Ironically, Palin seems to agree this is different than using a teleprompter for a speech.
Joel Send a noteboard - 11/02/2010 09:05:19 AM
I agree it's a horrible analogy, and that was my point: Obamas use of a teleprompter has been raised several times as an excuse (which is a bit like saying it would be OK for the Allies to do medical experiments on captured Nazis because they did it, too) but it's apples and grapefruit. No Republican worth their salt should, IMHO, need a reminder they want to cut taxes.
Obama's use of a teleprompter doesn't relate to he rnotes, I agree, and for the record, teleprompter-in-chief jokes always give me a good laugh, especially him having one for the sixth grade class. But no, I don't view it as a sign of being unfit for office and never have, same as Bush's vomiting habits, Ford's ability to trip everywhere, or W's tedency to invent new words... good for a laugh, so was Palin's hand. Look Joel, you know she didn't have that on there as some sort of reminder what her position on taxes is, it was reminder to discuss her position. You know that, I know you know that, you're too smart not to, why do you keep insisting this is some sign of mass stupidity on her part? Like I said, I know Kepler's Laws, but I could easily forget to raise them when planned, say 25 minutes into a lecture, because I got side-tracked talking about Tycho's fraky false noses, that's a good example, it always went down well with the students and I like to raise matters of interest to spark interest and enthusiasm, but sometimes I'd go on a little long, needed a reminder to get back to the physics and not the amusing history stories around it. Why can't this be similiar?
Wikipedia quotes her thus from the past weekends festivities:
"This is about the people, and it's bigger than any one king or queen of a tea party, and it's a lot bigger than any charismatic guy with a teleprompter.[230] "
Teleprompters for speeches=bad, writing your most cherished values on your hand so you don't forget them=good. Just like it's indefensible for Rahm Emanuel (easily the most misnamed individual since Attila the Maternity Nurse) to call a group "retards" but perfectly fine for Limbaugh to call them that. Just like it's OK for gubernatorial candidate Palin to say she'd "not allow the spinmeisters to turn [the Bridge to Nowhere] into something that's so negative" AND for VP candidate Palin to claim she said, "thanks, but no thanks, on that bridge to nowhere. " Like Romney, the same valid criticism Bush leveled at John Kerry applies: If you don't like their position on an issue, wait five minutes and it'll change.

If you were a specialist in planetary orbits speaking to the Kepler Appreciation Society and needed help to remember to mention Keplers Laws I think we'd both be a little worried about you. That is THE difference between needing a teleprompter because you can't memorize every word of an entire speech and having to write three words on your hand so you talk about what you're there to talk about in the first place.
I think you'll be hard pressed to find many hardcore Palin supporters who don't also self-identify as "evangelical Christians" (a term I detest because it is, or should be, redundant; does that mean they're the only Christians who accept the Great Commission?) They're out there, but not the majority, and she knows it, too, hence the Pro Life, anti-sex ed appeals that became so embarrassing when her daughter got pregnant in HS and the father tried to become a centerfold. Of course, if one decides Palin, Obama or anyone can do no wrong it really doesn't matter what they do; we can lionize her for opposing corrupt government spending and ignore her pleas for federal pork as mayor of Wasilla, siccing the states executive branch on her ex-brother-in-law and billing the taxpayers for her daughters travel with her to a national governors meeting (and don't tell me she just couldn't find a sitter; Todd and the other kids stayed in Alaska. )
Raising the daughter issue?
No, raising the taxpayer funded daughters holiday issue. Calling that "the daughter issue" is like calling what happened with Abramoff and DeLay "the gambling issue. " The issue isn't what was done but the legality of how it was done, and it's hardly the only time Palin was accused of misappropriating public funds OR abusing the powers of her office for personal motives. Really, if you actually LOOK at her career as Governor and Mayor it seems obvious that the ONLY reason she's survived in politics so long is because Alaska is too far out of the public eye for most people to know what's going on up there.
I question her commitment to a core issue she has trouble remembering.
