Sometimes I feel a very small minority on that. Which is acceptable, but not always pleasant. FWIW, after a few years with this community, I think my contributions as a whole were more positive when I took heat for excessive length as well as the time to say things carefully and with ample qualifiers. People may have teased me for length, but far fewer got mad, and those who did usually got mad because of what I said rather than what they thought I said, because it was a lot harder to misconstrue my statements.
Well, I was lurking a bit even in '02. I think I found the site either right before or after CoT came out, maybe WH. The theory post though, not the MBs, I might have posted a couple times, then I was largely silent till '07, I think I firs tposted after RJ died, over on the WoTMB, then over on the RPG board (you should join us sometime, fun game) and then finally over at the CMB, initially I didn't even know what it was and kept wondering whit on a wheel of time sight people kept talking politics, but I'm a politico, so it eventually sucked me in.
So in other words you were at wotmania far longer than I. I'm sorry you missed the CMB when it was still an awesome place. For all that CERTAIN PEOPLE think I get all my news from DailyKos (I think I've been there MAYBE a half dozen times in as many years) my main news outlet used to be the wotmania CMB, because I knew that ANY news story would show up there hours, sometimes days, before it appeared anywhere else, and the breadth, depth and civility of discussion would outstrip all or most other sources. I'm actually at something of a loss these days, because there are few other places I know to get timely news accounts that don't favor one perspective over others, when they don't just gloss over the issue in a blurb.
I've never had someone get on me for being lengthy either, though I've certainly had a few pokes and jokes over it. I've always just written until I felt my point was clear, it always seems weird to me that so many others don't.
Agreed, but it's common. So are wounded feelings to no purpose. Correlation isn't necessarily causation, but doesn't preclude it either.
I can blame them, because they had no reason to take what I said at anything but face value. Why ask permission to search if you're going to do it anyway? A token acknowledgment of the Fourth Amendment only works if saying, "no" stops the search; if the guy really felt he had probable cause he didn't need to ask permission. But no problem; I happen to be among those liberals (and there are millions of us) who know full well who paid dearly for our freedom to complain, and appreciate it more than I can express. Reminding some ass is a pretty small repayment.
Oh, I don't blame you for being ticked off, you should be, I just want to make clear that I think the cop was in the 'minor abuse' area like accepting free coffee, not the full blown bad cop zone. I know many liberals are entirely reasonable, I used to be one, kinda, maybe still am, it's that you seem to attract certain types of crazy, as opposed to types of crazy the right gets. Maybe it's because of the more left of center-US views more common to the net, but right-wing loons tend to be dismissed as trolls and leftie-loonies tend to be more vocal and unchallenged... I don't know. As you might guess, I'm a big believer in protecting our rights and remembering how we paid for them, but I do tend to have a mentality of 'If you're gonna burn the flag, please wrap yourself in it first'. Rights yes, right to approval, no. When someone says, 'Hey! I'm just expressing my free speech' I always want to point out to them 'That's fine, that's why we're not stoning you, we don't have to like you, we can spit when you walk by, we just can't spit on you, I'm just expressing my free speech when I call you spoiled little prick.'
That's pretty much it; I don't support flag burning, but I DO support the RIGHT to burn flags. Popular speech doesn't require protection. I'd like to class it as minor abuse, but we went from "I have a right to search your car without cause" to "I'm testing what's obviously a cigarette butt because you asserted your own rights" to "why are you shaking?" (I still honestly don't know unless it was the wind and me being in shorts, but if he'd made one more mistake I'd have gone to jail, rightly or not. )
Obviously, there's a big difference between politely refusing a search and acting like a snot to the cops, lotta people forget that, you obviously have not.
Thanks; I like to think so at least.
Maybe in OH (though that doesn't square with what I've heard of OH) but not in TX, and definitely not in Williamson County. Here the implication you're willing to sue for wrongful arrest and the like is more than offset by how mad the cop will be when he sees the ACLU sticker. And Williamson County Sheriffs (which this was) are notorious; one of my neighbors is a retired trucker who says a California friend still hauling will drive 100 miles out of his way to avoid coming through here.
