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Hmmph. Inappropriate action on the part of the judge who allowed them to stay. SilverWarder Send a noteboard - 03/03/2010 06:22:08 PM
Sets a very bad precedent.

Think on this. This means that ANY person who is a part of any culture or country anywhere which has a more restrictive law on ANYTHING than the US can now apply for political asylum?

Look long enough and hard enough that applies to virtually everyone in every country in the world. They should all be allowed asylum, bypassing the normal immigration process? I think not.

I don't have any particular problem with them immigrating or being accepted as immigrants. That's fine. Granting them aslyum is too much. Are we going to start granting asylum to Brits who want to own guns? After all, the right to keep and bear arms is inscribed right in the Constitution - the right to homeschool is not. That's clearly a 'more important' right. By precedent anyone who wanted to own a firearm in Britain could then apply for asylum? That's nutsy.

As to homeschooling, provided that there are tests to show ability to understand the basic concepts and precepts of society, then homeschooling is fine. However, if there is curriculum that is part of the school system which is required, then it must also be required of homeschoolers. Yes that would include such basic social curriculum as history, geography, culture etc. and where it is required Sex ed as well (it should be required everywhere - the basics of biology and reproduction should be known to everyone as that's just biology).

So, fine on them being in the US (I'd be fine with them being here in Canada too) but a big thumbs down on the judge for allowing it to be an asylum issue. Their safety wasn't at risk, therefore, no asylum.
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Homeschooling: German Family Gets Political Asylum in U.S. - 02/03/2010 10:30:01 PM 1642 Views
Looks like a win-win situation to me. - 02/03/2010 11:01:22 PM 893 Views
Exactly - 03/03/2010 08:54:10 AM 845 Views
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Germany does have a history of getting rid of people it doesn't like *NM* - 03/03/2010 02:08:37 PM 532 Views
Yawn. At least beckstcw was joking when he invoked Godwin's law below. I hope. *NM* - 03/03/2010 02:10:18 PM 448 Views
That is a load of crap - 03/03/2010 02:53:02 PM 535 Views
uhm, how would Germany be offending the US? - 03/03/2010 02:56:52 PM 504 Views
I meant in general not in this specfic case - 03/03/2010 02:59:01 PM 441 Views
ahh mk *NM* - 03/03/2010 03:09:39 PM 486 Views
Um. - 03/03/2010 02:57:53 PM 379 Views
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You were the one who said good riddance - 03/03/2010 03:43:24 PM 392 Views
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exactly. - 03/03/2010 03:56:11 PM 501 Views
Yes, because I won't miss them much. - 03/03/2010 03:55:29 PM 584 Views
well said - 03/03/2010 06:34:18 PM 586 Views
I think it's outrageous they'd fine people for that - 02/03/2010 11:07:57 PM 913 Views
Re: Homeschooling: German Family Gets Political Asylum in U.S. - 03/03/2010 01:09:23 AM 1039 Views
The socialization thing is mostly garbage - 03/03/2010 02:32:19 AM 899 Views
Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 02:41:14 AM 699 Views
Re: Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 03:12:48 AM 672 Views
Re: Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 03:34:33 AM 931 Views
Re: Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 04:34:30 AM 916 Views
*shrugs* I said it was anecdotal. I have no hard figures, only experiences. - 03/03/2010 03:28:29 AM 673 Views
The operative word IS mostly - 03/03/2010 04:33:20 AM 871 Views
'Mostly' is all that matters - 03/03/2010 05:46:01 AM 902 Views
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Yes, but you don't need to be taught to do it - 03/03/2010 06:47:06 AM 833 Views
cats aren't pack or herd animals - 03/03/2010 06:53:02 AM 835 Views
Something of an inside joke, sorry - 03/03/2010 07:41:50 AM 850 Views
I'm a homeschooling parent. - 03/03/2010 07:09:03 PM 850 Views
LOL, we seem well represented on this site - 03/03/2010 10:02:16 PM 957 Views
