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Well there is a difference between... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM
After all that whining about those bus ads a while back, this would be great.


It would be interesting to see someone try and spin an atheism message as being positive, when at its very core all it does it take away...

~Jeordam


Or the UCC ad would have been allowed ;)



positivity & well, being disruptive. The UCC has a long standing history of ascribing to beliefs/viewpoints that run counter culture to not only the Christian church as a whole, but the very theology that is supposed to be the basis of their faith. Their ad was at its very core, self-serving & divisive. Tim's ad with his mother is neither.

~Jeordam
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Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM 2048 Views
I think that its a fantastic idea... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM 1329 Views
agreed... somewhat. lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM 1317 Views
See, that's the debate here... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM 1028 Views
depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 960 Views
You make baby Allah cry. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 602 Views
was it the dog comparison? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM 1105 Views
Nah, Dog is God reversed, after all. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:29:12 PM 1031 Views
parasites! parasites i say!!! LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:37:53 PM 1066 Views
yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions Aisha - 28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM 1055 Views
Do those conditions include "I don't want a baby"? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:52:24 PM 1314 Views
some scholars say yes, some say no Aisha - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM 1172 Views
Shall we be technical.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM 1048 Views
And since when are you a trained eye? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM 1160 Views
A valid question Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:07:16 PM 1008 Views
Okay then, that's fair enough LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:48:10 PM 1045 Views
If there's a chance the mother might die... LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM 1084 Views
What if the "real" preson is an asshole? I'd gamble on the baby who has the potential to not be. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:44:57 PM 1052 Views
I wasn't commenting on the commercial, I did that further below. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:59:17 PM 1046 Views
Which is why I'm against elective abortion Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM 1076 Views
Then we are in accord. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM 1071 Views
That works.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM 1070 Views
And I think that is wonderful. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:33:05 PM 1179 Views
I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM 1143 Views
Re: I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad lil lady - 27/01/2010 06:35:30 PM 1166 Views
Go ahead and pay for one.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM 1214 Views
beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 07:01:59 PM 1144 Views
at your Jeordam - 27/01/2010 07:03:39 PM 1062 Views
how does atheism take anything away? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM 1089 Views
Exactly Brian - 27/01/2010 07:29:49 PM 1022 Views
Smiles.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:38:25 PM 1089 Views
just because you believe in god LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 979 Views
losing, not loosing *NM* Brian - 27/01/2010 10:22:51 PM 613 Views
Re: Smiles.... lyringlas - 29/01/2010 09:03:48 PM 1044 Views
LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM 1082 Views
Who says? Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 1057 Views
You're not "open" to anything. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM 1188 Views
I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM 1116 Views
Personally speaking Brian - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM 1065 Views
Although off topic that's exactly how I see it too. *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 10:43:49 PM 605 Views
But notice your perspective Brian... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM 1208 Views
Your argument assumes in the existance of the Christian God. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:28:16 PM 1070 Views
Because we're His children beckstcw - 28/01/2010 01:08:20 AM 1123 Views
My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist? Brian - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM 993 Views
You have a very odd and self-serving notion of what "open" is. LiterateDog - 28/01/2010 12:12:06 AM 4413 Views
Tolerance much? snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM 1181 Views
I took care of that. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:33:18 PM 1124 Views
Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM 911 Views
Oh, well there are examples. Google those ads I mentioned beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 11:24:10 PM 919 Views
all athesim means is not believing in deities 9_9 LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:30:37 PM 940 Views
Your comment is rude and narrow minded. Regardless of what emotion you feel snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:20:11 PM 1049 Views
Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM 1064 Views
Well there is a difference between... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM 1241 Views
The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 1055 Views
Says the Protestant. Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 11:22:05 PM 1057 Views
What is the UCC? *NM* Tashmere - 29/01/2010 02:59:07 AM 622 Views
United Church of Christ Sareitha Sedai - 29/01/2010 02:24:11 PM 967 Views
I don't think it is the same thing random thoughts - 27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 970 Views
I wasn't making an argument- just that it'd be interesting beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 08:11:57 PM 912 Views
that I can agree with random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:27:30 PM 973 Views
Re: I think that its a fantastic idea... callandor1000 - 28/01/2010 03:36:11 AM 1057 Views
Followed by an add of all the babies that should have been aborted? *NM* Helene - 29/01/2010 05:53:43 PM 614 Views
Hey whatever they want to pay for PhoenixReborn - 27/01/2010 05:52:11 PM 1145 Views
Hahahaha... I couldn't care less, but this line cracked me up beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:19:37 PM 1116 Views
wow...I didn't even think of that... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:39:04 PM 1075 Views
Heh. *NM* Tashmere - 28/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 611 Views
I think they need to treat all sides the same random thoughts - 27/01/2010 06:49:47 PM 1077 Views
agreed *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 07:15:48 PM 610 Views
this. *NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:33:01 AM 539 Views
whether you agree with Tebow or not... damookster - 27/01/2010 06:51:58 PM 1117 Views
I don't think there'd be a problem if it wasn't the Super Bowl LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:35:18 PM 1075 Views
The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM 1208 Views
Bingo. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 865 Views
And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM 1046 Views
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:44:26 PM 898 Views
"the buggery agenda" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM 1097 Views
I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM 608 Views
You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM 1200 Views
this commercial is only a big deal to those Hobgoblin - 27/01/2010 07:59:27 PM 1117 Views
I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM 1133 Views
Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it. Brian - 27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM 946 Views
that's funny enough it'd pay for itself LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:13:31 PM 1049 Views
That would work also. The main thing is to pick someone who has committed crimes against humanity snoopcester - 28/01/2010 10:57:28 AM 863 Views
But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM 582 Views
I'm sure people could think of something *NM* LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:00:23 PM 476 Views
LMAO! that would be awesome *NM* Aisha - 28/01/2010 12:02:25 AM 614 Views
The funny thing is Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:28:22 PM 1278 Views
Oh no you di'in't! Tigr - 27/01/2010 08:54:47 PM 854 Views
I had a similar thought... TaskmasterJack - 27/01/2010 10:17:15 PM 1058 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:12:46 AM 544 Views
*brain explodes* Joel - 27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM 931 Views
are your sinuses clear now? *NM* random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM 565 Views
Oddly enough, they aren't. Joel - 27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM 1122 Views
thats what you get for living in the hill country random thoughts - 27/01/2010 09:10:09 PM 961 Views
Not my idea, and I'm working on it. Joel - 28/01/2010 12:36:17 AM 1032 Views
the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled. moondog - 28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM 952 Views
Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM* beckstcw - 28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM 563 Views
if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view moondog - 28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM 876 Views
I'm pretty strongly pro-choice and even I find that silly. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/01/2010 06:55:37 AM 625 Views
What kind of ad would they run in response? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:50:10 PM 1047 Views
more like.... moondog - 29/01/2010 03:20:24 AM 1197 Views
The problem with Pro-Choice is... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM 1036 Views
Not really a fair comment snoopcester - 28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM 1007 Views
Re: Not really a fair comment Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM 1116 Views
I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM 879 Views
I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM 1071 Views
That is unfair on me snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM 1114 Views
Sorry...wasn't trying to be unfair.... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:34:18 PM 1061 Views
Apology accepted snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:52:39 PM 880 Views
...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Floffe - 28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM 967 Views
Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM 1074 Views
An unfortunate choice of words.... Jeordam - 28/01/2010 07:00:18 PM 906 Views
I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information, Rebekah - 28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM 1003 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM 1025 Views
No. Rebekah - 29/01/2010 06:10:47 PM 1082 Views
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