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Not to mention the fact that anything served as halal would have to be cooked separately Floffe Send a noteboard - 19/02/2010 10:55:06 PM
And, as has been said, the only difference is how they're killed. Because killing a cow ONE way is fine, but G-D HATES it if you kill it another way.

So yeah, while the whole situation is idiotic, having two sources of meat wouldn't really fix it.

And perhaps not even by the same person who deals with haraam. So yeah, that'd make it both more expensive as well as no-longer-so-fast food.
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French fast food chain goes halal Aisha - 19/02/2010 06:34:59 AM 1662 Views
that isn't unusual at all...I don't see the big deal LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 06:42:58 AM 633 Views
...how is it "discriminatory?" beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 06:49:24 AM 1103 Views
just as a note LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 01:06:30 PM 733 Views
(It wasn't a reference to Hinduism) beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 05:29:40 PM 711 Views
yah. that's hinduism LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 05:52:41 PM 810 Views
Makes sense beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 06:12:49 PM 744 Views
Not necessarily prejudiced or bigots Insolitus - 19/02/2010 12:03:17 PM 1048 Views
Not sure that works snoopcester - 19/02/2010 12:58:20 PM 793 Views
it's not discrimination in the slightest LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 01:13:03 PM 910 Views
That was my point snoopcester - 19/02/2010 01:22:55 PM 814 Views
sorry LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 01:29:11 PM 751 Views
No problem snoopcester - 19/02/2010 02:02:46 PM 760 Views
Re: Not sure that works Insolitus - 19/02/2010 01:44:27 PM 749 Views
Re: Not sure that works snoopcester - 19/02/2010 02:15:37 PM 904 Views
Re: Not sure that works Insolitus - 19/02/2010 02:33:30 PM 999 Views
dude. Every time anyone makes a choice, it's discrimination. LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 02:40:18 PM 816 Views
Re: dude. Every time anyone makes a choice, it's discrimination. Insolitus - 19/02/2010 03:22:14 PM 909 Views
yes, how dare a shop specialize LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 03:44:59 PM 726 Views
Indeed *NM* Insolitus - 19/02/2010 03:53:28 PM 395 Views
...I don't think that's a thing? beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 05:31:52 PM 767 Views
To the contrary Isaac - 19/02/2010 07:07:40 PM 801 Views
the restaurant does not have 100% halal food. LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 07:40:52 PM 756 Views
It was more of an answer to beetnemesis's hypothetical comment Isaac - 19/02/2010 08:18:58 PM 896 Views
I thought that they were still serving fish, at least? *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/02/2010 02:24:21 AM 451 Views
hahahaha Aisha - 20/02/2010 01:01:07 AM 856 Views
Re: hahahaha Isaac - 20/02/2010 04:10:31 AM 780 Views
Interesting beetnemesis - 20/02/2010 04:01:17 AM 783 Views
Keep in mind that France doesn't have remotely near as many fastfood restaurants as the US... Legolas - 19/02/2010 01:23:49 PM 981 Views
but what's wrong with eating halal meat? LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 01:33:17 PM 813 Views
Nothing per se, it's largely symbolic. I'm not sure how large the changes in the menu actually are. Legolas - 19/02/2010 01:42:54 PM 956 Views
Not a theologian, are we? Isaac - 19/02/2010 02:06:38 PM 902 Views
but is it the jews and observant christians complaining? LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 02:30:58 PM 750 Views
I've no clue Isaac - 19/02/2010 02:46:53 PM 928 Views
why would they be serving pork at a fast food anyways? LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 02:53:36 PM 733 Views
I checked the standard menu - other than one special burger with bacon, it's true there's no pork. *NM* Legolas - 19/02/2010 02:55:44 PM 385 Views
my point is how many fast food places have pork? LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 03:06:44 PM 787 Views
