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Yes, I realize human beings are selfish; that's something to overcome, not embrace. Joel Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 06:21:33 PM
And it really isn't just Americans. It is against human for people to say "forget what is best for do what is best for the masses". There are people who support that that process in theory and there small groups who have actaully bought into it but as species we look at these as how will affect us.

For one thing, it's once again myopic: The lone wolf dies. It's not about being a martyr (not in politics, ever) it's about not cutting off your nose to spite your face and being able to see more than five seconds into the future. I'd love to see people always do the right thing for the right reasons, but that ship sailed long ago.
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Could the Dems really lose in Mass - Kennedy's seat? trzaska2000 - 18/01/2010 03:19:29 PM 705 Views
to quote yogi berra: it ain't over till it's over moondog - 18/01/2010 04:10:26 PM 296 Views
Oh, if Brown wins, I'm sure he will be out next election..... trzaska2000 - 18/01/2010 04:28:05 PM 287 Views
it works both ways you know moondog - 18/01/2010 04:37:40 PM 297 Views
I disagree... Dominic - 20/01/2010 04:11:15 AM 319 Views
Even if he loses and it is close I think it will scare a lot of democrats random thoughts - 18/01/2010 04:15:03 PM 299 Views
You may be right on that last bit, unfortunately... *NM* Legolas - 18/01/2010 04:18:37 PM 133 Views
Agreed - blunder of epic proportions! *NM* trzaska2000 - 18/01/2010 04:30:18 PM 132 Views
If we don't get a handle on healthcare it will destroy the economy. Joel - 18/01/2010 06:01:18 PM 295 Views
It makes people question their priorities random thoughts - 18/01/2010 08:17:16 PM 364 Views
Maybe they should. Joel - 18/01/2010 09:47:11 PM 323 Views
You act like America is a collective random thoughts - 18/01/2010 10:16:39 PM 378 Views
Is it? What are the Republicans offering for the non-insured? Legolas - 18/01/2010 10:20:42 PM 292 Views
Tort reform Floffe - 18/01/2010 10:33:01 PM 280 Views
Ah yes. Which they're quite right about, of course - but one item does not a policy make. *NM* Legolas - 18/01/2010 10:35:55 PM 134 Views
purchase insurance across state lines random thoughts - 18/01/2010 10:44:54 PM 280 Views
the dems don't see insurance companies as the enemy either moondog - 18/01/2010 11:09:24 PM 282 Views
Exactly. Joel - 19/01/2010 02:09:49 AM 383 Views
that simply proves they are inept random thoughts - 19/01/2010 01:45:33 PM 285 Views
Or in the lobbies' pockets, or both; now you understand why the left is as mad as the right. Joel - 19/01/2010 11:55:14 PM 300 Views
Of course they did nothing for the 6 years they controlled Congress. everynametaken - 19/01/2010 12:39:44 AM 348 Views
That isn't true, my mother-in-law can now afford to buy her medicine random thoughts - 19/01/2010 01:57:28 PM 365 Views
Curious about the last part. Joel - 20/01/2010 12:05:40 AM 371 Views
There are some basic flaws in your argument random thoughts - 20/01/2010 03:18:58 PM 278 Views
The state laws are the result of the gentlemens agreement and the feds not minding the store. Joel - 20/01/2010 06:18:50 PM 347 Views
The insurance exchanges in the Senate bill will already do that. Joel - 19/01/2010 02:25:32 AM 308 Views
America, like all groups of people, IS a collective, however diverse. Joel - 19/01/2010 02:02:24 AM 426 Views
but it doesn't think like a collective random thoughts - 20/01/2010 03:25:29 PM 281 Views
Yes, I realize human beings are selfish; that's something to overcome, not embrace. Joel - 20/01/2010 06:21:33 PM 272 Views
Human nature can not be overcome it can only be redirected random thoughts - 20/01/2010 07:03:46 PM 286 Views
That's a bigger debate than politics. Joel - 20/01/2010 10:42:02 PM 401 Views
I know who I'm voting for! LiterateDog - 18/01/2010 04:26:29 PM 315 Views
I'm starting to think..... trzaska2000 - 18/01/2010 04:33:23 PM 311 Views
Certainly, he wouldn't stand a chance without protest votes. *NM* Legolas - 18/01/2010 04:45:37 PM 138 Views
That whole "filibuster-proof" concept was a lot more valid... Legolas - 18/01/2010 04:44:51 PM 379 Views
I have seen this argument elsewhere and I am not sure it makes sense random thoughts - 18/01/2010 05:28:57 PM 363 Views
It does not make sense if it's used in a partisan way, that's true. Legolas - 18/01/2010 05:43:10 PM 387 Views
I think the fillibuster is with in the spirit and the law on the constitution random thoughts - 18/01/2010 06:03:55 PM 359 Views
Fair enough. Legolas - 18/01/2010 10:00:16 PM 281 Views
Any argument made by Dowd is suspect from the start random thoughts - 18/01/2010 10:39:28 PM 340 Views
They should keep making them actually filibuster, yes. Joel - 18/01/2010 10:09:01 PM 462 Views
Fight the good fight, my man...er...dog! Tom - 18/01/2010 05:48:08 PM 286 Views
I hope so. If people like me support Brown, then you know the Democrats are fucked. The Shrike - 18/01/2010 05:13:27 PM 312 Views
It's amazing, but even GWB and the R's didn't alienate the public so quickly..... trzaska2000 - 18/01/2010 10:02:27 PM 303 Views
Of course, they weren't in a crisis this bad. *NM* Legolas - 18/01/2010 10:22:46 PM 138 Views
I read Nate Silver at fivethirtyeight.com and he's refusing to call it... Tom - 18/01/2010 11:03:03 PM 300 Views
Thanks. I was racking my brains for the name of that site. *NM* Ghavrel - 19/01/2010 01:03:29 AM 126 Views
Wuss (that's directed facetiously at Silver, btw, not you seriously. ) Joel - 19/01/2010 02:31:58 AM 394 Views
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