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I never said there should be no limits on what parents should be able to do random thoughts Send a noteboard - 03/03/2010 06:38:53 PM
I said that sate has to show harm. All the statistics point to the fact that home school children do above average in most meaningful measures. I don't think the same can be true raising your kids to white squirmiest. I didn't follow that case closely so I can't speak to the details but I would say the tattoos cross the line enough to warrant state involvement. I wouldn't support taking kids away from parents simply because the parents are racist. The gain from that kind of thought crime action doesn’t outweigh the risk. Besides once you start that where do you draw the line? Do you take kids from Irish parents if they like Italians?
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Homeschooling: German Family Gets Political Asylum in U.S. - 02/03/2010 10:30:01 PM 1664 Views
Looks like a win-win situation to me. - 02/03/2010 11:01:22 PM 915 Views
Exactly - 03/03/2010 08:54:10 AM 871 Views
yah...but...but.... - 03/03/2010 01:13:31 PM 794 Views
Germany does have a history of getting rid of people it doesn't like *NM* - 03/03/2010 02:08:37 PM 549 Views
Yawn. At least beckstcw was joking when he invoked Godwin's law below. I hope. *NM* - 03/03/2010 02:10:18 PM 458 Views
That is a load of crap - 03/03/2010 02:53:02 PM 548 Views
uhm, how would Germany be offending the US? - 03/03/2010 02:56:52 PM 515 Views
I meant in general not in this specfic case - 03/03/2010 02:59:01 PM 453 Views
ahh mk *NM* - 03/03/2010 03:09:39 PM 502 Views
Um. - 03/03/2010 02:57:53 PM 390 Views
But our religious beliefs and belief in allowing religious freedom is fair game? - 03/03/2010 03:09:48 PM 396 Views
Yes? - 03/03/2010 03:40:30 PM 372 Views
If you made fun of the Native Americans I would be offended - 03/03/2010 03:46:05 PM 628 Views
It's actually quite the opposite. - 03/03/2010 03:57:19 PM 600 Views
and I would say they trying to fix intolerance with more intolerance - 03/03/2010 04:13:49 PM 388 Views
That was probably the stupidest thing I ever saw you write - 03/03/2010 03:28:39 PM 556 Views
You were the one who said good riddance - 03/03/2010 03:43:24 PM 405 Views
It's the usual story of American ideology and European pragmatism. - 03/03/2010 03:52:51 PM 564 Views
exactly. - 03/03/2010 03:56:11 PM 519 Views
Yes, because I won't miss them much. - 03/03/2010 03:55:29 PM 597 Views
well said - 03/03/2010 06:34:18 PM 599 Views
I think it's outrageous they'd fine people for that - 02/03/2010 11:07:57 PM 935 Views
Re: Homeschooling: German Family Gets Political Asylum in U.S. - 03/03/2010 01:09:23 AM 1057 Views
The socialization thing is mostly garbage - 03/03/2010 02:32:19 AM 925 Views
Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 02:41:14 AM 721 Views
Re: Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 03:12:48 AM 702 Views
Re: Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 03:34:33 AM 956 Views
Re: Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 04:34:30 AM 945 Views
*shrugs* I said it was anecdotal. I have no hard figures, only experiences. - 03/03/2010 03:28:29 AM 700 Views
The operative word IS mostly - 03/03/2010 04:33:20 AM 904 Views
'Mostly' is all that matters - 03/03/2010 05:46:01 AM 924 Views
Uhm, socialization is incredibly important. - 03/03/2010 06:03:30 AM 907 Views
Yes, but you don't need to be taught to do it - 03/03/2010 06:47:06 AM 858 Views
cats aren't pack or herd animals - 03/03/2010 06:53:02 AM 863 Views
Something of an inside joke, sorry - 03/03/2010 07:41:50 AM 874 Views
I'm a homeschooling parent. - 03/03/2010 07:09:03 PM 873 Views
LOL, we seem well represented on this site - 03/03/2010 10:02:16 PM 977 Views
to jump on the "I was homeschooled and I have social skills" bandwagon... - 03/03/2010 06:27:05 AM 1290 Views
I think you may be missing some things - 03/03/2010 02:48:27 PM 976 Views
Re: I think you may be missing some things - 05/03/2010 12:16:37 AM 1065 Views