Well normally bacon is considered pork Isaac - 19/02/2010 03:07:45 PM 738 Views
Dude, it's France. They don't do English breakfasts. Legolas - 19/02/2010 03:19:48 PM 894 Views
American Breakfast, the english stole it from us Isaac - 19/02/2010 03:36:42 PM 831 Views
They put salt on their fries here, tons of it in fact... Legolas - 19/02/2010 03:48:06 PM 874 Views
Re: They put salt on their fries here, tons of it in fact... Isaac - 19/02/2010 04:16:22 PM 883 Views
Not a theologian, are we? snoopcester - 19/02/2010 02:31:17 PM 752 Views
from what we discussed in Meat Sciene LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 02:35:59 PM 818 Views
Oh? snoopcester - 19/02/2010 02:42:57 PM 825 Views
you could probably argue that it is less humane LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 02:54:32 PM 723 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? lyringlas - 19/02/2010 04:03:41 PM 979 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? Isaac - 19/02/2010 04:51:14 PM 873 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? lyringlas - 19/02/2010 04:54:26 PM 944 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? Isaac - 19/02/2010 05:03:28 PM 721 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? lyringlas - 19/02/2010 06:10:50 PM 739 Views
Upper tip Isaac - 19/02/2010 06:14:06 PM 689 Views
Re: but what's wrong with eating halal meat? Sareitha Sedai - 19/02/2010 02:33:14 PM 853 Views
+1 The Shrike - 19/02/2010 07:07:36 PM 745 Views
It is a MacDonalds not public service provider random thoughts - 19/02/2010 08:11:36 PM 757 Views
Oh, and then there's something else, though I don't know if it's a factor here... Legolas - 19/02/2010 02:41:46 PM 777 Views
Re: Keep in mind that France doesn't have remotely near as many fastfood restaurants as the US... snoopcester - 19/02/2010 01:57:15 PM 881 Views
That's what I was thinking too. Lupine - 19/02/2010 06:04:02 PM 906 Views
You think the reasons are as objective as that ? AgentOrange - 19/02/2010 02:24:36 PM 706 Views
I wouldn't exactly call the reasons I named "objective", myself. Legolas - 19/02/2010 02:37:56 PM 820 Views
Haha, yeah AgentOrange - 19/02/2010 07:24:00 PM 734 Views
Simply put : Many are afraid France is being taken over by the Muslims. AgentOrange - 19/02/2010 02:14:19 PM 853 Views
Re: Simply put : Many are afraid France is being taken over by the Muslims. lyringlas - 19/02/2010 05:02:18 PM 768 Views
Are you refering to something specific ? AgentOrange - 19/02/2010 07:18:38 PM 795 Views
Re: Are you refering to something specific ? lyringlas - 19/02/2010 07:21:35 PM 681 Views
In a sense that's what blocked the inclusion of Turkey into the EU. AgentOrange - 19/02/2010 07:26:51 PM 700 Views
Re: In a sense that's what blocked the inclusion of Turkey into the EU. lyringlas - 19/02/2010 07:30:33 PM 720 Views
The question there is what's pretext and what's actual reason. Legolas - 19/02/2010 08:53:44 PM 757 Views
Re: The question there is what's pretext and what's actual reason. lyringlas - 19/02/2010 08:55:53 PM 813 Views
Why are such politicians automatically "crazy" ßelals Girl - 19/02/2010 10:16:53 PM 860 Views
yep. *NM* AgentOrange - 20/02/2010 12:09:56 PM 368 Views
Really can't see why people would get so worked up random thoughts - 19/02/2010 03:57:37 PM 686 Views
No big deal.. Kel - 19/02/2010 04:16:08 PM 771 Views
i can't see why it matters that they did. i think it's great. *NM* temeraire - 19/02/2010 05:23:44 PM 432 Views
So, what is the difference between Halal Beef and normal beef? *NM* MightyYT - 19/02/2010 07:06:21 PM 369 Views
the way it is killed. *NM* jh - 19/02/2010 07:26:02 PM 449 Views
Call me an obvious bigot and prejudiced then. I think the way they did this is bad. The Shrike - 19/02/2010 07:10:40 PM 793 Views
Having two sources of meat would raise prices even more beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 07:56:21 PM 740 Views
Not to mention the fact that anything served as halal would have to be cooked separately Floffe - 19/02/2010 10:55:06 PM 703 Views
I wonder how teh Saudis or Iranians would react... Dragonsoul - 19/02/2010 08:51:11 PM 754 Views