Trouble remembering to bring up, not trouble remembering. I'm pretty committed to being pro-lige and pro 2nd amendment, if I were chatting on stage while running for office, I might still want a little note to remind me to bring it up.
If you were speaking to the NRA and forgot to say you support the 2nd Amendment, maybe politics isn't your best career choice.
I dunno, you seemed to divine "Texas" easily enough. 

Well, I know you're from Texas and Hutchinson's from Texas, and I know Plain's from Alaska, it wasn't exactly hard to narrow it down

Fair enough. I mainly mentioned it because Palin was stumping for Perry this weekend in between tea parties and because however I feel about their positions on the issues Perry is such a facade conservative it's disgusting.
Tolls on roads built by bonds are an issue mainly because people opposed to high taxation NORMALLY view it as a "double tax" (as Sen. Hutchison calls the toll roads, just one reason she'll mop the floor with Perry. ) Heck, the guy tried to put a toll on I-35 until Kay informed him that the feds weren't really cool with that (so Perry tried to buy back Texas' interest in the road just to toll it; I have mental images of Ft. Hood tanks going through toll booths.... )
The highways are there in no small part for military vehicles to go down, but we don't take tracked vehicles on the road (we put them on a semi trailer) except in emergencies because they seriously rip up the pavement. I've driven or been driven in military vehicles (wheeled) on highways, through tollbooths, etc dozens, maybe hundreds of times.
I hear you on the double tax aspect, but we have a few toll roads in Ohio, and I regularly use the I-90 NY stretch from PA to buffalo. It's arguable if it's really a double tax because what you're really paying for is a long stretch of very well maintained road with little local traffic in the way, where normally you can speed like a bat out of hell without fear of getting a ticket. ANyway, toll roads aren't really a rep or dem issue, IMO, strictly state level, I don't really get involved with those much outside of my own stomping grounds.
Realistically, I'd expect the US Army to be waved through, but my point is the interstates were created to encourage and enable interstate travel (with specific emphasis on the military during emergencies) and slapping tolls on them inhibits that. To say nothing of the fact that the lions share of I-35 and the rest comes from that evil federal government, but Perry wasn't planning on providing them any toll revenue (in fact it pretty much all goes to Cintra, which is why they bought the bonds Perry induced people to vote for. ) Seriously, read a little about the Trans-Texas Corridor and you'll probably understand why it's another area where Perrys base thinks he sold them out--he basically did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Texas_Corridor
Note in particular the line at the end:
"With usual bond financing there is a 3:1 ratio between total fees collected and value of capital infrastructure built. With TTC-35 the ratio is in the order of magnitude of 13:1. So while TTC-35 commits to construct $8 billion in infrastructure Cintra-Zachry expects to collect $114 billion in toll revenues as shown in the preliminary plan. A report by the Texas State Auditor estimated the toll to be collected for TTC-35 to be $104 Billion or more, confirming the order of magnitude of tolls collected.[30]"
Who's it sound like the Governor's working for there? The "cut taxes, get government off my back" conservatives he claims, or someone else...?
It's actually unusual in a lot of ways though; I bet when you drop your change in the tub on I-90 it's not $1.85 to go 11 miles (the set fee and maximum length you can go on the tolled stretch of US-183 that basically goes past a mall; we needed that. ) You won't be speeding along at high speed on it either; there are on/off ramps about every half mile. In addition to the lights. Yes, stoplights for cross streets on a toll road. I'm not a big fan of toll roads generally, and one of the things I USED to like about living in the South is they were very rare, but I HAVE lived places where they're common, and this isn't how they work. Texas roads in particular used to be the envy of the nation because we use them, we NEED them, and until recently TXDoT kept them in good shape for that very reason. Now I have to through a 3-S curve in a half mile to reach the 10mph 90° turn where old 183 crosses (tolled)183A just to get to my house. And they want more. Not only have they done a sorry job designing the toll roads, not only are the private foreign firms who own them making orders of magnitude more than they invested off of TX taxpayers, but they've incidentally made the FREE roads hazardous to drive (which makes what the logical alternative?)
