51 PM 882 Views
Re: And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 20/01/2010 10:40:36 PM 844 Views
It is, I believe, hardest for the intelligent educated man. - 21/01/2010 10:29:39 AM 1006 Views
You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 17/01/2010 10:12:11 AM 862 Views
LOL... *NM* - 18/01/2010 05:21:14 AM 483 Views
You and Adam are being equally unconstructive. - 18/01/2010 06:21:45 AM 780 Views
why do you imply "constructive" is in anyway the intent? *NM* - 18/01/2010 06:32:27 AM 376 Views
*shrug* I never stopped believing in lost causes? - 18/01/2010 07:36:04 AM 777 Views
Re: You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 18/01/2010 06:28:41 AM 953 Views
Always welcome. - 18/01/2010 07:31:27 AM 1014 Views
We finally converted you - 17/01/2010 08:43:25 PM 793 Views
Not much of a friend then. Good ridance to bad friends. *NM* - 17/01/2010 08:51:02 PM 515 Views
I agree. A friend who can't respect differences of opinion is no friend at all. *NM* - 17/01/2010 09:11:33 PM 388 Views
seriously. *NM* - 17/01/2010 10:46:17 PM 334 Views
Only because such sentiment is my pet peeve...condemning exclusivity is hypocritical. *NM* - 19/01/2010 12:37:37 AM 423 Views
yeah no kidding - 18/01/2010 06:30:45 AM 770 Views
It forces other people to accept THEIR ideology that same sex unions are legitimate. - 18/01/2010 01:49:20 AM 961 Views
I would assume, then, that you don't support any government-mandated health care? - 18/01/2010 02:07:40 AM 783 Views
Correct - 18/01/2010 04:29:04 AM 862 Views
Although I disagree with the vast majority of your arguments, - 18/01/2010 08:50:09 AM 851 Views
Thank you. - 20/01/2010 01:47:34 AM 1030 Views
Please tell me you have a source for that quotation. Other than me. - 21/01/2010 12:31:27 PM 908 Views
It's GK Chesterton! What the hell are you going on about? - 27/01/2010 02:41:00 AM 746 Views
Link? - 27/01/2010 09:28:22 AM 890 Views
I can't find a link to the exact quote - 27/01/2010 12:14:19 PM 976 Views
Re: Link? - 27/01/2010 01:38:36 PM 986 Views
Perhaps we should define our terms more precisely. - 15/02/2010 11:28:09 AM 1371 Views
we do not exist in a free market. - 18/01/2010 04:09:37 AM 771 Views
And that's bad. Since when has the correct response to oppression been "accept further oppression"? *NM* - 18/01/2010 04:30:44 AM 383 Views
I am simply pointing out your arguments do not apply to the present economic environment. - 18/01/2010 04:46:04 AM 748 Views
No I am not. - 19/01/2010 10:44:31 PM 862 Views
That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:19:57 AM 807 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:41:27 AM 849 Views
civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 18/01/2010 04:49:12 AM 796 Views
Re: civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 19/01/2010 10:47:18 PM 911 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:13:54 AM 802 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 19/01/2010 10:59:45 PM 781 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:15:50 AM 948 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 20/01/2010 01:38:37 AM 715 Views
Are you at all surprised? - 18/01/2010 07:59:30 AM 798 Views
A truly free country means I don't have the freedom to shoot you - 18/01/2010 05:57:44 AM 921 Views
You really said nothing, right there. - 18/01/2010 08:34:33 AM 843 Views
I presume you are equally against the current set up - 18/01/2010 12:31:33 PM 885 Views
He said as much in his response to me above. *NM* - 18/01/2010 09:37:49 PM 324 Views
That's such an amusing argument - 18/01/2010 08:17:15 PM 761 Views
I'm against people with pasta based nicknames on fantasy forums *NM* - 19/01/2010 03:03:31 PM 338 Views
cannoli is a pastry *NM* - 19/01/2010 07:25:04 PM 321 Views
I have no problem with people with pastry based names, just pasta - 21/01/2010 12:28:44 AM 763 Views
I can't help but find it funny - 18/01/2010 12:51:57 PM 752 Views
So... - 18/01/2010 03:39:33 PM 912 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out - 18/01/2010 04:11:05 PM 790 Views
you acept your friends with their warts or you don't - 18/01/2010 06:45:13 PM 891 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out *NM* - 18/01/2010 08:01:25 PM 285 Views
I don't think it was that clear - 18/01/2010 10:01:32 PM 836 Views
I don't think it is all that clear yet, either - 18/01/2010 10:27:54 PM 834 Views
I wasn't taking sides - 18/01/2010 10:57:39 PM 722 Views

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