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My companions! Lend me thine vast expertise Dark Knight Send a noteboard - 20/09/2011 03:56:19 PM
Doth anyone know of a game that awards morally ambiguous players? I'm so tired of these games that have light and dark character paths, via dialogue choices, etc. You get cool abilities for being good and you get badass abilities for being evil. Never once, in my 27 years of life, have I a seen a game with cool abilities for those who stick to the middle. I want a gray character, damn it! I want to make good and bad choices, or choices that could be considered bad but were for the greater good.

But noooooo, you're awarded squat for picking neutral choices. Most people, I think, are morally gray. We're good, sure, but we make bad people sometimes too. Maybe a good game could combine the good abilities with the evil ones and have a whole different subset. For example, say a good power is to heal people. Say a evil power is to drain a persons lifeforce. A good gray power could be that you heal a person but at the same time you drain their energy. So the dude is alive but won't be moving around for a while. That's a dick move on your part, but you still saved the guy.

Besides, how fun would it be to be able to make good choices and evil ones? Usually, like in Mass Effect, I play through the game as a good character and then play through it again with an evil character. It's fun to see the results of making both choices. Well, why not mix it up with one character? There's times when I'm playing good but I get this awesome evil choice. But I have to wait for my evil playthrough to see it. Would be nice if I could just decide to be good or evil at a whim.

Any games like that?
Formerly Mat Bloody Cauthon on Wotmania, blessed be its name
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My companions! Lend me thine vast expertise - 20/09/2011 03:56:19 PM 1094 Views
Hm. It depends on what you mean by "rewarded." - 20/09/2011 04:15:18 PM 798 Views
No, not quite - 20/09/2011 04:29:42 PM 725 Views
I don't think I know anything that matches what you want. - 20/09/2011 04:39:22 PM 696 Views
You are a horrible human being. *NM* - 20/09/2011 08:24:05 PM 300 Views
- 28/09/2011 12:58:11 AM 730 Views
I thnk Fallout 3 gave you bonuses for being neutral. - 20/09/2011 04:52:11 PM 687 Views
That was the first that came to my mind, too. *NM* - 21/09/2011 09:46:11 AM 297 Views
P.S. re: "thine" - 20/09/2011 04:57:27 PM 637 Views
Damn, I knew it! - 20/09/2011 05:11:25 PM 696 Views
"Netural" isn't about picking "good and evil" choices. - 20/09/2011 04:59:42 PM 705 Views
It'd be pretty difficult to specifically reward you for being a 'gray' character. (Two games) - 20/09/2011 05:02:28 PM 838 Views
Take Knights of the Old Republic, for example - 20/09/2011 05:08:04 PM 746 Views
That's not so much an alignment as just metagaming the system. - 20/09/2011 09:27:49 PM 705 Views
thank you for phrasing that better than me *NM* - 20/09/2011 11:11:54 PM 304 Views
Maybe I didn't explain right - 20/09/2011 11:19:51 PM 640 Views
I'd say that's evil. - 21/09/2011 03:00:32 AM 813 Views
of course, then you get into question of whether actions like that example are evil - 21/09/2011 04:03:03 AM 694 Views
Questions of morality are the great fun of philosophy . - 21/09/2011 05:24:50 AM 652 Views
Re: I'd say that's evil. - 21/09/2011 06:23:11 PM 793 Views
Re: I'd say that's evil. - 21/09/2011 10:21:17 PM 804 Views
That's actually a pretty narrow view of Neutral when it comes to Alignment or Morality. - 21/09/2011 02:19:34 PM 690 Views
I thought I had allowed for what you said. - 21/09/2011 04:33:30 PM 624 Views
It's not a neutral outlook - 21/09/2011 06:27:27 PM 750 Views
See, what you're talking about IS in fact considered EVIL. - 21/09/2011 08:33:30 PM 689 Views
You might want to try The Witcher series. - 21/09/2011 05:16:05 AM 672 Views
I just played the first one... - 21/09/2011 02:14:13 PM 719 Views
Grey decisions are good but... - 21/09/2011 06:19:04 PM 766 Views
they don't reward it because, for the most part, they don't want you taking a middle ground. - 21/09/2011 07:10:48 PM 641 Views
Well that's just stupid. Tired of picking the 2 sides over and over *NM* - 21/09/2011 08:02:11 PM 341 Views
Neutrality is often boring or selfish. Good stories seldom have truly neutral protagonists. *NM* - 22/09/2011 06:27:05 PM 321 Views
Are you kidding? - 22/09/2011 06:54:19 PM 717 Views
That's chaotic good, not neutral. *NM* - 22/09/2011 10:36:28 PM 331 Views
I have an on-topic comment as well as a general rant on game morality systems. - 21/09/2011 06:43:21 PM 850 Views
if they wanted to make the conversation mechanics more complicated... - 21/09/2011 07:14:21 PM 767 Views
I don't care if it's complicated so long as it's clear. - 22/09/2011 08:27:46 PM 651 Views
I agree with this, actually. *NM* - 22/09/2011 09:17:23 PM 334 Views
I agree with that, too. *NM* - 22/09/2011 10:38:15 PM 319 Views

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