Why is someone so committed to less taxes and government she has to write it down or she won't mention it supporting this kind of stuff?
The biggest problem I, personally, have with the HPV vaccine is that 1) vaccine manufacturers can't seem to find a preservative that isn't a known carcinogen (or worse) but won't just manufacture preservative free vaccines with shorter shelf lives,
Preservatives in vaccines aren't just there to keep the stuff around longer, they also keep bacteria and microorganisms from growing in it, this is rather important. Besides, Thermosil is like 30-100 ppm of a vaccine, which is usually only around half a gram anyway, how much damage so you think a fifteen micrograms of a mercury is gonna do. The worst case, most conservative figure for mercury poisoning says you can take about that much a month entirely safely for your whole life, and realistically, for a healthy person, it's way higher.
2) the thing had only been on the market about six months and
On the market for 1 day is safe enough, since it's not allowe don the market until the FDA has checked it throughly. If you don't think it's safe for mass distribution, your beef's with the FDA, not the people advocating it's use. And frankly, they are overly cautious these days, long trials save lives... and kill them because they can't get access to it yet.
3) as with the toll roads owned by a private Spanish firm, one of Perrys senior aides just happened to take a position with the company benefiting about that time. However, the hue and cry from the religious right was exactly what you'd expect: Teenagers won't have sex if no one tells them about it, but if you give them the vaccine they'll sell themselves on street corners.
Really? That surprises me, I wouldn't have thought they'd care (By the way Joel, I am religious and right wing) I understand condoms or birth control being viewed that way, but I don't tihnk you need to have sex to get cervical cancer. Of course, tramping around certainly increases the risk. Anyway, handing someone a bike helmet may or may not be an encouragement to make them use their bicycle, or encouragement to do dumb stuff on it. I stay out of this stuff, because I really do agree with both sides. I know if I had kids I would tell them about all the options, and I would let them know they can by condoms at the store, and I would want my daughter to get a HPV shot. And I would not want some stranger doing it, because I'd expect to know my kids and know how to phrase things to get the safety point across not accidentally give them open license to do stuff they really want to do. Gotta trust the parents, if both of them are too nervous or indifferent to bring it up or arrange to have it brought up, then the kid probably has more issues than just safe sex originating from their home life.
I'm inclined to agree with you about trusting the parents on medical treatment (which is what we do with just about every other form) but see sex ed as larger educational and public health issue; a lot of parents AREN'T qualified to teach their kids about it, and in many cases those very kids are proof.
But I stated my objections because you asked what they were; that's a separate and much larger debate (poisoned Chinese toothpaste and human food grade grain has eroded my faith in the FDA. ) It may surprise you, but, yes, the bulk of the protests, or so it seemed from me (and I was among the group that opposed it for completely different reasons) came from people who insisted it would lead to promiscuity. It's the same logic that leads them to oppose teaching contraception: If you teach kids there's a safer way to have sex, they'll have sex, and the less they know about sex the less likely they are to engage in it. They regarded it as a betrayal, and the standard objections to compulsory vaccination, even the fact one of Perrys senior staffers had just become a Merck lobbyist, were almost an afterthought; the story had been going on for at least two or three days before I heard anyone mention it once (and that one I followed closely enough that I've actually downloaded copies of Perrys executive order. ) Conservatives, especially the religious right, got sold out by their own candidate. Literally. So again I ask: Why is their new national candidate supporting him over a legitimate conservative? I like virtually none of Kay positions, but I believe her sincerity. Perry, well, if I could make the highest bid I'm sure he'd be happy to work for me. Of course, since I'm paying is salary now he's supposed to do that already.
That conflict was to be expected; what was more noteworthy was that a supposedly far right Governor, heir to Bush and routinely stating his "family values" creds, totally betrayed his base on the issue. Again, Kay will mop the floor with Perry in the primary, and if you want an example of everything Palin claims to be, look there.
I'll be happy with either one, to be honest. Any GOP elected out of Texas is as likely to be a RINO as I am to sprout horns and wings. Even a texas democrat's like a moderate republican anywhere else.
