I won't take the debate (I simply don't have the time), but I will say this makes me happy for you. America is actually moving in the direction of what I (in my warped, Scandinavian brain, obviously) think of as a civilised country. I did not think that would ever happen.
They tell me Norway has no private health insurance, not because it's illegal, but because there's no market. Making it illegal for an American NOT to buy private health insurance is a far cry from universal healthcare. This doesn't provide care to anyone, it obligates them to provide it for themselves (per the traditional American bootstrap levitation. ) Families earning <$88k/year are eligible for government subsidies that may or may not cover the entire cost, but health insurance will still be private, and the rates will still be set by private insurance carriers.
That's a big problem, because the motive to healthcare reform for several decades has been that costs are rising at a double digit annual percentage (several times the rate elsewhere in the industrialized world) and because they've been doing so for so long existing costs are already exorbitant. Virtually nothing in this bill addresses its primary motivation. The only thing that comes close are insurance "exchanges" in each state, but all those do is (hopefully) remedy the common practice of state legislatures granting a given insurer a monopoly over the states residents. The OTHER bill the House passed, headed for a non-filibustered Senate vote in a few days, would require federal approval for large rate hikes, but apart from that there are no cost controls. None. Not one. But every adult in the country is still required to pay those costs. Again, to give an idea of how expensive that will be, the subsidies to families earning <$88k/year will cost taxpayers $900 BILLION. Another way to look at that is that the private insurers gorging on American illness just had $900 billion dropped in their laps by federal law. Plus whatever it costs people who don't have insurance now but also earn too much to qualify for a subsidy, and plus whatever it costs ABOVE the subsidy for those who do qualify.
Healthcare is rapidly reaching a point where it will consume Americas GDP, because everyone needs it and there's little to no government regulation to either guarantee minimal coverage or limit costs. That, not charity, is the real incentive to legislating reform. Unfortunately, this bill accomplishes next to nothing toward that goal, and may actually exacerbate the problem by ensuring over a trillion dollars in additional revenue for an already ravenous industry.
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No posts on the bill passing?
- 22/03/2010 08:22:27 AM
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Meh
- 22/03/2010 09:07:27 AM
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Re: Meh
- 22/03/2010 01:53:43 PM
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I know what you mean. I love hearing that the "majority" are against this.
- 22/03/2010 01:57:15 PM
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surveys are crap anyways.
- 22/03/2010 01:59:39 PM
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That's ignorance speaking.
- 22/03/2010 02:02:46 PM
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well yah. Sorry, I wasn't meaning to say surveys as a whole are nonsense
- 22/03/2010 02:09:42 PM
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A question?
- 23/03/2010 01:11:07 AM
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I accept that there are situations where leaders must go against popular opinion
- 23/03/2010 02:53:00 AM
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on the other hand *edited stupid spelling error*
- 23/03/2010 03:09:47 AM
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Ahahahahahahahaha
- 23/03/2010 12:57:17 PM
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- 23/03/2010 12:57:17 PM
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why?
*NM*
- 23/03/2010 03:37:00 PM
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*NM*
- 23/03/2010 03:37:00 PM
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Because "populous" is not a noun in English. *NM*
- 23/03/2010 03:42:16 PM
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This.
- 23/03/2010 03:46:25 PM
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It's not as simple as "doing what the majority opposes is bad government. "
- 23/03/2010 06:42:04 AM
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I think with the saturation coverage it has been getting people are just worn out *NM*
- 22/03/2010 01:27:59 PM
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Re: No posts on the bill passing?
- 22/03/2010 01:39:14 PM
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I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist.
- 22/03/2010 01:43:07 PM
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Re: I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist.
- 22/03/2010 02:01:07 PM
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I liked former Republican Senate majority leader Bill Frist's comments.
- 22/03/2010 02:06:41 PM
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Re: I liked former Republican Senate majority leader Bill Frist's comments.
- 22/03/2010 02:12:16 PM
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I am worried. The official reports show that it will actually erase some debt. But . . .
- 22/03/2010 01:39:26 PM
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I think reform had to start now.
- 22/03/2010 02:27:11 PM
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That's a good column.
- 22/03/2010 02:44:56 PM
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Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill.
- 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM
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I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill
- 22/03/2010 03:20:54 PM
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Re: I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill
- 22/03/2010 03:33:31 PM
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Let's be realistic here at least....
- 22/03/2010 04:16:23 PM
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You must have an interesting definition of "most"
- 22/03/2010 05:43:38 PM
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My definition of most is obviously quite defective.
- 22/03/2010 08:05:22 PM
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- 22/03/2010 08:05:22 PM
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As long as you define "most" as "some time" you're just fine with it as it stands
*NM*
- 22/03/2010 08:15:03 PM
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*NM*
- 22/03/2010 08:15:03 PM
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I'd say "most" people would agree with my definition of "most" in my original post....
- 23/03/2010 05:16:59 AM
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I hope your house is built on fimrer foundations then your reasoning
- 22/03/2010 04:25:49 PM
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You should worry about cost control (AKA the only real reason for healthcare reform to begin. )
- 23/03/2010 07:02:24 AM
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bingo
- 24/03/2010 03:45:48 AM
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Next question: WTF do we do about it?
- 24/03/2010 04:00:39 AM
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It is a good start
- 22/03/2010 03:01:08 PM
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You should delve the debate before getting excited.
- 23/03/2010 07:22:36 AM
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I really like what GRR Martin wrote in his blog.
- 23/03/2010 09:55:11 AM
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I would say it is rather weak point
- 23/03/2010 01:12:43 PM
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You realize that most countries with socialized healthcare have private healthcare, too.
- 24/03/2010 04:16:28 AM
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