I live in rural ohio, I know the local police, I know the police dogs name and age and the name of the new one who's getting ready to replace him. So obviously I'm not really in a position to express un-biased views on them. I've certainly heard a lot bad stories about cops, and obviously many have been true, my regrets if your area is like that.
Unfortunately it's often more who you know than even what you do.
The main thing with laws against concealed carry is that it will stop law abiding citizens from carrying concealed weapons, so that if you find one in the course of routine police work you already have a charge without needing to find an additional more serious one. It's not going to get anyone 20 years to life, and it shouldn't, but I think it's an effective stopgap. Again, that's coming from someone who thinks gunracks and hip holsters should be perfectly legal; then the only reason I can see for concealment is to say, "SURPRISE! You're dead. " That's not a culture I want to encourage legally or otherwise.
Well, when I think concealed, barring obvious major professional or personal safety cases, I tend to assume 'one on the hip for show, one on the ankle for backup. I wouldn't object to conceal laws if they specifically said 'a backup weapon can be concealed, like a knife or gun, so long as the person is clearly advertising they are armed, and not informing the police of it prior to a search is a felony'
I could deal with that, though I'm inclined to disqualify firearms as backups. Hard for me to say either way though; if you see someone's packing you already know he has lethal force at ready command, so how MUCH is less of an issue.
Oh, believe me, I hear ya; like I say, I favor allowing people to carry clearly visible weapons, anything short of a LAW, really.
Yes, I do tend to think there is a legit place to say 'this weapon can only be used for outright rebellion.', I do tend to feel there are legit caps to the level of ordinance someone can own, or at least carry around. Maybe owning a RPG is okay, taking it off your premises is not. Most problems from owning explosives and heavy ordinance can be taken care of without bans. 'Got kids? Show us a properly safe storage format or we're taking them for their safety, or you can hands us the RPG and C4' and 'your howitzer needs to undergo regular maintenance and inspection or represents a hazard, you want to show us some paperwork from a certified weapons tech?' Inconvenience tends to be easier than bans for enforcing things, that way you avoid people doing it as 'a matter of principle'... not that I can say I honestly object to laws on explosives and anti-tank weapons.
That does make more sense, though it still boils down to regulating possession, just not to the point of an outright ban (and I'm well aware of why the Second Amendment exists, what the armies at Lexington and Concord were doing when the revolution started, and why they were driven to that point. ) Regulation rather than prohibition is appealing on many levels.
The proposition is not reversible; anyone who'll murder won't be stopped by concealed carry bans, but many who'd illegally carry a concealed weapon would never think of murder. But believe it or not, as adversarial as my attitude toward law enforcement can be based on some insane experiences of my own and others (I'm pretty sure I almost got shot one night in Georgetown for having car trouble, and the best part was that once they knew I was just a distressed motorist they left for their cop shop two blocks away) I recognize the police axiom that the most dangerous thing they do is "routine" traffic stops, because they never know whether it's Farmer Brown back from the market or a couple bank robbers with a teller bound and gagged in the trunk. Forcing them to ask if you're carrying a legal but concealed gun just makes life more dangerous for everyone, and something about making an already nervous and armed man more nervous is unappealing. 

Oh yes, I don't blame the cops for being paranoid during traffic stops.
I'm not unsympathetic to law enforcement, and have the utmost respect for those who do their duty, frequently as much in defiance of their coworkers as anyone else. Maybe I've just had too many negative experiences, but it seems to me that, at least in many rural areas, good cops are either driven out or broken by a bad system.
I understand that, but I disagree with the whole setup for primaries. If we're going to have a two party system where nearly every major office will be filled by either a Democrat or Republican I think the citizens have as much right to vote for both party nominees to an office as for the officeholder in the general election. Why should I be barred from voting for my preferred Republican (or Democrat) Nominee for President just because I voted for the other? If I vote for the Dem nominee (or vice versa) and the other one wins, am I any less subject to his jurisdiction?
