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We have been for some time. Joel Send a noteboard - 02/02/2010 03:31:10 AM
we are seriously getting the democracy that we as Americans deserve.

26 percent of Americans know that it takes 60 votes to overcome a Senate filibuster
32 percent know that Senate GOPers voted unanimously against the Democrats' health care plan

If you don't know those two pieces of information, then you REALLY don't know really what is happening in Washington right now and really have no right (in my mind) to vote in an election for a national race. We are seriously getting the democracy that Americans deserve.

For all the pomp and circumstance, the last two Democratic Presidents were elected largely (in Clintons case, solely) on the basis of promised healthcare reform, providing a clear mandate for it twice in as many decades. Both times the industry convinced the public they didn't really want what they voted for en masse. In less than six months. Well done, America.... :rolleyes:
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Who's to say YOU really know what's happening in Washington, though? - 02/02/2010 01:41:20 AM 680 Views
*thumbs up* *NM* - 02/02/2010 01:50:45 AM 249 Views
Or should I say... ? *NM* - 02/02/2010 01:51:03 AM 262 Views
I Don't watch tv - 02/02/2010 02:29:53 AM 639 Views
not to mention those who mistake knowledge for understanding - 02/02/2010 10:41:14 PM 490 Views
Even so. - 05/02/2010 05:45:54 AM 522 Views
Like the NYT? - 05/02/2010 02:12:36 PM 548 Views
I don't believe the Times has ever conceded bias. - 05/02/2010 06:03:02 PM 582 Views
and neither does Fox so I am not sure that matters - 05/02/2010 06:40:15 PM 612 Views
Note that I didn't mention Fox (or anyone, for that matter. ) - 05/02/2010 07:13:31 PM 542 Views
PBS is biased - 05/02/2010 07:21:14 PM 522 Views
You're entitled to believe that. - 05/02/2010 07:31:07 PM 662 Views
PBS has an obvious yet undeclared bias so does NPR - 09/02/2010 04:47:53 AM 479 Views
We have been for some time. - 02/02/2010 03:31:10 AM 554 Views
I don't think that's the case - 03/02/2010 02:59:50 PM 526 Views
Universal healthcare was the primary plank in Clintons '92 platform. - 04/02/2010 10:02:18 AM 514 Views
That does not mean his bare plurality was an endorsement of National Healthcare - 04/02/2010 02:09:32 PM 640 Views
I don't think he won by default, and that was his primary issue. - 05/02/2010 08:09:50 AM 657 Views
Re: I don't think he won by default, and that was his primary issue. - 05/02/2010 03:52:23 PM 605 Views
[insert witty subject line here] - 06/02/2010 02:15:21 AM 637 Views
Let me break this into multiple replies here - 06/02/2010 07:45:36 PM 618 Views
'K - 08/02/2010 01:22:12 PM 610 Views
Probably time to go into 'summary mode' - 08/02/2010 07:34:55 PM 640 Views
Again, we're back to "how would you prefer to do it?" - 09/02/2010 09:42:51 AM 662 Views
Any way that works, which currently probably is none - 09/02/2010 06:12:41 PM 597 Views
I think HDI is more accurate than nothing, though it certainly needs some fine tuning. - 10/02/2010 11:03:08 AM 659 Views
Sorry for the delay... - 12/02/2010 11:40:21 PM 744 Views
NP, life happens. - 15/02/2010 02:06:55 PM 745 Views
I'll play a bigger age card since it was my third election to vote in and he won because of Perot - 05/02/2010 05:57:04 PM 532 Views
Let's put it another way: Why did Dems nominate him instead of, say, Gephardt? - 06/02/2010 02:22:04 AM 600 Views
you don't get mandates from primaries - 08/02/2010 02:12:29 PM 501 Views
No, but end of the day more people wanted healthcare than didn't. - 08/02/2010 03:09:31 PM 514 Views
everyone want health care they just don't want congress runnig it - 09/02/2010 04:56:44 AM 550 Views
Whom do you prefer? - 09/02/2010 10:07:39 AM 583 Views
Sorry not a big fan of socialism I hear it big over in Europe though - 09/02/2010 02:23:55 PM 481 Views
I prefer Thomas Woods Jr's description of bipartisanship - 02/02/2010 02:49:06 AM 537 Views
If only someone had stood up on 8 December, 1941 and said, "hey, you're not supposed to do stuff!" - 02/02/2010 03:28:38 AM 683 Views
you're making a good job taking things out of context, Joel - 03/02/2010 12:47:57 PM 499 Views
Pearl Harbor would never have happened to a classically liberal nation - 05/02/2010 01:33:56 AM 526 Views
Maybe; Billy Mitchell might debate that were he alive. - 05/02/2010 05:34:54 AM 647 Views
Wow - that was a dumb statement even for you! - 05/02/2010 04:22:59 PM 703 Views
Some information and a question - 02/03/2010 05:49:20 AM 1062 Views
Or the democratic party has shifted so far to to the left they can't even get all of the dems - 02/02/2010 02:39:14 PM 502 Views
You didn't hear all the whining when Bush was in charge with a Republican Congress? - 02/02/2010 08:50:05 PM 517 Views
I there was plenty of whining going on - 02/02/2010 10:36:56 PM 446 Views
Is this you conceding that the GOP is being obstructionist? - 08/02/2010 01:43:04 PM 492 Views
I agree they are obstructing the libs from doing whatever they want - 08/02/2010 02:19:13 PM 413 Views
They've tried including Republicans in drafting bills. - 08/02/2010 03:08:17 PM 577 Views
tyring to pcik off one republican is not including republicans - 09/02/2010 05:03:44 AM 517 Views
Um... sorry, man.... - 10/02/2010 11:06:22 AM 689 Views

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