I was homeschooled through grade 12, and my mom has done pro bono legal work for HSLDA. - 03/03/2010 02:20:38 AM 855 Views
I agree that it can be a very good option for some families - 03/03/2010 04:42:21 AM 972 Views
Re: I agree that it can be a very good option for some families - 03/03/2010 05:16:17 AM 809 Views
It depends on the public school. - 03/03/2010 05:23:09 AM 851 Views
Re: It depends on the public school. - 03/03/2010 05:45:07 AM 865 Views
"done right" is not always the case - 03/03/2010 05:58:26 AM 675 Views
Re: "done right" is not always the case - 03/03/2010 06:14:43 AM 1006 Views
Re: "done right" is not always the case - 03/03/2010 06:31:04 AM 917 Views
Well let's talk stats then. - 03/03/2010 06:55:14 AM 867 Views
please do not get me started on statistis. - 03/03/2010 07:11:19 AM 781 Views
Re: please do not get me started on statistis. - 03/03/2010 07:28:41 AM 832 Views
you missed my point. - 03/03/2010 01:10:26 PM 855 Views
You seem to be ignoring the matter of qualified teachers. - 03/03/2010 01:29:01 PM 816 Views
Your comments on public school educations have rather limited relevance to other countries, though. - 03/03/2010 09:53:30 AM 925 Views
+ ^ *NM* - 03/03/2010 01:11:04 PM 465 Views
While I support homeschooling, this is ridiculous. - 03/03/2010 04:48:40 AM 996 Views
Meh. - 03/03/2010 05:20:50 AM 908 Views
one year in a public school - 03/03/2010 05:32:13 AM 969 Views
Re: one year in a public school - 03/03/2010 05:58:48 AM 719 Views
No, I think i will nitpick. - 03/03/2010 06:11:44 AM 861 Views
This is getting off track and wasting time. - 03/03/2010 06:26:36 AM 897 Views
I'm not even certain it's 100% legal. - 03/03/2010 06:34:44 AM 681 Views
Yes, but we can't argue abuse of law. - 03/03/2010 06:51:23 AM 794 Views
I only used Mexicans because I'm from Arizona - 03/03/2010 07:04:29 AM 921 Views
I think I have the gist of it, - 03/03/2010 07:17:40 AM 813 Views
we haven't heard anything about their beliefs for me to think they're stupid. - 03/03/2010 02:54:25 PM 906 Views
According to the Süddeutsche Zeitung... - 03/03/2010 03:38:13 PM 813 Views
they don't have private christian schools in germany? - 03/03/2010 03:54:07 PM 764 Views
Not many, I dare say, but a few probably. *NM* - 03/03/2010 03:59:11 PM 483 Views
Say what? - 03/03/2010 09:38:40 AM 770 Views
Being able raise your kids by your beliefs is a frivolous matter? - 03/03/2010 03:21:23 PM 706 Views
Germany is not saying "you can't raise your kids by your beliefs" - 03/03/2010 03:31:01 PM 814 Views
It's not a recent law, and supposedly other German families have moved to France and the UK. - 03/03/2010 03:45:56 PM 903 Views
figured that. - 03/03/2010 03:58:57 PM 795 Views
I think that would fly in very face of political assylum - 03/03/2010 04:12:48 PM 858 Views
Yes, but they did not need political asylum. - 03/03/2010 04:28:16 PM 862 Views
how is that different then other political refuges we allow in? - 03/03/2010 04:55:14 PM 790 Views
I believe Legolas linked an article - 03/03/2010 04:57:09 PM 774 Views
I never saw the link - 03/03/2010 05:08:21 PM 679 Views
I'm not sure if they offered "formal" assurances or some such - 03/03/2010 05:21:54 PM 609 Views
Compared to not being able to feed your kids, yes, it is. - 03/03/2010 03:42:58 PM 707 Views
yes but we don't grant political assylum for being hungry - 03/03/2010 04:34:23 PM 777 Views
no we don't. - 03/03/2010 04:50:31 PM 641 Views
Do you have a better system? - 03/03/2010 05:05:42 PM 937 Views
Immigration processes could certainly use some reform - 03/03/2010 05:32:22 PM 743 Views
The system sucks, big government typically does not function well - 03/03/2010 05:48:25 PM 694 Views
we probably would all be better off... - 03/03/2010 07:27:28 PM 793 Views
good because Texas is taken - 03/03/2010 07:47:46 PM 820 Views
No, true, that was about the illegal immigrants. - 03/03/2010 09:53:18 PM 912 Views
Absolutely. - 03/03/2010 09:32:41 AM 884 Views
Doesn't matter why, but all parents should have the right to homeschool..... - 03/03/2010 04:48:57 AM 742 Views