Well, IMHO, parties should simply have their own specific criteria for selecting a nominee, if the New Hitler Party wants to pick their candidate by reading tea leaves that's fine by me. It's just easier to tack on nominees to the normal ballot for parties which believe in democratic selection. I can imagine in Texas there are a lot places where your vote for a candidate is basically only 'GOP 1 or GOP 2' so that's different from an ethical standpoint. In a case where the primary really is just the election, there's more wiggle room, though I still don't really approve. I don't like the 'common masses' voting in primaries for candidates because you can't assume ignorant votes will cancel out, 'smith' might get a lot more uninformed votes that 'Hussein', and a dem who crosses the line to vote for a purple senate nominee probably votes for everyone else on the ballot too, really screwing the Husseins, Whites, and Ignoramitz's. Or you can have malice votes, your in a stronghold area where a candidate's a shoo-in, people cross over and try to nominate a Ron Paul instead of a Scott Brown.
TX does at least have open primaries, but at the core I think people should be able to vote in all primaries for the same reason I'm offended by comments on "Real America. " If any party seeks to represent the nation, or claims to, then the whole nation should have a say in its leadership, and we'd probably have less extremist nominees were that the case. The spectacle that, IMHO, doomed McCain by forcing him to shed his moderate image to win a primary with the base then try to shed a RIGHT WING image to win the general election is one very familiar to Democrats. For decades national candidates couldn't get nominated without appeals to most far left elements of the base, which then came back to haunt them during the general campaign. Letting everyone vote in every primary would go along way toward ending the factionalism Washington rightly rejected as harmful to the nation.
I live in TX; a few years ago I voted in my ONLY Republican primary to date for one simple reason: All the candidates to replace the disgusting Williamson County Sheriff (who was caught drunk and relieving himself by the side of the road only to be driven home by cops who recognized him, not once but twice) were Republicans, so the winner of the primary ran unopposed. If I wanted ANY say in my next Sheriff (and given how bad the one running for re-election was, I did) I had to vote in the primary, but when the State Democratic Party called up asking if I wanted to be a delegate to the State Convention, I had to say I couldn't because my voter registration card said I voted in the Republican Primary. I think people should be allowed to vote in all party primaries; it's more democratic, and removes the spoiler effect without disenfranchising anyone.
I know a lot of good people who work military or law enforcement who have gotten drunk and taken a whiz somewhere, but I catch your meaning. But, I really think every party should be able to set it's own rules for nomination, I mean if I setup a Demarchist Party, I'm being pretty hypocritical to have a primary, I should just be dumping the names of every member who can serve into a hat and picking. Having a voted primary after that would really just be for show and wasteful, and if someone get's ticked and runs anyway, people from other parties could come in and screw it up.
It was more the double standard than anything; I've been to Georgetown many times, and since I'm pretty sure their cops almost shot me for having car trouble one night, I'm equally sure they wouldn't have driven me home if they'd caught me drunk in public and urinating by the roadside (let alone do so twice. ) It's hardly surprising to me that Jimmy Fennell was welcome there after he left Giddings and his murdered ex behind him. But the main point is I don't think preferring Edwards to Obama in '08 (little did I know... ) makes my preference for McCain or Huckabee over Romney any less valid. Or vice versa. I think the voters should be able to pick all the candidates for an office rather than just one since they're subject to the eventual winner regardless of primary in which they choose to vote.
