The problem with "look how bad govt. programs are" is it ignores the "starve the beast" theory.
Joel Send a noteboard - 05/03/2010 05:51:50 PM
Oh my god, I'm a socialist! How could this happen! Someone talk me out of it, quickly!
Troubling development, but fear not, such forays into socialism are not unheard of. Forget for the moment how well it is or isn't working in other countries and think about how wonderful social security, medicare, medicaid, public education, welfare, etc have been handled by our gov't.
Remember how much of modern medicine relies on technological advancement, and consider where innovation tends to come from, and exactly how much incentive companies are going to have to do R&D when the price and profit for their efforts will probably be set by DC.
Hopefully that worked

As recently noted, Canada and other countries innovate just fine, but far be it from me to let that interfere with good rhetoric.

Anyway, my main point is it's a little disingenuous when government programs are hamstrung by a party that then cites the resulting poor performance as proof government programs don't work. It's like putting Kim Jong Il in charge of the IAEA and then pointing to North Korea as "proof" it doesn't work. If a system is designed to fail failure isn't a huge surprise, but it's sometimes more indicative of poor management than an inherently poor system. There are a lot of critics of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, but few among those receiving any of them, and even those few usually complain they don't get MORE government services. Fortunately we have things like private retirement investments and private healthcare for those who can afford the greater service they desire, but, once again, no one who CAN'T afford more is forced to accept nothing.
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Oh my god...I'm a socialist!
- 05/03/2010 02:46:17 PM
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Just remind yourself how good the government is with its other efforts
- 05/03/2010 03:00:26 PM
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And remember that some of the biggest health insurance companies are already "non-profits".
- 05/03/2010 03:18:45 PM
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The problem with "look how bad govt. programs are" is it ignores the "starve the beast" theory.
- 05/03/2010 05:51:50 PM
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You really think taking the money oput of the system won't affect innovation?
- 05/03/2010 10:09:20 PM
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those drugs would probably still get developed, and at about the same rate as before
- 06/03/2010 07:14:07 AM
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Re: those drugs would probably still get developed, and at about the same rate as before
- 06/03/2010 09:37:44 AM
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just like taking the profit out of insurance will make healthcare affordable?
- 06/03/2010 12:12:25 PM
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No, I don't, because expired patents would drive it if nothing else did.
- 15/03/2010 06:32:55 AM
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Don't worry it isn't like we have free market economics in health care right now
- 05/03/2010 03:19:39 PM
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Hold on a sec.
- 05/03/2010 05:58:00 PM
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That's not really a socialist policy.
- 05/03/2010 03:24:59 PM
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True. The European far-right isn't really far-right (or even right) in economic terms. *NM*
- 05/03/2010 11:46:15 PM
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you don't seem to understand socialism. visit wikipedia and check it out there. *NM*
- 05/03/2010 05:16:02 PM
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Making healthcare universally accessible is not socialist...
- 05/03/2010 05:29:16 PM
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It is universally accessible now
- 05/03/2010 05:43:52 PM
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Ah, like the Rolls Royce is universally acceptable.
- 05/03/2010 05:52:59 PM
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BS *NM*
- 05/03/2010 06:08:52 PM
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BSS
- 05/03/2010 06:28:15 PM
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Random Thoughts
- 05/03/2010 06:31:00 PM
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For profit isn't automatically BAD, just an unwise panacea for essential services.
- 05/03/2010 05:45:36 PM
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Government run isn't automatically BAD, just an unwise panacea for essential services.
- 05/03/2010 06:30:14 PM
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Universal healthcare is good...
- 05/03/2010 10:13:01 PM
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great I was really hoping we could hear from a moron and you seem to fit the bill
- 05/03/2010 11:39:15 PM
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I think he was joking RT - note the
at the end of the message
*NM*
- 06/03/2010 09:23:45 AM
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at the end of the message
*NM*
- 06/03/2010 09:23:45 AM
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How does "Don't worry, it will never happen in America either way" sound?
- 05/03/2010 11:49:23 PM
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