most halal foods would always qualify as kosher, i believe. LadyLorraine - 20/02/2010 02:26:49 AM 694 Views
Nope. But it does work the other way around. *NM* AgentOrange - 20/02/2010 04:50:26 AM 371 Views
fair enough, then *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/02/2010 05:56:00 AM 522 Views
yupp, kosher counts as halal, halal is not kosher though *NM* Aisha - 20/02/2010 12:55:30 PM 473 Views
So let me get this straight... Dragonsoul - 20/02/2010 08:42:04 AM 886 Views
wow. first of all FRANCE is changing nothing LadyLorraine - 20/02/2010 06:28:27 PM 848 Views
I think you missed his point beckstcw - 20/02/2010 10:12:18 PM 749 Views
There are many answers one could give, but the most basic one is quite simple... Legolas - 20/02/2010 10:20:14 PM 867 Views
And yet having come of their own free will... Dragonsoul - 20/02/2010 11:11:51 PM 745 Views
Way to read half a post. I am impressed. jh - 21/02/2010 12:10:39 AM 742 Views
It always starts small. Dragonsoul - 21/02/2010 12:32:11 AM 716 Views
Awesome, you figured out their master plan!! LadyLorraine - 21/02/2010 02:06:27 AM 816 Views
Like I said... Dragonsoul - 21/02/2010 08:43:32 AM 769 Views
and really... in this case it's a private enterprise we're talking about AgentOrange - 21/02/2010 12:55:27 AM 715 Views
exactly. *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/02/2010 02:06:57 AM 480 Views
Oh I know, don't get me wrong. I was trying to clarify *NM* beckstcw - 21/02/2010 04:13:19 AM 398 Views
I didn't miss it, I just thought it wasn't worth noting. LadyLorraine - 21/02/2010 02:11:14 AM 984 Views
Re: wow. first of all FRANCE is changing nothing Dragonsoul - 20/02/2010 10:13:12 PM 924 Views
Yes, i'm sure there is no other restaurant in that whole area. LadyLorraine - 21/02/2010 02:04:29 AM 869 Views
that's not the point. Dragonsoul - 21/02/2010 08:46:14 AM 790 Views
dude. your 'THEY" did not do anything. LadyLorraine - 21/02/2010 03:01:48 PM 841 Views
So if your French every restaurant should only be allowed to serve what you want served? random thoughts - 22/02/2010 07:18:00 PM 738 Views
I don't think French society should be forced to consume Islamic food. Dragonsoul - 23/02/2010 01:31:03 AM 727 Views
No one is forcing anyone to do anything. LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 02:47:56 AM 784 Views
Sure they are. Dragonsoul - 23/02/2010 03:05:12 AM 768 Views
well they apparently still have 354 of that particular restaurant LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 03:20:07 AM 723 Views
Don't you get it? LiterateDog - 23/02/2010 03:51:09 AM 700 Views
Actually they're not ragheads. Dragonsoul - 23/02/2010 03:43:14 PM 715 Views
If you have a sarcasm meter, you might want to switch it on. *NM* LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 05:37:41 PM 350 Views
Indeed, 354 throughout the whole of France, which actually isn't that many. Dragonsoul - 23/02/2010 03:42:30 PM 740 Views
how many French people starved to death before McDonalds opened? random thoughts - 23/02/2010 04:30:32 PM 772 Views
Millions Isaac - 23/02/2010 04:41:23 PM 742 Views
Huh. Sareitha Sedai - 23/02/2010 06:10:17 PM 717 Views
They are not forced to do anything snoopcester - 23/02/2010 04:41:35 PM 703 Views
So Muslims should be forced to eat French food because the French are lazy to open more restaurants? random thoughts - 23/02/2010 04:43:13 AM 663 Views
well don't you see? LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 12:41:40 PM 775 Views
Re: well don't you see? ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 05:02:16 PM 705 Views
I agree with you. *NM* Rebekah - 23/02/2010 05:10:53 PM 354 Views
This is meant to be an edit... Rebekah - 23/02/2010 05:14:23 PM 774 Views
I agree, Bekah, but it's not like there's not a middle ground LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 05:25:30 PM 707 Views
It's the sheer numbers that are worrisome ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 06:25:17 PM 863 Views
That assumes a great deal LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 06:52:41 PM 833 Views
Re: That assumes a great deal ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 08:00:28 PM 860 Views