Show Me the Compromise, Jerry. Tort reform instead of healthcare reform isn't a compromise, it's a bait and switch; I'm well aware Republicans want comprehensive tort reform, but that's not the issue we're debating, not the one two Presidents got elected on, so maybe we should have that debate separately and on its own merits rather than in place of healthcare reform. Bringing up the New Deal doesn't help you much there; Republicans started "reforming" it as early as Taft-Hartley in '46 (that's before we consider the conservative SCOTUS rubber stamping the whole thing unconstitutional until FDR attempted an unconstitutional court packing scheme his own party rejected. ) By the time I was born, taking us back off the gold standard (revived by the New Deal) reduced minimum wage to nothing more than a spur to inflation. Deregulation and removing segregation of lenders, investment banks and insurance did the rest under Clinton and, rhetoric aside, that drove the high risk, high interest subprime housing mortgages far more than political pressure to lend to minorities (many of whom pay their mortgages just fine, thank you, and they didn't get all the bad loans either. ) Hell, Reagan even gave us a tax on Social Security benefits that were taken out as taxes in the first place. No, there wasn't "the better part of a century" of New Deal; there was about forty years, from 1933 until 1973. Contrast those years with the ones before and since and tell me how bad the New Deal was. Remember when the evil liberals were in charge and even our enemies respected us morally and strategically?
Sure, Tort Reform should be seperate, but the whole reason one does enormous bills is to make sure things go through that otherwise might not on their own. The GOP may talk the talk but not walk the walk on HC, but the dems do it for Tort, same thing. The GOP's offer to break this into manageable bits, all seperate, is hardly altruistic but it really is the right thing to do. Politically it's the best thing for the dems too, we're offering it because we're scared the whole thing will get rammed through and political suicide or not it would be very hard to get rid off, we'd have to take back sizeable majorities, because dems who voted no on the bill might vote no on a repeal, and we'd have to be able to override Obama, by then, it's in, people are using it, outrage is diminished, some people 'need it', so the whole start from scratch thing isn't a cynical ploy, it's genuine fear that this is a political win-win and lose-lose at the same time. We think we can snap the mega-majority even if the dems regain some favor, and that's all we want out of '10, a majority would be nice, but isn't the main goal, so getting it isn't worth some virtually indestructible new entitlement system.
Healthcare needs to be split into separate bills, but tort reform needs to be included because that's how massive bills enact things that can't stand on their own merit?

Well, Merck developed an entirely new vaccine and one of their competitors developed a competing one (which was never considered for use by Texas government) so that one's off the table here. As I've said elsewhere, as long as it doesn't become a moratorium, I think limiting grounds for suit is much superior to limiting damages. It prevents ANY damage for suits by people victim only to their own negligence, without preventing real victims and/or their survivors from full compensation when wronged. When I was a few years old State Farm sold my parents (and millions of others) a life insurance policy on me that promised a monthly annuity in retirement once it was fully paid when I turned 25. They subsequently changed that to a $5000 life insurance policy ONLY, and only if I kept paying every month for the rest of my life, even though my mom had already paid more than $5000. A LOT of people sued, were combined into a class action suit, and offered a few hundred dollars each out of the eventual settlement. Clearly, we need tort reform to restrict suits for breach of contract, though I remain fuzzy on what this has to do with healthcare.... 

Both sides have openly stated a willingness to regulate that sort of thing, which as you mention has already been ruled on, so starting from scratch to permit that seems a good idea. Laws and programs can usually stand on their own, certainly anything as huge as this bill needs to demonstrably be able to, you don't roll the dice on a 1/6th of the economy. BEsides just be an obvious and blunt political tactic, the GOP is basically saying 'if you're gonna do this anyway...'
The GOP is attempting to reframe a healthcare debate that goes back to the mid-forties as a tax debate, a tort reform debate, an entitlement debate, a socialism debate, ANYTHING but a healthcare debate. Hardly surprising; it's worked so well in the past. But if they want to address torts (which cover a great deal more than healthcare) they should address them as such, and that's really not what anything like a majority voted for in '08. The idea that medical torts are the primary driver in healthcare costs is specious and ignores the fact malpractice insurance rates need to be examined just as badly as healthcare insurance rates do.
Heh, I suppose so; that's actually not a bad counterexample of why "leave it up to mom and dad" isn't exactly a panacea, though it doesn't seem any lasting harm was done in your case.
