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If we don't get a handle on healthcare it will destroy the economy. Joel Send a noteboard - 18/01/2010 06:01:18 PM
If a liberal bastion like Mass is up for grabs how much does that worry dems in red areas? Putting health care reform over correcting the economy may go down as one the great political blunders in modern American politics.

Not that this bill does squat for that, but things like that and the recent resurgence of TB (once thought eradicated) among the homeless is what that was (theoretically... ) about there. My bet is that the opposition to the healthcare bill in a state that elected Ted Kennedy for over 30 years is more from people who think they didn't get what they voted for than those who wanted no bill at all. I reckon we'll see in about ten months.
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Could the Dems really lose in Mass - Kennedy's seat? trzaska2000 - 18/01/2010 03:19:29 PM 702 Views
to quote yogi berra: it ain't over till it's over moondog - 18/01/2010 04:10:26 PM 294 Views
Oh, if Brown wins, I'm sure he will be out next election..... trzaska2000 - 18/01/2010 04:28:05 PM 287 Views
it works both ways you know moondog - 18/01/2010 04:37:40 PM 296 Views
I disagree... Dominic - 20/01/2010 04:11:15 AM 318 Views
Even if he loses and it is close I think it will scare a lot of democrats random thoughts - 18/01/2010 04:15:03 PM 297 Views
You may be right on that last bit, unfortunately... *NM* Legolas - 18/01/2010 04:18:37 PM 133 Views
Agreed - blunder of epic proportions! *NM* trzaska2000 - 18/01/2010 04:30:18 PM 132 Views
If we don't get a handle on healthcare it will destroy the economy. Joel - 18/01/2010 06:01:18 PM 294 Views
It makes people question their priorities random thoughts - 18/01/2010 08:17:16 PM 362 Views
Maybe they should. Joel - 18/01/2010 09:47:11 PM 321 Views
You act like America is a collective random thoughts - 18/01/2010 10:16:39 PM 377 Views
Is it? What are the Republicans offering for the non-insured? Legolas - 18/01/2010 10:20:42 PM 290 Views
Tort reform Floffe - 18/01/2010 10:33:01 PM 278 Views
Ah yes. Which they're quite right about, of course - but one item does not a policy make. *NM* Legolas - 18/01/2010 10:35:55 PM 134 Views
purchase insurance across state lines random thoughts - 18/01/2010 10:44:54 PM 278 Views
the dems don't see insurance companies as the enemy either moondog - 18/01/2010 11:09:24 PM 279 Views
Exactly. Joel - 19/01/2010 02:09:49 AM 383 Views
that simply proves they are inept random thoughts - 19/01/2010 01:45:33 PM 285 Views
Or in the lobbies' pockets, or both; now you understand why the left is as mad as the right. Joel - 19/01/2010 11:55:14 PM 298 Views
Of course they did nothing for the 6 years they controlled Congress. everynametaken - 19/01/2010 12:39:44 AM 346 Views
That isn't true, my mother-in-law can now afford to buy her medicine random thoughts - 19/01/2010 01:57:28 PM 365 Views
Curious about the last part. Joel - 20/01/2010 12:05:40 AM 368 Views
There are some basic flaws in your argument random thoughts - 20/01/2010 03:18:58 PM 275 Views
The state laws are the result of the gentlemens agreement and the feds not minding the store. Joel - 20/01/2010 06:18:50 PM 346 Views
The insurance exchanges in the Senate bill will already do that. Joel - 19/01/2010 02:25:32 AM 306 Views
America, like all groups of people, IS a collective, however diverse. Joel - 19/01/2010 02:02:24 AM 423 Views
but it doesn't think like a collective random thoughts - 20/01/2010 03:25:29 PM 279 Views
Yes, I realize human beings are selfish; that's something to overcome, not embrace. Joel - 20/01/2010 06:21:33 PM 270 Views
Human nature can not be overcome it can only be redirected random thoughts - 20/01/2010 07:03:46 PM 284 Views
That's a bigger debate than politics. Joel - 20/01/2010 10:42:02 PM 399 Views
I know who I'm voting for! LiterateDog - 18/01/2010 04:26:29 PM 313 Views
I'm starting to think..... trzaska2000 - 18/01/2010 04:33:23 PM 309 Views
Certainly, he wouldn't stand a chance without protest votes. *NM* Legolas - 18/01/2010 04:45:37 PM 138 Views
That whole "filibuster-proof" concept was a lot more valid... Legolas - 18/01/2010 04:44:51 PM 378 Views
I have seen this argument elsewhere and I am not sure it makes sense random thoughts - 18/01/2010 05:28:57 PM 361 Views
It does not make sense if it's used in a partisan way, that's true. Legolas - 18/01/2010 05:43:10 PM 385 Views
I think the fillibuster is with in the spirit and the law on the constitution random thoughts - 18/01/2010 06:03:55 PM 357 Views
Fair enough. Legolas - 18/01/2010 10:00:16 PM 280 Views
Any argument made by Dowd is suspect from the start random thoughts - 18/01/2010 10:39:28 PM 338 Views
They should keep making them actually filibuster, yes. Joel - 18/01/2010 10:09:01 PM 459 Views
Fight the good fight, my man...er...dog! Tom - 18/01/2010 05:48:08 PM 283 Views
I hope so. If people like me support Brown, then you know the Democrats are fucked. The Shrike - 18/01/2010 05:13:27 PM 309 Views
It's amazing, but even GWB and the R's didn't alienate the public so quickly..... trzaska2000 - 18/01/2010 10:02:27 PM 302 Views
Of course, they weren't in a crisis this bad. *NM* Legolas - 18/01/2010 10:22:46 PM 138 Views
I read Nate Silver at fivethirtyeight.com and he's refusing to call it... Tom - 18/01/2010 11:03:03 PM 298 Views
Thanks. I was racking my brains for the name of that site. *NM* Ghavrel - 19/01/2010 01:03:29 AM 126 Views
Wuss (that's directed facetiously at Silver, btw, not you seriously. ) Joel - 19/01/2010 02:31:58 AM 392 Views
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