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Personally speaking Brian Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM
But again...I am always eager to learn, but I do not incorporate things (new thoughts, concepts, ideals) which do not jive with my beliefs. Flip it around....why cannot you incorporate into your belief system that there is a God, and He does love you and desire a relationship with you? Why is this concept so difficult for you to grab ahold of?

As someone who considers himself an agnostic with strong atheist leanings...I find the idea that some all powerful all knowing being cares if I believe in him, talk to him, or worship him to be silly.

And as far as organized religion goes...I find that more often than not they foster hate and anger much more so than almost any other subject. The idea that any one religion or set of beliefs holds a monopoly on the truth and that they actually know what some higher power wants us to think is just absurd to me. How many sets of the "one" truth are there out there? Dozens, hundreds even. I'd like to think that in the off chance that I'm wrong, and that there is some higher power, that he really isn't going to give a crap if I go and kneel for an hour once a week and try talking to him. I'd like to think that if there is some after life that all that is really going to matter is if I've led a generally good life.

I think that religions have plenty of good lessons to teach people, but I also think that organized religion creates more rancor and violence than pretty much anything else in the world. For something that is supposed to teach morality and love, I find that to be a rather odd thing.
This message last edited by Brian on 27/01/2010 at 10:38:09 PM
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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial - 27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM 1922 Views
I think that its a fantastic idea... - 27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM 1129 Views
agreed... somewhat. - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM 1126 Views
See, that's the debate here... - 27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM 884 Views
depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells. - 27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 766 Views
You make baby Allah cry. *NM* - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 531 Views
was it the dog comparison? - 27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM 919 Views
Nah, Dog is God reversed, after all. - 27/01/2010 08:29:12 PM 880 Views
parasites! parasites i say!!! - 27/01/2010 08:37:53 PM 907 Views
yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions - 28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM 898 Views
Do those conditions include "I don't want a baby"? - 28/01/2010 11:52:24 PM 1122 Views
some scholars say yes, some say no - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM 1021 Views
Shall we be technical.... - 27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM 893 Views
And since when are you a trained eye? - 27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM 997 Views
A valid question - 27/01/2010 10:07:16 PM 870 Views
Okay then, that's fair enough - 27/01/2010 10:48:10 PM 890 Views
If there's a chance the mother might die... - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM 957 Views
Which is why I'm against elective abortion - 27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM 913 Views
Then we are in accord. - 27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM 919 Views
That works.... - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM 916 Views
And I think that is wonderful. - 27/01/2010 10:33:05 PM 1012 Views
I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad - 27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM 959 Views
Re: I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad - 27/01/2010 06:35:30 PM 990 Views
Go ahead and pay for one.... - 27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM 1026 Views
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at your - 27/01/2010 07:03:39 PM 903 Views
how does atheism take anything away? - 27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM 937 Views
Exactly - 27/01/2010 07:29:49 PM 918 Views
Smiles.... - 27/01/2010 09:38:25 PM 903 Views
just because you believe in god - 27/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 784 Views
losing, not loosing *NM* - 27/01/2010 10:22:51 PM 543 Views
Re: Smiles.... - 29/01/2010 09:03:48 PM 872 Views
LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement. - 27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM 910 Views
Who says? - 27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 900 Views
You're not "open" to anything. - 27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM 1038 Views
I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM 926 Views
Personally speaking - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM 970 Views
Although off topic that's exactly how I see it too. *NM* - 27/01/2010 10:43:49 PM 531 Views
But notice your perspective Brian... - 27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM 1033 Views
Your argument assumes in the existance of the Christian God. - 27/01/2010 11:28:16 PM 889 Views
Because we're His children - 28/01/2010 01:08:20 AM 923 Views
My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist? - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM 836 Views
You have a very odd and self-serving notion of what "open" is. - 28/01/2010 12:12:06 AM 4257 Views
Tolerance much? - 27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM 968 Views
I took care of that. - 27/01/2010 08:33:18 PM 942 Views
Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it. - 27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM 754 Views