I'm not unsympathetic to the critics position; I think it incumbent on parents to do at least as good a job teaching kids about sex as schools, or at least inform them as much as they're able, but even among we who are sympathetic there's a certain perplexity at people who decry welfare for single mothers of eight AND decry comprehensive sex ed. And make no mistake: I'm a veteran of that debate on wotmanias CMB, and used to taking fire from both sides for my position sex ed SHOULD be comprehensive, meaning kids are taught

Well, by now one would think there'd be some data showing if sex ed in school even worked, now, I don't care if they show my kids borderline porn in the process of explaining the plumbing, but I do want to know they are spending the time effectively, if they could otherwise be shoring up the weaknesses in 'Johnny Kantreed' and 'little Miss Spell', so I think some demographic data indicate a significant drop in areas that did teach versus didn't would be appropriate before the debate on parental rights is warranted. I'd want those regardless of which side I'm advocating.
Well, I can't cite a study, but I do recall a PBS program (Frontline, I think) a few years ago about a syphilis epidemic the HS kids of a Bible Belt town. SOMEONE wasn't getting all the facts there, and the faculty as well as the parents were shocked to their core when they learned the extent of what had happened. Such is the price of burying ones head in the sand.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/georgia/etc/press.html
People used to be a lot less black and white, more thoughtful and deliberate. There are always trolls, but "back in the day" as exhausting as it was (and I was unemployed then; I literally could and did spend double digit hours a day on the CMB) a single thread could generate DOZENS of discussions like this with many diverse, intelligent and reasonable people.
I'd like to have seen that, or maybe not, the site already takes up much of my time, I probably spend the better part of an hour on this site daily, maybe more, although a big chunk of that is on the RPG board. Well, except for prolonged bakc and forths like this, which I consider to be mental training like a crossword puzzle, realistically I just flip in every so often when doing other things and cut off quick replies, so I suppose it doesn't really eat into my time. I do remember when there were a lot more threads like the homeschooling one we just had, the last one I remember here going off like that was the Polanksi thread.
Yah.
It almost never descended into a shouting match, and those who looked for that didn't get much attention, for precisely that reason. That, and the seemingly inexhaustible and genuine caring between members were the two things that made me a wotmaniac. For a lot of reasons, I wish you could've been around for that, wish I'd gotten there years earlier; maybe RAFO will be similar some day, but never the same, and as of now it's not even close. Not that I don't enjoy the one on one with you, and you in particular, but it didn't used to be as hard to have a meaningful, informed, diverse and civil discussion. I've done mea culpas for my role in reducing that, but more and more I wonder how much of it was me affecting the site rather than the reverse.
Yes, I remember your posting something along those lines a while back, I've always assumed I was missing something over a lot of that business. Much of the commentary people make about 'the old days' or anything that happened in chat goes right over my head.I can't speak to chat except at the end, when it was home to the most lethal examples of what killed wotmania (somehow, in the midst of that the Love of my life wandered in and the rest is history. )
No, it wouldn't; technically I don't think capping judgments would violate the LETTER of the amendment (just the whole of the spirit) but such guidelines that still allowed juries to use their own discretion, while ensuring judges were there to prevent juries turned vigilante, is in the same vein as regulations, without outright bans, on firearms. It's a fine line; someone referenced permits for protests earlier, and IMHO that's turned into a legal expedient for repealing freedom of assembly in practice if not on paper. Don't get me started on "free speech areas" which on the UT campus is something completely opposite to what a former Austin resident made it in DC. 

Fine lines are fun to dance over, keeps a civilization from getting stagnant.

I don't mind regulating protests up to a point, but not to the point of forcing protests of a Texas policy to take place in Oklahoma. Violent protesters need to be removed, but that doesn't mean you should shut down the protests (particularly given the documented history of FBI agents provocateur with the GOAL of turning peaceful protests violent to justify arresting protesters. )
Then, once again, produce the alternative first, if only so there's not a vacuum where anything goes in between abolishing the old system and creating a new one. I'm dubious of the logic there anyway though; laws are written to say they supersede old ones all the time, and there's no reason a comprehensive reform package can't do that. Indeed, it's common. If you want a big rather than small reform, fine, but reform is more than "dump this, kill that, repeal this other. "
Agreed, you need replacements - unless it's just awful bad dumb, then kill is fine - but these would be easier if things were broken up more clearly, and my view on this is not situational, honestly I think the left will do better trying for some of their reforms if they do it more piecemeal. Right now I'd guess around 10% of the pop is against this bill just because they are scared by it's immensity, not most or even necessarily any of it's provisions.
