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Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill. Inigo Montoya Send a noteboard - 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM
You may be right about reform having to start now, too. I'm rather torn on the issue, myself - the bill as passed is not that bad in itself, but it *is* bad, even disastrous, if it's the only bill that's going to be passed for the next five or ten years. So if the polarization and ugliness that this bill has sown is such that Congress waits years before trying to pass additional reforms, I'm afraid it wasn't worth that. As such, I still think a more bipartisan bill should've been possible.


Yea, that's the thing. This bill doesn't do nearly enough on it's own to truly change or save the system financially. But I have to think it makes it a hell of alot easier going foward to make more impactful reforms down the line now that the initial hurdle has been cleared. Especially if it can be explained in terms to the public that the figures (like Klein uses that graph to illustrate) are only a drop in the bucket of our total healthcare spending. When people see that this bill hasn't taken away any "freedom" as the crazy, loud right would have us believe and has given almost everyone access to care when they're sick, I think further reform will be much more palatable to the people down the road. Especially if some of the cost-saving pilot programs included in this bill are actually coming up with real results that can be shown demonstrably to save money.
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No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 08:22:27 AM 1542 Views
Meh - 22/03/2010 09:07:27 AM 886 Views
Re: Meh - 22/03/2010 01:53:43 PM 906 Views
I know what you mean. I love hearing that the "majority" are against this. - 22/03/2010 01:57:15 PM 1001 Views
surveys are crap anyways. - 22/03/2010 01:59:39 PM 850 Views
That's ignorance speaking. - 22/03/2010 02:02:46 PM 873 Views
well yah. Sorry, I wasn't meaning to say surveys as a whole are nonsense - 22/03/2010 02:09:42 PM 805 Views
Some are a plurality, some are a majority.... - 22/03/2010 04:01:56 PM 918 Views
But most of them with a high/low don't go into enough detail - 22/03/2010 09:24:29 PM 972 Views
A question? - 23/03/2010 01:11:07 AM 914 Views
I accept that there are situations where leaders must go against popular opinion - 23/03/2010 02:53:00 AM 965 Views
on the other hand *edited stupid spelling error* - 23/03/2010 03:09:47 AM 1035 Views
On a certain level I do agree with you - 23/03/2010 05:14:24 AM 874 Views
I was thinking about this after posting - 23/03/2010 12:12:17 PM 856 Views
Ahahahahahahahaha - 23/03/2010 12:57:17 PM 980 Views
why? *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:37:00 PM 433 Views
Because "populous" is not a noun in English. *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:42:16 PM 410 Views
This. - 23/03/2010 03:46:25 PM 905 Views
damn you phonetics. - 23/03/2010 03:50:33 PM 1151 Views
As Emo Philips would say - 23/03/2010 04:32:52 PM 919 Views
I always laugh when I see someone say people are "retarted" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:51:46 PM 488 Views
"Get a life, morans!" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:55:27 PM 429 Views
I think this is one of them - 23/03/2010 12:49:35 PM 1358 Views
A step in the wrong direction. - 22/03/2010 10:38:31 AM 1018 Views
didn't realize it had - 22/03/2010 11:49:36 AM 863 Views
I am happy for it - 22/03/2010 11:55:10 AM 848 Views
The Bill passed? - 22/03/2010 12:27:36 PM 975 Views
I think with the saturation coverage it has been getting people are just worn out *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:27:59 PM 446 Views
hollah that. *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:58:47 PM 390 Views
Yes. - 22/03/2010 02:38:03 PM 860 Views
Re: No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 01:39:14 PM 866 Views
I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 01:43:07 PM 1050 Views
Re: I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 02:01:07 PM 857 Views
The Bill won't get repealed. Whatever happens in November. - 23/03/2010 12:17:21 AM 881 Views
There are 18 incumbent Dem Senate seats; 41+18<67. - 29/03/2010 11:15:29 AM 893 Views
I am worried. The official reports show that it will actually erase some debt. But . . . - 22/03/2010 01:39:26 PM 991 Views
I think reform had to start now. - 22/03/2010 02:27:11 PM 1072 Views
That's a good column. - 22/03/2010 02:44:56 PM 955 Views
Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill. - 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM 1002 Views
I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:20:54 PM 886 Views
Re: I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:33:31 PM 872 Views
Let's be realistic here at least.... - 22/03/2010 04:16:23 PM 871 Views
I hope your house is built on fimrer foundations then your reasoning - 22/03/2010 04:25:49 PM 918 Views
I'm not worried, there are lots of ways to pay for the bill. - 22/03/2010 05:36:39 PM 813 Views
You should worry about cost control (AKA the only real reason for healthcare reform to begin. ) - 23/03/2010 07:02:24 AM 990 Views
bingo - 24/03/2010 03:45:48 AM 1010 Views
Next question: WTF do we do about it? - 24/03/2010 04:00:39 AM 913 Views
sadly probably not a damned thing... - 24/03/2010 04:20:45 AM 859 Views
I worry the day is coming when the Bastille is stormed. - 29/03/2010 11:06:31 AM 958 Views
It is a good start - 22/03/2010 03:01:08 PM 841 Views
Re: It is a good start - 22/03/2010 04:13:28 PM 815 Views
Heh - 22/03/2010 04:21:22 PM 946 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 04:32:30 PM 853 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 08:25:05 PM 923 Views
Sorry, I was out seizing the means of production. *NM* - 22/03/2010 07:43:19 PM 374 Views
You should delve the debate before getting excited. - 23/03/2010 07:22:36 AM 956 Views
I really like what GRR Martin wrote in his blog. - 23/03/2010 09:55:11 AM 992 Views
I agree with him - 23/03/2010 12:14:47 PM 872 Views
I would say it is rather weak point - 23/03/2010 01:12:43 PM 863 Views
Erm... - 23/03/2010 01:39:58 PM 975 Views
I am pleasantly surprised - 23/03/2010 04:14:52 PM 783 Views
Exceptions? - 24/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 819 Views
I haven't been following it too closely - 23/03/2010 02:10:39 PM 1028 Views

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