As far as the government is concerned, all marriages are "Civil Unions." There is absolutely no mandated role of religion anywhere in marriage laws.
As there is no part of any proposed law that would force churches to perform marriages of any kind (despite what the best whako fundo conspiracy theories have to say).
What the laws DO is force others to respect the rights of people they disagree with. Used to be, whether or not a restaurant could serve Blacks was dependent on an owners whimsy. The laws that trumped that idea were most certainly a violation of any concept of completely free market, but wouldn't you know it, Americans decided that a truly free market was insane a LONG time ago.
Now? It's just a tired argument for people who wish to insist that they have a right to be stubborn at their own expense.
As there is no part of any proposed law that would force churches to perform marriages of any kind (despite what the best whako fundo conspiracy theories have to say).
What the laws DO is force others to respect the rights of people they disagree with. Used to be, whether or not a restaurant could serve Blacks was dependent on an owners whimsy. The laws that trumped that idea were most certainly a violation of any concept of completely free market, but wouldn't you know it, Americans decided that a truly free market was insane a LONG time ago.
Now? It's just a tired argument for people who wish to insist that they have a right to be stubborn at their own expense.
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I may have lost a friend over same sex marriage
- 17/01/2010 08:03:26 AM
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the problem with your friend is the "southern evangelical christian" part
- 17/01/2010 09:07:02 AM
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They believe gay marriage is ongoing unrepentant sin.
- 17/01/2010 12:04:58 PM
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God your a moron.
- 17/01/2010 09:10:17 PM
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That was remarkably unconstructive.
- 18/01/2010 12:13:45 AM
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youll have to excuse Adam, he is a Heathen, its not his fault 
*NM*
- 18/01/2010 06:26:34 AM
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*NM*
- 18/01/2010 06:26:34 AM
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Ad hominems w/o substance are never excusable, especially in one who knows beter: They're forfeits.
- 18/01/2010 06:39:33 AM
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<shrug> They can believe that all that they like
- 18/01/2010 08:07:28 PM
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And live accordingly. Just like everyone else.
- 18/01/2010 11:10:51 PM
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You can't use logic in an irrational argument.
- 17/01/2010 10:12:11 AM
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LOL... *NM*
- 18/01/2010 05:21:14 AM
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You and Adam are being equally unconstructive.
- 18/01/2010 06:21:45 AM
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First, I'm nothing at all like Adam.
- 18/01/2010 06:33:54 AM
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I was similarly unclear what prompted the comments, but I only needed you to elaborate a little.
- 18/01/2010 07:37:43 AM
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Not much of a friend then. Good ridance to bad friends. *NM*
- 17/01/2010 08:51:02 PM
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I agree. A friend who can't respect differences of opinion is no friend at all. *NM*
- 17/01/2010 09:11:33 PM
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seriously. *NM*
- 17/01/2010 10:46:17 PM
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Only because such sentiment is my pet peeve...condemning exclusivity is hypocritical. *NM*
- 19/01/2010 12:37:37 AM
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It forces other people to accept THEIR ideology that same sex unions are legitimate.
- 18/01/2010 01:49:20 AM
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I would assume, then, that you don't support any government-mandated health care?
- 18/01/2010 02:07:40 AM
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Correct
- 18/01/2010 04:29:04 AM
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Although I disagree with the vast majority of your arguments,
- 18/01/2010 08:50:09 AM
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Thank you.
- 20/01/2010 01:47:34 AM
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Please tell me you have a source for that quotation. Other than me.
- 21/01/2010 12:31:27 PM
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It's GK Chesterton! What the hell are you going on about?
- 27/01/2010 02:41:00 AM
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we do not exist in a free market.
- 18/01/2010 04:09:37 AM
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And that's bad. Since when has the correct response to oppression been "accept further oppression"? *NM*
- 18/01/2010 04:30:44 AM
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I am simply pointing out your arguments do not apply to the present economic environment.
- 18/01/2010 04:46:04 AM
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That's utter nonsense.
- 18/01/2010 04:19:57 AM
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Re: That's utter nonsense.
- 18/01/2010 04:41:27 AM
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Re: That's utter nonsense.
- 18/01/2010 07:15:50 AM
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Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
- 18/01/2010 07:49:27 AM
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- 18/01/2010 07:49:27 AM
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I really dont like the idea of a black person marrying a white person
- 18/01/2010 06:36:26 AM
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You really said nothing, right there.
- 18/01/2010 08:34:33 AM
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That's such an amusing argument
- 18/01/2010 08:17:15 PM
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And you're fairly appalling in either pretending to misunderstand free markets or in your stupidity
- 27/01/2010 03:00:21 AM
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I'm against people with pasta based nicknames on fantasy forums *NM*
- 19/01/2010 03:03:31 PM
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cannoli is a pastry 
*NM*
- 19/01/2010 07:25:04 PM
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*NM*
- 19/01/2010 07:25:04 PM
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I have no problem with people with pastry based names, just pasta
- 21/01/2010 12:28:44 AM
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you acept your friends with their warts or you don't
- 18/01/2010 06:45:13 PM
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I think you missed who was the one to walk out *NM*
- 18/01/2010 08:01:25 PM
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I don't think it was that clear
- 18/01/2010 10:01:32 PM
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