That may be true, but I also think the right opposition is missing out on the fact, deliberately or not, that much of the overall opposition polled on the healthcare bill is from liberals like me who think the bill doesn't do ENOUGH. If a pollster called me up I'd unequivocally state emphatic opposition, but if you take away those of us who loathe a boondoggle subsidy of private insurance that ignores cost controls and provides no public option I doubt the opposition could crack 40%. Anyone expecting another Republican Revolution out of that will be disappointed; you can't expect people to keep electing Scott Browns just because Dems aren't liberal ENOUGH.
Somewhere in there I remember you mentioning marijuana, I must have trimmed that on accident, and I remembered I wanted to mention something on that, turns out it's been positively and strongly linked to schizophrenia now, total sidebar but I read about it yesterday, anyway as you might guess I'm fairly indifferent to it's legality or lack there of, but it raised the interesting libertarian point similar to smoking, 'do we have the right to control it because now we all foot the bill for it's consequences?' which I always find an interesting mental conundrum.
My best recollection is that marijuana has been found to show a causative link in a small segment of the population predisposed to schizophrenia; the real danger is there's no way to know whether you're part of that group until after the fact. I think the libertarian take would be similar to that on nicotine and other issues: Let whoever wants to do it, and if they get sick it's their problem.
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LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Palin reads Cheat Notes.
08/02/2010 12:43:02 AM
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Is it really worse than reading answers on a teleprompter? sorry, I see no big deal here. *NM*
08/02/2010 01:02:49 AM
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yes yes it is. a teleprompter is subtle
08/02/2010 01:22:17 AM
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a teleprompter is not subtle
08/02/2010 02:25:46 PM
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staring openly and blatantly at your hand is? *NM*
08/02/2010 03:09:25 PM
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I think if anyone else had done the dame thing we wouldn't even had heard about
08/02/2010 06:13:44 PM
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Yes for what the notes were
08/02/2010 12:44:35 PM
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he is calling her content free while attacking her in such a content free manner?
08/02/2010 02:50:04 PM
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It's good the media still hounds her. I don't want her to be a candidate. *NM*
08/02/2010 01:20:21 AM
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This only obscures the rational reasons for duly decrying her political popularity. Moooooooo. *NM*
08/02/2010 03:19:45 AM
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I disagree, I think it underscores it.
08/02/2010 03:39:57 AM
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Or they might believe that a far left liberal
08/02/2010 04:16:51 AM
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Calling someone who needs a cheat sheet for their talking points stupid isn't an ad hominem, IMHO.
08/02/2010 12:13:36 PM
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soory but your wrong, again
08/02/2010 02:23:31 PM
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You shouldn't need reminders of your major themes after two years pushing them.
08/02/2010 02:55:22 PM
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I used to work in a call center and had a note to remind me to talk slower
08/02/2010 05:54:25 PM
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I don't hate her, and I think most liberals love her.
09/02/2010 10:45:25 AM
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way to play the pregant daughter card
09/02/2010 03:06:37 PM
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*shrugs* If you're going to suggest sex ed is harmful, unnecessary and promotes promiscuity...
10/02/2010 08:34:16 AM
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so if you don't support the liberal agenda your family is fair game for attack? nice to you admit it
10/02/2010 06:26:30 PM
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Um, no, if you're going to demand everyone follow your advice it better not be disastrous for you.
11/02/2010 05:29:01 AM
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Do you have anb example of when she demanded everyone follow her advice?
