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We have been for some time. Joel Send a noteboard - 02/02/2010 03:31:10 AM
we are seriously getting the democracy that we as Americans deserve.

26 percent of Americans know that it takes 60 votes to overcome a Senate filibuster
32 percent know that Senate GOPers voted unanimously against the Democrats' health care plan

If you don't know those two pieces of information, then you REALLY don't know really what is happening in Washington right now and really have no right (in my mind) to vote in an election for a national race. We are seriously getting the democracy that Americans deserve.

For all the pomp and circumstance, the last two Democratic Presidents were elected largely (in Clintons case, solely) on the basis of promised healthcare reform, providing a clear mandate for it twice in as many decades. Both times the industry convinced the public they didn't really want what they voted for en masse. In less than six months. Well done, America.... :rolleyes:
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Who's to say YOU really know what's happening in Washington, though? - 02/02/2010 01:41:20 AM 812 Views
*thumbs up* *NM* - 02/02/2010 01:50:45 AM 330 Views
Or should I say... ? *NM* - 02/02/2010 01:51:03 AM 318 Views
I Don't watch tv - 02/02/2010 02:29:53 AM 769 Views
not to mention those who mistake knowledge for understanding - 02/02/2010 10:41:14 PM 624 Views
Even so. - 05/02/2010 05:45:54 AM 662 Views
Like the NYT? - 05/02/2010 02:12:36 PM 665 Views
I don't believe the Times has ever conceded bias. - 05/02/2010 06:03:02 PM 693 Views
and neither does Fox so I am not sure that matters - 05/02/2010 06:40:15 PM 768 Views
Note that I didn't mention Fox (or anyone, for that matter. ) - 05/02/2010 07:13:31 PM 660 Views
PBS is biased - 05/02/2010 07:21:14 PM 640 Views
You're entitled to believe that. - 05/02/2010 07:31:07 PM 792 Views
PBS has an obvious yet undeclared bias so does NPR - 09/02/2010 04:47:53 AM 616 Views
We have been for some time. - 02/02/2010 03:31:10 AM 697 Views
I don't think that's the case - 03/02/2010 02:59:50 PM 649 Views
Universal healthcare was the primary plank in Clintons '92 platform. - 04/02/2010 10:02:18 AM 638 Views
That does not mean his bare plurality was an endorsement of National Healthcare - 04/02/2010 02:09:32 PM 754 Views
I don't think he won by default, and that was his primary issue. - 05/02/2010 08:09:50 AM 805 Views
Re: I don't think he won by default, and that was his primary issue. - 05/02/2010 03:52:23 PM 757 Views
[insert witty subject line here] - 06/02/2010 02:15:21 AM 756 Views
Let me break this into multiple replies here - 06/02/2010 07:45:36 PM 750 Views
'K - 08/02/2010 01:22:12 PM 751 Views
Probably time to go into 'summary mode' - 08/02/2010 07:34:55 PM 773 Views
Again, we're back to "how would you prefer to do it?" - 09/02/2010 09:42:51 AM 770 Views
Any way that works, which currently probably is none - 09/02/2010 06:12:41 PM 723 Views
I think HDI is more accurate than nothing, though it certainly needs some fine tuning. - 10/02/2010 11:03:08 AM 813 Views
Sorry for the delay... - 12/02/2010 11:40:21 PM 857 Views
NP, life happens. - 15/02/2010 02:06:55 PM 872 Views
I'll play a bigger age card since it was my third election to vote in and he won because of Perot - 05/02/2010 05:57:04 PM 635 Views
Let's put it another way: Why did Dems nominate him instead of, say, Gephardt? - 06/02/2010 02:22:04 AM 730 Views
you don't get mandates from primaries - 08/02/2010 02:12:29 PM 631 Views
No, but end of the day more people wanted healthcare than didn't. - 08/02/2010 03:09:31 PM 639 Views
everyone want health care they just don't want congress runnig it - 09/02/2010 04:56:44 AM 676 Views
Whom do you prefer? - 09/02/2010 10:07:39 AM 715 Views
Sorry not a big fan of socialism I hear it big over in Europe though - 09/02/2010 02:23:55 PM 606 Views
I prefer Thomas Woods Jr's description of bipartisanship - 02/02/2010 02:49:06 AM 677 Views
If only someone had stood up on 8 December, 1941 and said, "hey, you're not supposed to do stuff!" - 02/02/2010 03:28:38 AM 837 Views
you're making a good job taking things out of context, Joel - 03/02/2010 12:47:57 PM 653 Views
Pearl Harbor would never have happened to a classically liberal nation - 05/02/2010 01:33:56 AM 659 Views
Maybe; Billy Mitchell might debate that were he alive. - 05/02/2010 05:34:54 AM 780 Views
Wow - that was a dumb statement even for you! - 05/02/2010 04:22:59 PM 822 Views
Some information and a question - 02/03/2010 05:49:20 AM 1225 Views
Or the democratic party has shifted so far to to the left they can't even get all of the dems - 02/02/2010 02:39:14 PM 616 Views
You didn't hear all the whining when Bush was in charge with a Republican Congress? - 02/02/2010 08:50:05 PM 639 Views
I there was plenty of whining going on - 02/02/2010 10:36:56 PM 582 Views
Is this you conceding that the GOP is being obstructionist? - 08/02/2010 01:43:04 PM 619 Views
I agree they are obstructing the libs from doing whatever they want - 08/02/2010 02:19:13 PM 521 Views
They've tried including Republicans in drafting bills. - 08/02/2010 03:08:17 PM 720 Views
tyring to pcik off one republican is not including republicans - 09/02/2010 05:03:44 AM 633 Views
Um... sorry, man.... - 10/02/2010 11:06:22 AM 861 Views

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