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Businesses compensate employees beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 27/02/2010 07:08:12 AM
Tipping has its roots in the idea of "Oh, this guy doesn't get paid much, and I want him to/he already did an extra nice job for me, so I'll toss him a few extra bucks."


Minimum wage is the amount a business must pay to an employee. Tips are intended to be outside of the employer-employee relationship- it's something solely between the employee and the customer.

When an employer counts tips as pay, its effectively confiscating the tips, and then giving them back to the employee i.e. forcing itself into a relationship it has no part of.

This COULD be fine, except most restaurants and the like then use this excuse as "Oh! You're already being paid a bit over minimum wage because of all of these people who are giving you extra money because they know you don't make much. So, we're going to use that as an excuse to pay you less."


All employees should be paid at least minimum wage out of the pockets of their employer. Anything I tip is "extra" for the employee, and has no business going into the employer's hands.
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I don't tip. It's a cultural thing, it's not common to tip here. *NM* - 26/02/2010 07:05:47 AM 351 Views
It INFURIATES me that tips are reported and taxed - 26/02/2010 07:15:43 AM 648 Views
Oh, and re: Cultural Differences - 26/02/2010 07:18:36 AM 632 Views
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Yes, I know it's legal. That's why it's infuriating. - 28/02/2010 08:02:53 AM 523 Views
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Thats all I ask - 26/02/2010 11:37:37 PM 517 Views
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do your credit card slips print out a place for tips? - 27/02/2010 04:01:47 AM 636 Views
I used to deliver pizzas.... - 26/02/2010 08:16:29 AM 629 Views
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Sounds like an american problem to me. - 26/02/2010 08:42:09 AM 527 Views
I'm 23, married, and have a baby - 26/02/2010 11:43:26 PM 600 Views
I am sorry. I was not being specific enough. - 27/02/2010 12:12:32 AM 734 Views
i have a physics degree, and i delivered pizza to pay the bills when i was in school - 27/02/2010 03:41:40 AM 543 Views
At least you don't have an English Degree - 27/02/2010 03:43:27 AM 521 Views
my BS in physics is more worthless than your english degree - 27/02/2010 04:03:51 AM 621 Views
Haha, yeah it gives me a couple options - 27/02/2010 04:16:52 AM 674 Views
A master's doesn't really help, either. *NM* - 27/02/2010 10:24:36 AM 281 Views
meh, it's more opportunity than the bachelor's would be - 27/02/2010 10:27:40 AM 540 Views
Considerably - 27/02/2010 01:59:55 PM 541 Views
well... to be honest... - 27/02/2010 11:18:35 PM 553 Views
I'm really not sure what he focused on.... - 27/02/2010 11:32:15 PM 541 Views
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Definitely tip. - 26/02/2010 08:51:22 AM 729 Views
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lol *NM* - 26/02/2010 02:23:07 PM 246 Views
We are required to drop... - 26/02/2010 11:46:15 PM 588 Views
Required to drop.....but realistically.... - 27/02/2010 12:16:18 AM 653 Views
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then good for you - 27/02/2010 02:38:51 AM 507 Views
A tip? Never run with scissors. - 26/02/2010 02:18:47 PM 539 Views
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Why ? Because they are workers. - 27/02/2010 10:51:15 PM 519 Views
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people who hate to tip should stay home and not order in.... - 26/02/2010 02:39:54 PM 509 Views
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I used to deliver pizza. - 26/02/2010 04:15:22 PM 627 Views
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always tip. *NM* - 26/02/2010 05:20:08 PM 388 Views
Most often in the UK, almost never in NZ. - 26/02/2010 05:32:33 PM 656 Views
Oh yes - 27/02/2010 03:53:59 PM 565 Views
Have you considered a wider base? - 28/02/2010 02:07:23 AM 545 Views
Yes! - 26/02/2010 07:05:26 PM 525 Views
i've been in your place before - 27/02/2010 03:59:59 AM 624 Views
In Israel tipping is almost mandatory - 27/02/2010 03:49:32 PM 711 Views

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