11/02/2010 05:33:17 AM
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Honestly, her sex ed position seems so muddled to me it's hard to say
11/02/2010 06:50:39 AM
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That's a bit silly
08/02/2010 08:40:25 PM
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I'm perfectly happy to discuss her positions; I just think Huckabee does a better job of it.
09/02/2010 10:26:54 AM
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Well, let's discuss some of these points
09/02/2010 07:13:33 PM
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Re: Well, let's discuss some of these points
10/02/2010 09:15:04 AM
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Re: Well, let's discuss some of these points
10/02/2010 06:49:51 PM
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Ironically, Palin seems to agree this is different than using a teleprompter for a speech.
11/02/2010 09:05:19 AM
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Again, two seperate things
11/02/2010 09:51:15 PM
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Agreed, but Palin and other Republicans, not I, drew the comparison.
15/02/2010 01:02:25 PM
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Just to get the obligatory Feinstein comment out of the way...
15/02/2010 11:43:42 PM
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Hadn't heard, actually.
19/02/2010 06:58:50 AM
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Re: Hadn't heard, actually.
19/02/2010 08:32:11 AM
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Ah.
23/02/2010 09:55:45 PM
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Re: Ah.
24/02/2010 01:32:34 AM
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Yeah, I think we've reached an understanding if not agreement.
01/03/2010 03:51:49 AM
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Re: Yeah, I think we've reached an understanding if not agreement.
01/03/2010 11:46:24 PM
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Re: Yeah, I think we've reached an understanding if not agreement.
05/03/2010 12:11:48 AM
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Random Title
05/03/2010 02:49:59 AM
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15/03/2010 05:37:22 AM
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15/03/2010 09:17:53 PM
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I disagree. For all we know she has a learning disability. "Disability" does not equal "stupid".
09/02/2010 03:23:24 PM
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A possibility I hadn't considered, true, and sorry if I gave offense.
10/02/2010 08:25:52 AM
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oh yes, and the right never uses ad hominem
08/02/2010 03:56:42 PM
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I do see as the primary focus like I see from the left these days *NM*
08/02/2010 06:15:22 PM
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could you rephrase? you seem to be missing a noun or something in there. *NM*
08/02/2010 07:57:19 PM
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misisng a couple actually
08/02/2010 08:04:35 PM
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Touch typing is easier, at least to learn, if you don't try to read it at the same time, FYI.
10/02/2010 09:24:33 AM
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Really how many times can you rememeber a Bush press sec openly ridicule people in a press confrence
10/02/2010 06:28:57 PM
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Good point; all they used to do was have the VP say opponents helped terrorists.
11/02/2010 05:33:08 AM
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one is about actions ands the other is about personal attacks
05/03/2010 02:19:38 PM
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True, one is about what Palin DID and the other is just characterizing opposition as treason.
15/03/2010 04:39:45 AM
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This is petty and also rather ignorant
08/02/2010 03:59:40 AM
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so you're saying you're as dumb as sarah palin?
08/02/2010 10:55:00 AM
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In other news liberals can't get over someone being popular they don't agree with
08/02/2010 04:12:19 AM
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It's completely unprofessional
08/02/2010 08:27:47 AM
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yeah, she should have had them inscribed into her nail polish instead...
08/02/2010 10:55:43 AM
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why?
08/02/2010 02:29:44 PM
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You know that's a good question
08/02/2010 05:19:10 PM
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maybe you are just projecting
08/02/2010 06:15:57 PM
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well what is the association we have with notes on hands?
08/02/2010 07:58:41 PM
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or people on the far left are being grossly disingenuous
08/02/2010 08:18:06 PM
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dude, only posted it because it was funny
08/02/2010 08:43:55 PM
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so you like to point at people and laugh and can't understand why others would object
08/02/2010 11:24:37 PM
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Who cares? She's hot. *NM*
08/02/2010 03:06:58 PM
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Much ado about nothing. She was just making sure she didn't forget anything.
09/02/2010 02:00:56 AM
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I don't like the woman at all, but this is just silly. Who cares? *NM*
11/02/2010 10:11:17 PM
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