to jump on the "I was homeschooled and I have social skills" bandwagon... - 03/03/2010 06:27:05 AM 1262 Views
I think you may be missing some things - 03/03/2010 02:48:27 PM 955 Views
Re: I think you may be missing some things - 05/03/2010 12:16:37 AM 1043 Views
I was homeschooled through grade 12, and my mom has done pro bono legal work for HSLDA. - 03/03/2010 02:20:38 AM 830 Views
I agree that it can be a very good option for some families - 03/03/2010 04:42:21 AM 948 Views
Re: I agree that it can be a very good option for some families - 03/03/2010 05:16:17 AM 786 Views
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"done right" is not always the case - 03/03/2010 05:58:26 AM 652 Views
Re: "done right" is not always the case - 03/03/2010 06:14:43 AM 978 Views
Re: "done right" is not always the case - 03/03/2010 06:31:04 AM 890 Views
Well let's talk stats then. - 03/03/2010 06:55:14 AM 834 Views
please do not get me started on statistis. - 03/03/2010 07:11:19 AM 756 Views
Re: please do not get me started on statistis. - 03/03/2010 07:28:41 AM 809 Views
you missed my point. - 03/03/2010 01:10:26 PM 833 Views
You seem to be ignoring the matter of qualified teachers. - 03/03/2010 01:29:01 PM 792 Views
Your comments on public school educations have rather limited relevance to other countries, though. - 03/03/2010 09:53:30 AM 900 Views
+ ^ *NM* - 03/03/2010 01:11:04 PM 451 Views
While I support homeschooling, this is ridiculous. - 03/03/2010 04:48:40 AM 956 Views
Meh. - 03/03/2010 05:20:50 AM 884 Views
one year in a public school - 03/03/2010 05:32:13 AM 940 Views
Re: one year in a public school - 03/03/2010 05:58:48 AM 697 Views
No, I think i will nitpick. - 03/03/2010 06:11:44 AM 840 Views
This is getting off track and wasting time. - 03/03/2010 06:26:36 AM 869 Views
I'm not even certain it's 100% legal. - 03/03/2010 06:34:44 AM 642 Views
Yes, but we can't argue abuse of law. - 03/03/2010 06:51:23 AM 763 Views
I only used Mexicans because I'm from Arizona - 03/03/2010 07:04:29 AM 900 Views
I think I have the gist of it, - 03/03/2010 07:17:40 AM 776 Views
we haven't heard anything about their beliefs for me to think they're stupid. - 03/03/2010 02:54:25 PM 884 Views
According to the Süddeutsche Zeitung... - 03/03/2010 03:38:13 PM 788 Views
they don't have private christian schools in germany? - 03/03/2010 03:54:07 PM 748 Views
Not many, I dare say, but a few probably. *NM* - 03/03/2010 03:59:11 PM 473 Views
Say what? - 03/03/2010 09:38:40 AM 743 Views
Being able raise your kids by your beliefs is a frivolous matter? - 03/03/2010 03:21:23 PM 679 Views
Germany is not saying "you can't raise your kids by your beliefs" - 03/03/2010 03:31:01 PM 790 Views
It's not a recent law, and supposedly other German families have moved to France and the UK. - 03/03/2010 03:45:56 PM 879 Views
figured that. - 03/03/2010 03:58:57 PM 765 Views
I think that would fly in very face of political assylum - 03/03/2010 04:12:48 PM 838 Views
Yes, but they did not need political asylum. - 03/03/2010 04:28:16 PM 841 Views
how is that different then other political refuges we allow in? - 03/03/2010 04:55:14 PM 766 Views
I believe Legolas linked an article - 03/03/2010 04:57:09 PM 751 Views
I never saw the link - 03/03/2010 05:08:21 PM 656 Views
I'm not sure if they offered "formal" assurances or some such - 03/03/2010 05:21:54 PM 588 Views
Compared to not being able to feed your kids, yes, it is. - 03/03/2010 03:42:58 PM 671 Views
yes but we don't grant political assylum for being hungry - 03/03/2010 04:34:23 PM 752 Views
no we don't. - 03/03/2010 04:50:31 PM 619 Views
Do you have a better system? - 03/03/2010 05:05:42 PM 918 Views
Immigration processes could certainly use some reform - 03/03/2010 05:32:22 PM 717 Views
The system sucks, big government typically does not function well - 03/03/2010 05:48:25 PM 671 Views
we probably would all be better off... - 03/03/2010 07:27:28 PM 770 Views
good because Texas is taken - 03/03/2010 07:47:46 PM 797 Views
No, true, that was about the illegal immigrants. - 03/03/2010 09:53:18 PM 892 Views
Absolutely. - 03/03/2010 09:32:41 AM 858 Views