Very true. Test case: Lebanon AgentOrange - 24/02/2010 12:26:43 AM 715 Views
Really? snoopcester - 24/02/2010 10:02:18 AM 707 Views
What he's referring to... Legolas - 24/02/2010 10:20:22 AM 874 Views
Oh that, that I knew with the political system snoopcester - 24/02/2010 10:57:08 AM 719 Views
Re: This is meant to be an edit... ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 05:43:03 PM 926 Views
Well, biologically speaking, it is healthier for the gene pool. LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 06:55:11 PM 725 Views
"Propaganda"? Kind of exaggerating there... Legolas - 23/02/2010 07:48:39 PM 843 Views
How is it not propaganda? ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 08:31:12 PM 894 Views
I can certainly see your vitrol. Now I'm a bit confused though. LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 08:54:54 PM 749 Views
Re: I can certainly see your vitrol. Now I'm a bit confused though. ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 09:08:33 PM 1181 Views
your view point is idealistic, I think LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 09:24:08 PM 1013 Views
I guess one would have to see the documentary to really judge. Legolas - 23/02/2010 08:58:47 PM 847 Views
The language really isn't the problem in France. Legolas - 23/02/2010 08:15:52 PM 857 Views
I will conceed that point ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 08:53:26 PM 848 Views
Oh yeah, definitely, re: your point about Americans *NM* Legolas - 23/02/2010 09:00:20 PM 362 Views
Our differing opinion does not make us wrong. or that you are. LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 09:07:38 PM 891 Views
I'm not dismissing the problem entirely. LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 09:03:50 PM 854 Views
Well. I wasn't necessarily specifying France. *NM* Rebekah - 23/02/2010 09:48:44 PM 367 Views
But a lot of them were already in a part of France or had been born in a part of France snoopcester - 23/02/2010 05:30:24 PM 735 Views
*gasp* There are no French Muslims!! LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 05:36:38 PM 860 Views
Or! snoopcester - 24/02/2010 10:04:44 AM 946 Views
It's funny because it's true - Algeria was administratively a part of France, iirc. *NM* Legolas - 23/02/2010 07:51:17 PM 309 Views
It does make the situation more complicated snoopcester - 24/02/2010 10:30:28 AM 780 Views
Why should you have to completely change who you are? LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 05:35:51 PM 717 Views
Yes, of course ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 05:48:10 PM 710 Views
Yes, but the difference was I knew it was hyperbole LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 07:01:49 PM 699 Views
Re: Yes, but the difference was I knew it was hyperbole ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 07:38:54 PM 846 Views
So they should be treated as less because they're immigrants? LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 07:45:16 PM 769 Views
They're not Turks, they're mostly from France's old colonies. Legolas - 23/02/2010 08:10:25 PM 725 Views
The French didn't seem to feel the need to go native when they were in Middle Eastern countries random thoughts - 23/02/2010 05:55:28 PM 965 Views
What are you refering to? ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 06:00:45 PM 737 Views
Brush up on your history then random thoughts - 23/02/2010 06:25:53 PM 761 Views
Thank you ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 06:34:19 PM 704 Views
I would think that simply having McDonalds there is a greater threat to French cultrue random thoughts - 23/02/2010 06:52:34 PM 832 Views
This. well stated. *NM* LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 07:03:47 PM 345 Views
Why thank you *NM* random thoughts - 23/02/2010 11:49:22 PM 339 Views
They had Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and for a while Lebanon and Syria. Legolas - 23/02/2010 08:00:08 PM 917 Views
Many? Floffe - 23/02/2010 07:40:06 AM 772 Views
sorry I thought it was a restaurant random thoughts - 23/02/2010 04:41:39 AM 719 Views
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