Oh, well there are examples. Google those ads I mentioned - 27/01/2010 11:24:10 PM 749 Views
all athesim means is not believing in deities 9_9 - 27/01/2010 11:30:37 PM 760 Views
Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic - 27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM 860 Views
Well there is a difference between... - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM 1057 Views
The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not. - 27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 923 Views
Says the Protestant. - 27/01/2010 11:22:05 PM 912 Views
What is the UCC? *NM* - 29/01/2010 02:59:07 AM 553 Views
United Church of Christ - 29/01/2010 02:24:11 PM 802 Views
I don't think it is the same thing - 27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 773 Views
I wasn't making an argument- just that it'd be interesting - 27/01/2010 08:11:57 PM 752 Views
that I can agree with - 27/01/2010 08:27:30 PM 853 Views
Re: I think that its a fantastic idea... - 28/01/2010 03:36:11 AM 863 Views
Hey whatever they want to pay for - 27/01/2010 05:52:11 PM 969 Views
Hahahaha... I couldn't care less, but this line cracked me up - 27/01/2010 06:19:37 PM 946 Views
wow...I didn't even think of that... - 27/01/2010 06:39:04 PM 895 Views
Heh. *NM* - 28/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 543 Views
I think they need to treat all sides the same - 27/01/2010 06:49:47 PM 893 Views
agreed *NM* - 27/01/2010 07:15:48 PM 540 Views
this. *NM* - 28/01/2010 01:33:01 AM 481 Views
whether you agree with Tebow or not... - 27/01/2010 06:51:58 PM 919 Views
I don't think there'd be a problem if it wasn't the Super Bowl - 27/01/2010 07:35:18 PM 890 Views
The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS. - 27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM 1018 Views
Bingo. - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 763 Views
And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning. - 27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM 856 Views
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. - 27/01/2010 08:44:26 PM 754 Views
"the buggery agenda" - 27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM 892 Views
I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM* - 27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM 553 Views
You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness" - 27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM 1026 Views
this commercial is only a big deal to those - 27/01/2010 07:59:27 PM 959 Views
I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space - 27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM 1038 Views
Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it. - 27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM 770 Views
that's funny enough it'd pay for itself - 27/01/2010 08:13:31 PM 866 Views
But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM* - 27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM 514 Views
I'm sure people could think of something *NM* - 27/01/2010 09:00:23 PM 410 Views
LMAO! that would be awesome *NM* - 28/01/2010 12:02:25 AM 551 Views
The funny thing is - 27/01/2010 08:28:22 PM 1073 Views
Oh no you di'in't! - 27/01/2010 08:54:47 PM 684 Views
I had a similar thought... - 27/01/2010 10:17:15 PM 879 Views
*NM* - 28/01/2010 01:12:46 AM 492 Views
*brain explodes* - 27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM 791 Views
are your sinuses clear now? *NM* - 27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM 502 Views
Oddly enough, they aren't. - 27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM 935 Views
thats what you get for living in the hill country - 27/01/2010 09:10:09 PM 852 Views
Not my idea, and I'm working on it. - 28/01/2010 12:36:17 AM 886 Views
the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled. - 28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM 785 Views
Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM* - 28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM 490 Views
if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view - 28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM 780 Views
I'm pretty strongly pro-choice and even I find that silly. *NM* - 28/01/2010 06:55:37 AM 551 Views
What kind of ad would they run in response? - 28/01/2010 11:50:10 PM 918 Views
more like.... - 29/01/2010 03:20:24 AM 1026 Views
The problem with Pro-Choice is... - 28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM 894 Views
Not really a fair comment - 28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM 877 Views
Re: Not really a fair comment - 28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM 982 Views
I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend - 28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM 756 Views
I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted... - 28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM 909 Views
That is unfair on me - 28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM 904 Views
Sorry...wasn't trying to be unfair.... - 28/01/2010 04:34:18 PM 925 Views
Apology accepted - 28/01/2010 04:52:39 PM 738 Views
...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare - 28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM 770 Views
Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare - 28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM 883 Views
An unfortunate choice of words.... - 28/01/2010 07:00:18 PM 760 Views
I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information, - 28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM 818 Views
Ah, - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM 871 Views
No. - 29/01/2010 06:10:47 PM 958 Views

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