Doesn't matter why, but all parents should have the right to homeschool..... - 03/03/2010 04:48:57 AM 711 Views
there are far worse faults for a country to have *NM* - 03/03/2010 05:14:11 AM 452 Views
That whole thing is pretty silly - 03/03/2010 12:18:45 PM 952 Views
Re: socialising. - 03/03/2010 06:13:49 PM 891 Views
And then there are secular people like myself, who - 03/03/2010 06:44:13 PM 846 Views
I think I'd do that too, if I had the patience. - 03/03/2010 06:45:20 PM 711 Views
*agree* - 03/03/2010 07:41:56 PM 883 Views
That is the catagory I'm in. - 03/03/2010 07:46:12 PM 776 Views
Re: probably more likely - 04/03/2010 12:19:37 AM 899 Views
I am opposed to homeschooling but believe it should be a legal option. - 03/03/2010 02:32:34 PM 857 Views
I think you make a good point here - 03/03/2010 05:22:59 PM 872 Views
but...but...parents can't educate their children outside of school!! - 03/03/2010 05:40:30 PM 798 Views
I don't agree with them I just support their right to be wrong - 03/03/2010 06:04:11 PM 863 Views
The statistics are flawed, as I've noted above - 03/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 717 Views
Your views on this are not fact-driven - 03/03/2010 09:13:07 PM 898 Views
No, what you're saying is that my answer isn't driven by STATISTICS. - 03/03/2010 10:36:50 PM 834 Views
Granted, but there is no obvious source for bias - 03/03/2010 10:57:19 PM 766 Views
Again, I'm not saying it applies to everyone - 03/03/2010 11:51:17 PM 674 Views
Re: Again, I'm not saying it applies to everyone - 04/03/2010 12:16:29 AM 916 Views
You mean aside from the fact that you are already arguing about it? - 04/03/2010 12:14:02 AM 648 Views
Yes, I mentioned this in my reply to Tom, see below... - 04/03/2010 12:19:42 AM 790 Views
Fair enough - 04/03/2010 12:21:41 AM 706 Views
Re: Fair enough - 04/03/2010 12:37:06 AM 1136 Views
Re: Fair enough - 04/03/2010 09:39:38 AM 828 Views
Umm Massachusetts did have slavery in 1717 - 03/03/2010 02:55:25 PM 753 Views
Wow....so this got the board going. A question for everyone... - 03/03/2010 06:02:57 PM 937 Views
I think it is incumbent on the state to show that kids are being in some way harmed - 03/03/2010 06:07:13 PM 874 Views
Interesting - 03/03/2010 06:25:43 PM 966 Views
I never said there should be no limits on what parents should be able to do - 03/03/2010 06:38:53 PM 912 Views
What you said was: - 03/03/2010 06:51:26 PM 930 Views
I think it's safe to say teaching your kids to be little sociopaths qualifies as harm. - 03/03/2010 09:17:48 PM 707 Views
I think so too - 03/03/2010 10:46:41 PM 920 Views
Yes they do. Provided... - 03/03/2010 07:04:46 PM 780 Views
One of the reasons... - 03/03/2010 07:40:54 PM 869 Views
that is fair enough - 03/03/2010 07:51:31 PM 746 Views
Hmmph. Inappropriate action on the part of the judge who allowed them to stay. - 03/03/2010 06:22:08 PM 812 Views
I agree completely with this. *NM* - 03/03/2010 06:42:01 PM 515 Views
agree. *NM* - 03/03/2010 06:49:01 PM 333 Views
You just skip the part where they have to show they are being persecuted - 03/03/2010 06:54:20 PM 936 Views
"Persecution" can be a matter of opinion, though. - 03/03/2010 07:04:46 PM 905 Views
officers will track down kids ditching school here. - 03/03/2010 07:17:57 PM 949 Views
I'm not sure what they do in Canada - 03/03/2010 10:49:00 PM 923 Views
Agrees - 03/03/2010 06:54:59 PM 777 Views
New Cosmic Powers of the admins - 03/03/2010 06:52:57 PM 680 Views
It is the Power of the Ben™ *NM* - 03/03/2010 08:48:11 PM 470 Views
*walks in, looks around* - 03/03/2010 07:52:09 PM 886 Views
Re: *walks in, looks around* - 03/03/2010 09:25:46 PM 671 Views
What, no defending Germany today? *NM* - 03/03/2010 10:03:01 PM 474 Views
Even I need a day off *NM* - 04/03/2010 01:02:17 AM 465 Views
Re: *walks in, looks around* - 03/03/2010 10:33:24 PM 703 Views
Interesting - 03/03/2010 11:02:27 PM 881 Views
Am I recalling correctly that you know some German? - 03/03/2010 11:07:00 PM 839 Views
Sorry, nope. - 04/03/2010 09:14:49 PM 643 Views
Oh. Ah well. - 04/03/2010 09:23:11 PM 794 Views
One thing all of us homeschooled kids are missing is... - 04/03/2010 01:53:22 AM 765 Views

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