there are far worse faults for a country to have *NM* - 03/03/2010 05:14:11 AM 465 Views
That whole thing is pretty silly - 03/03/2010 12:18:45 PM 991 Views
Re: socialising. - 03/03/2010 06:13:49 PM 916 Views
And then there are secular people like myself, who - 03/03/2010 06:44:13 PM 873 Views
I think I'd do that too, if I had the patience. - 03/03/2010 06:45:20 PM 736 Views
*agree* - 03/03/2010 07:41:56 PM 909 Views
That is the catagory I'm in. - 03/03/2010 07:46:12 PM 796 Views
Re: probably more likely - 04/03/2010 12:19:37 AM 921 Views
I am opposed to homeschooling but believe it should be a legal option. - 03/03/2010 02:32:34 PM 882 Views
I think you make a good point here - 03/03/2010 05:22:59 PM 897 Views
but...but...parents can't educate their children outside of school!! - 03/03/2010 05:40:30 PM 822 Views
I don't agree with them I just support their right to be wrong - 03/03/2010 06:04:11 PM 886 Views
The statistics are flawed, as I've noted above - 03/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 739 Views
Your views on this are not fact-driven - 03/03/2010 09:13:07 PM 919 Views
No, what you're saying is that my answer isn't driven by STATISTICS. - 03/03/2010 10:36:50 PM 859 Views
Granted, but there is no obvious source for bias - 03/03/2010 10:57:19 PM 792 Views
Again, I'm not saying it applies to everyone - 03/03/2010 11:51:17 PM 700 Views
Re: Again, I'm not saying it applies to everyone - 04/03/2010 12:16:29 AM 942 Views
You mean aside from the fact that you are already arguing about it? - 04/03/2010 12:14:02 AM 670 Views
Yes, I mentioned this in my reply to Tom, see below... - 04/03/2010 12:19:42 AM 810 Views
Fair enough - 04/03/2010 12:21:41 AM 732 Views
Re: Fair enough - 04/03/2010 12:37:06 AM 1162 Views
Re: Fair enough - 04/03/2010 09:39:38 AM 851 Views
Umm Massachusetts did have slavery in 1717 - 03/03/2010 02:55:25 PM 779 Views
Wow....so this got the board going. A question for everyone... - 03/03/2010 06:02:57 PM 967 Views
I think it is incumbent on the state to show that kids are being in some way harmed - 03/03/2010 06:07:13 PM 906 Views
Interesting - 03/03/2010 06:25:43 PM 987 Views
I never said there should be no limits on what parents should be able to do - 03/03/2010 06:38:53 PM 938 Views
What you said was: - 03/03/2010 06:51:26 PM 955 Views
I think it's safe to say teaching your kids to be little sociopaths qualifies as harm. - 03/03/2010 09:17:48 PM 730 Views
I think so too - 03/03/2010 10:46:41 PM 940 Views
Yes they do. Provided... - 03/03/2010 07:04:46 PM 806 Views
One of the reasons... - 03/03/2010 07:40:54 PM 890 Views
that is fair enough - 03/03/2010 07:51:31 PM 770 Views
Hmmph. Inappropriate action on the part of the judge who allowed them to stay. - 03/03/2010 06:22:08 PM 834 Views
I agree completely with this. *NM* - 03/03/2010 06:42:01 PM 526 Views
agree. *NM* - 03/03/2010 06:49:01 PM 345 Views
You just skip the part where they have to show they are being persecuted - 03/03/2010 06:54:20 PM 960 Views
"Persecution" can be a matter of opinion, though. - 03/03/2010 07:04:46 PM 929 Views
officers will track down kids ditching school here. - 03/03/2010 07:17:57 PM 970 Views
I'm not sure what they do in Canada - 03/03/2010 10:49:00 PM 955 Views
Agrees - 03/03/2010 06:54:59 PM 804 Views
New Cosmic Powers of the admins - 03/03/2010 06:52:57 PM 706 Views
It is the Power of the Ben™ *NM* - 03/03/2010 08:48:11 PM 479 Views
*walks in, looks around* - 03/03/2010 07:52:09 PM 910 Views
Re: *walks in, looks around* - 03/03/2010 09:25:46 PM 695 Views
What, no defending Germany today? *NM* - 03/03/2010 10:03:01 PM 484 Views
Even I need a day off *NM* - 04/03/2010 01:02:17 AM 479 Views
Re: *walks in, looks around* - 03/03/2010 10:33:24 PM 730 Views
Interesting - 03/03/2010 11:02:27 PM 911 Views
Am I recalling correctly that you know some German? - 03/03/2010 11:07:00 PM 865 Views
Sorry, nope. - 04/03/2010 09:14:49 PM 670 Views
Oh. Ah well. - 04/03/2010 09:23:11 PM 814 Views
One thing all of us homeschooled kids are missing is... - 04/03/2010 01:53:22 AM 787 Views

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