A lot of Texas Republicans, most, I think (but we'll know soon) don't like Perry any better than I do. As another Texan once said, an honest politician is one who, when you buy him, he STAYS bought.
Huckabee didn't have any more liabilities as a member of the religious right than Palin does,
Yeah, but Palin didn't run for VP nomination, McCain selected her, and people don't worry about the VP like they do POTUS
Had McCain won he'd have been a year older than Reagan on their respective Inauguration Days; it worried the hell out of me and a lot of people. It reminds me of what they used to say about how Quayle fulfilled the goal of making America more religious, because the whole country prayed for Bushs health every night. And Palin is very obviously maneuvering for the Republican nomination; she just won't come out and say it because it's too soon and she hasn't locked up all of the base. Which I doubt she ever will because most savvy Republicans see her the same way a lot of savvy Dems saw Hillary: The one way to guarantee defeat.
and mitigated them somewhat because when he talks about "compassionate conservatism" his record shows it's more than talk. The same people on the left who would've screamed about Huckabee would scream about Palin in 2012, with the difference being Huckabee has repeatedly shown himself far more capable. But, hey, I'm on your side, man: I WANT the Republicans to nominate her in 2012.
Hey, you ain't on my side, I defend her from attack, but I want her gone. She'd be ruinous as a cadnidate, and yeah, she's no worse off than Hillary was coming into things, but reforming someone's image takes time and money, I like to start with genuine boyscouts who also have charisma, prefarbly with solid moderate-yet-conservative images.
Even so. Again I say, look to Kay, who has all of Palins fiscally and socially conservative credentials, a LOT more national and international experience and reflects those things in actually knowing her stuff and sounding like it. From a purely cosmetic standpoint she's always struck me as looking a little severe (she might be more comparable to Hillary than Palin) but no one will ever accuse of her being either a "feminazi" or a "soccer mom" (it's just happy coincidence Palin EMBRACED the latter term; I have nothing against stay at home moms, but even if Palin was one that's not the credential I look for in a President. ) I personally thought from the start the only reason Palin was catapulted onto the national stage was as a trial balloon to see if people who joke about Hillary wearing the pants because she's got the biggest penis would accept a genuine conservative who also happened to be a woman. It seems they will.
Bringing up Romney is just another good reason why; Romneycare is a disaster that Obama's inexplicably trying to take national, and he managed to do a complete 180 on abortion (proudly stating during his gubernatorial run that his wife donated to NARAL) and gun control between running for Governor of liberal MA and the time he sought the GOP Presidential nomination.
I like him. I think he could win too. But if I had to run anyone right now, it would be one of the current governors from the midwest. Our GOP governors tend to be fairly popular, slightly right of center, and very non-threatening. Perfect POTUS material.
The main problem with running Governors is that they frequently don't know how to work with Congress, particularly with Senators who had more power than them for the past 20 years. THAT'S where Obama got in trouble; normally that's the kind of thing electing a US Senator avoids, but not when he's only been there for four years. He hasn't had enough time to get dirt on people.

Again, I don't see how anyone can say they like Romney on the issues, because his stance on them varies by audience. We've had plenty of that and to spare already; one of the few good things about Bush was that when he really believed in something he stuck by it rather than running to wherever the last opinion poll said he should be (not that I know of any party whose leaders do that....

If we're lucky; people worried about Huckabee as a Baptist minister should be at least as worried about Romneys MUCH closer relationship with the LDS upper echelons.
Well, the people who fear the 'religious right' tend to have a bizarre blind spot on LDS and islam, don't seem to realize they are at least as social conservative as the default protestant. So I doubt it would be a big rallying cry for the left.
The difference is that people who self identify with the religious right share the same blind spot with the LDS, despite the fact the LDS has explicitly rejected the Nicene and Apostles Creed and its leadership is on record saying things like "As man is, God was; as God is, man may become. " I'm not going to delve into doctrinal validity for various reasons, but I will say that if you look at what Joseph Smith taught and the LDS leadership still affirms, it directly contradicts FUNDAMENTAL (if you'll pardon the term) Christian doctrines. Put more simply, while there are many good Christians in the Mormon church, some of whom I'm honored to count as good friends and privileged to call brother and sister, what Joseph Smith and the LDS LEADERSHIP teach is not Christianity. Teaching that Jesus was once a sinner is not Christianity; teaching that the Father had a father (who also had a father) is not Christianity, to name just two examples. And no one who's a congregation president and traces his pedigree to the Mormon Patriarchs can plead ignorance there.
Senator is an excellent move to POTUS; without exception every US President has come from either a Governors mansion or the US Senate.
No, direct senate-to-POTUS conversion is pretty rare, usually they go senate-VP-POTUS or Senate-cabinet-POTUS.
You did say, "direct" but I missed it, very sorry. Just so I don't look like a TOTAL idiot though:
I'm also pretty sure Eisenhower never was a senator or governor, Not too mention Washington or Adams
Victorious generals following major wars are something of a special case; it's hard to find a successful overall commander from a major US war who DIDN'T get elected President (Eisenhower toyed with the DEM nomination in '48, but changed his mind when Truman ran again, which tells you what that was about. ) Washington and Adams never had the chance to be Senators before reaching higher office.
Hoover was Cabinet, he never served in the sante or as a governor
True, but his administration is hardly a good argument Senate experience isn't helpful
Taft never governed a state, never a senator, he did serve as providsional governor of cuba for two weeks, not sure that counts. Actually I think Harrison was the last person to go from senate directly to POTUS besides Kennedy and Obama, and that doesn't really count because he had been out of the senate for two years. General Arthur was never a governor or senator, he went from being QM-general during the cvil war to VP. Garfield was a house rep, not a senator. Grant never served in the senate or as governor. Lincoln was house. Pierce, #14, was senate, he left 11 years before becoming president though, so what, Obama, Kennedy, Harrison, Pierce, four out of the last 30 direct senate to POTUS? Fillmore was house, Taylor was a general, never governed or was a senator. Polk was house, not senate. Then there's John Quincy Adams, straight from senate to POTUS.
So, without exception? Three out of 44 presidents went from senate directly to POTUS, virtuallly everyone else was either VP, governor, cabinet, house, or a general prior to being POTUS. Only 16 of the presidents have ever served in the senate at all. 12 have beens generals, only 12 haven't served in the military. Currently sitting Senators run a lot, but most don't get the nomination and few (3 out of the whole lot) get elected and none got re-elected - so I stand by my statement, senate is not a good route to POTUS
So, without exception? Three out of 44 presidents went from senate directly to POTUS, virtuallly everyone else was either VP, governor, cabinet, house, or a general prior to being POTUS. Only 16 of the presidents have ever served in the senate at all. 12 have beens generals, only 12 haven't served in the military. Currently sitting Senators run a lot, but most don't get the nomination and few (3 out of the whole lot) get elected and none got re-elected - so I stand by my statement, senate is not a good route to POTUS
Virtually everyone else was either VP, Governor or had just single handedly won a war. If we want to get really technical VP is as much a Senate as an executive office (and a lot of them are selected for just that reason) so VPs should count as direct moves (I was really thinking more about elections than order of succession though. ) I admit I thought Lincoln was a Senator when he one the White House, but if you're going to say Clintons election was an anomaly because he only got 43% Lincolns 39.8% is at least as much so. Taft, Arthur and Fillmore each came from the Vice Presidency, and only one of them by election; waiting for your boss to die is an effective path to power, but not reliable. Polk got in as a Governor, of course. Garfield, I learned thanks to you, is the only President elected while serving in the House.
The Senate may not be a good DIRECT route if we ignore the role the VP plays in the Senate, but unless you're Ike, Grant or Taylor nearly all of our Presidents got there based on either experience in the national legislature or as chief executive. Those are probably the two most important things a President can have. As a direct route, no, the Senate may not be a good choice, but the lessons learned there don't just vanish when you get a different job. Again, if Obama had spent more time making deals on legislation in the Senate perhaps he'd have a better idea how to do it as President.
There are pros and cons to both; Governors usually have more executive experience, but Senators have more national and international experience because they routinely deal with issues Governors never have to face (e.g. when Putin rears his head to say, "If you want to build a missile defense you have to back out of the ABM treaty first" or, y'know, DECLARING WAR!) Saying all the GOP candidates were more experienced than the Democratic ones works, provided you think Romney and Huckabee had more experience than Hillary Clinton and Mike Gravel (who spent 12 years in the Senate alone. ) Also, Biden had been in the Senate for nearly a decade before Dodd was elected to it. So, yes, except for Biden, Dodd, Clinton, Gravel and Richardson all the Republicans had more experience. Of course, the only Democratic primary contenders left then are Obama, Edwards and Kucinich.
Considering Gravel ended up running libertarian, not sure he counts, and no, I don't consider FLOTUS a qualifier, I don't discard experiences and duties from then, but it doens't really count. I also said 'parallel', i.e. 7 years doesn't trump 6 years in book, they are 'parallel'. And again, the context is that senate does not typically get translated as 'executive experience' by either the pundits or the voters. That leaves Gov. Richardson. 1, 1 dude. A single guy who has any experience running more than his personal staff or a campaign, you maybe get Vilsack too but I ususually feel someone ought to stay in till after the first primary to count. We had Huckabee, Romney, Guilianni, Gilmore, Tommy Thompson, and McCain, because I consider being a senior military officer pretty good executive experience when tacked on to thirty years in the senate. That's six, six people whose executive experience meets or exceeds any single one of the Dem nominees.
Gravel ran as a Libertarian because the Dems wouldn't nominate him (just the opposite of what perennial Lib candidate Ron Paul did) and since we're comparing the potential nominees of the two major parties, yes, he counts. Even if we ignore the role Hillary played in Bills Presidency and Governorship (does that mean I can stop listening to people whine about Hillarycare?

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Palin reads Cheat Notes.
08/02/2010 12:43:02 AM
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Is it really worse than reading answers on a teleprompter? sorry, I see no big deal here. *NM*
08/02/2010 01:02:49 AM
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yes yes it is. a teleprompter is subtle
08/02/2010 01:22:17 AM
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a teleprompter is not subtle
08/02/2010 02:25:46 PM
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staring openly and blatantly at your hand is? *NM*
08/02/2010 03:09:25 PM
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I think if anyone else had done the dame thing we wouldn't even had heard about
08/02/2010 06:13:44 PM
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Yes for what the notes were
08/02/2010 12:44:35 PM
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he is calling her content free while attacking her in such a content free manner?
08/02/2010 02:50:04 PM
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It's good the media still hounds her. I don't want her to be a candidate. *NM*
08/02/2010 01:20:21 AM
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This only obscures the rational reasons for duly decrying her political popularity. Moooooooo. *NM*
08/02/2010 03:19:45 AM
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I disagree, I think it underscores it.
08/02/2010 03:39:57 AM
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Or they might believe that a far left liberal
08/02/2010 04:16:51 AM
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Calling someone who needs a cheat sheet for their talking points stupid isn't an ad hominem, IMHO.
08/02/2010 12:13:36 PM
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soory but your wrong, again
08/02/2010 02:23:31 PM
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You shouldn't need reminders of your major themes after two years pushing them.
08/02/2010 02:55:22 PM
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I used to work in a call center and had a note to remind me to talk slower
08/02/2010 05:54:25 PM
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I don't hate her, and I think most liberals love her.
09/02/2010 10:45:25 AM
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way to play the pregant daughter card
09/02/2010 03:06:37 PM
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*shrugs* If you're going to suggest sex ed is harmful, unnecessary and promotes promiscuity...
10/02/2010 08:34:16 AM
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so if you don't support the liberal agenda your family is fair game for attack? nice to you admit it
10/02/2010 06:26:30 PM
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Um, no, if you're going to demand everyone follow your advice it better not be disastrous for you.
11/02/2010 05:29:01 AM
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Do you have anb example of when she demanded everyone follow her advice?
11/02/2010 05:33:17 AM
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Honestly, her sex ed position seems so muddled to me it's hard to say
11/02/2010 06:50:39 AM
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That's a bit silly
08/02/2010 08:40:25 PM
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I'm perfectly happy to discuss her positions; I just think Huckabee does a better job of it.
09/02/2010 10:26:54 AM
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Well, let's discuss some of these points
09/02/2010 07:13:33 PM
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Re: Well, let's discuss some of these points
10/02/2010 09:15:04 AM
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Re: Well, let's discuss some of these points
10/02/2010 06:49:51 PM
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Ironically, Palin seems to agree this is different than using a teleprompter for a speech.
11/02/2010 09:05:19 AM
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Again, two seperate things
11/02/2010 09:51:15 PM
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Agreed, but Palin and other Republicans, not I, drew the comparison.
15/02/2010 01:02:25 PM
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Just to get the obligatory Feinstein comment out of the way...
15/02/2010 11:43:42 PM
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Hadn't heard, actually.
19/02/2010 06:58:50 AM
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Re: Hadn't heard, actually.
19/02/2010 08:32:11 AM
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Ah.
23/02/2010 09:55:45 PM
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Re: Ah.
24/02/2010 01:32:34 AM
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Yeah, I think we've reached an understanding if not agreement.
01/03/2010 03:51:49 AM
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Re: Yeah, I think we've reached an understanding if not agreement.
01/03/2010 11:46:24 PM
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Re: Yeah, I think we've reached an understanding if not agreement.
05/03/2010 12:11:48 AM
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Random Title
05/03/2010 02:49:59 AM
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15/03/2010 09:17:53 PM
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I disagree. For all we know she has a learning disability. "Disability" does not equal "stupid".
09/02/2010 03:23:24 PM
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A possibility I hadn't considered, true, and sorry if I gave offense.
10/02/2010 08:25:52 AM
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oh yes, and the right never uses ad hominem
08/02/2010 03:56:42 PM
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I do see as the primary focus like I see from the left these days *NM*
08/02/2010 06:15:22 PM
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could you rephrase? you seem to be missing a noun or something in there. *NM*
08/02/2010 07:57:19 PM
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misisng a couple actually
08/02/2010 08:04:35 PM
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Touch typing is easier, at least to learn, if you don't try to read it at the same time, FYI.
10/02/2010 09:24:33 AM
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Really how many times can you rememeber a Bush press sec openly ridicule people in a press confrence
10/02/2010 06:28:57 PM
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Good point; all they used to do was have the VP say opponents helped terrorists.
11/02/2010 05:33:08 AM
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one is about actions ands the other is about personal attacks
05/03/2010 02:19:38 PM
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True, one is about what Palin DID and the other is just characterizing opposition as treason.
15/03/2010 04:39:45 AM
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This is petty and also rather ignorant
08/02/2010 03:59:40 AM
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so you're saying you're as dumb as sarah palin?
08/02/2010 10:55:00 AM
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In other news liberals can't get over someone being popular they don't agree with
08/02/2010 04:12:19 AM
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It's completely unprofessional
08/02/2010 08:27:47 AM
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yeah, she should have had them inscribed into her nail polish instead...
08/02/2010 10:55:43 AM
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why?
08/02/2010 02:29:44 PM
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You know that's a good question
08/02/2010 05:19:10 PM
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maybe you are just projecting
08/02/2010 06:15:57 PM
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well what is the association we have with notes on hands?
08/02/2010 07:58:41 PM
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or people on the far left are being grossly disingenuous
08/02/2010 08:18:06 PM
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dude, only posted it because it was funny
08/02/2010 08:43:55 PM
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so you like to point at people and laugh and can't understand why others would object
08/02/2010 11:24:37 PM
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Who cares? She's hot. *NM*
08/02/2010 03:06:58 PM
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Much ado about nothing. She was just making sure she didn't forget anything.
09/02/2010 02:00:56 AM
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I don't like the woman at all, but this is just silly. Who cares? *NM*
11/02/2010 10:11:17 PM
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