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So right now let me share the joke that is happening in my mind Roland00 Send a noteboard - 29/07/2017 07:28:22 PM

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I don't have to misuse the word "gender" and it provides a bit of variety for the terminology.

I am recalling this 35 second scene from Boston Legal see here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zluIU7iAzr0

And I am imagining Tom as the Blond Guy (his fictional name in the tv show is Brad Chase) and every time he tries to avoid the word Gender, I am just merely reinserting it.

Much like the Red Head (Alan Shore) is reinserting the word Lesbian while Blond Guy (Brad Chase) is trying to avoid that word Lesbian, for it makes him uncomfortable.

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Now I understand why Tom avoids the word Gender for it is a modern change and he likes the old version(s) of the word, but the new version(s) of the word are now legitimate definitions. This is what language does, it changes over time.

And yeah it can be a pain in the ass when the new definitions subvert the old definitions, but that is a fact of life.

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Sorry Tom, I just had to share, I am not trying to mock you and understand I respect you but I do not think you are going to win this last battle like you were on some quixotic quest. You are just 1 english speaker out of ...what is the current estimates on numbers...last I heard it is roughly 1/3rd of a billion for 1st language / native speakers but how many non native speakers we have now? I seen different estimates 1 billion total, 1.5 billion, only 500 million? I think you know more about this subject than I do.

But whatever if tilting at windmills makes Tom happy then lets all celebrate for the success or failure of the act is not the only thing to care about, the enjoyment of the act also matters even if you do not succeed in your goal. Rejoice!

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Thoughts on the internet outrage over Trump's transgenders in the military announcement damookster - 26/07/2017 05:42:34 PM 1020 Views
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I dare say a lot of the rhetoric is seriously over the top... Legolas - 26/07/2017 06:13:59 PM 637 Views
like I replied to Jeo, I don't see this as a betrayal of the LGBT cause damookster - 26/07/2017 06:19:01 PM 639 Views
LGB is not the same as T. We need to stop treating it all the same. Tom - 26/07/2017 06:58:05 PM 633 Views
No the least of which... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 07:06:21 PM 672 Views
Physical mutilation is a more appropriate word. Tom - 26/07/2017 07:07:33 PM 608 Views
You're correct.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:28:20 PM 578 Views
Not always, keep that in mind. Legolas - 26/07/2017 07:35:34 PM 612 Views
I would still consider that.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:02:36 PM 640 Views
John McCain is the Left's favorite RINO Tom - 26/07/2017 08:09:41 PM 665 Views
He's not a RINO. Just built his career on being independent-minded. Legolas - 26/07/2017 09:49:32 PM 656 Views
I really don't see the independence. Where is it? Tom - 27/07/2017 01:33:27 AM 637 Views
So which is it, is he a RINO or a faithful Republican foot soldier? Legolas - 27/07/2017 08:08:04 PM 693 Views
RINOs are a pack. Tom - 28/07/2017 12:46:44 AM 613 Views
Agreed with McCain The Shrike - 27/07/2017 03:35:06 PM 603 Views
It makes eminent sense why trannies shouldn't be allowed. Tom - 26/07/2017 06:57:00 PM 640 Views
I tried to keep my points to the logic of excluding an 18 yr old trans person damookster - 26/07/2017 07:16:37 PM 668 Views
I don't have any desire to stop people from doing it Tom - 26/07/2017 07:32:08 PM 604 Views
I agree damookster - 26/07/2017 07:59:18 PM 688 Views
Absolutely agree on all counts *NM* Cannoli - 27/07/2017 06:40:03 AM 325 Views
You don't need to be 'straight' to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight. Joel - 27/07/2017 10:14:11 PM 648 Views
You're an idiot. *NM* Tom - 28/07/2017 12:47:21 AM 323 Views
You also need to pass some sort of physical standards Cannoli - 28/07/2017 03:52:14 AM 636 Views
So I was reading.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:07:11 PM 626 Views
This is part of my point Tom - 26/07/2017 09:47:39 PM 624 Views
The rate goes down significantly after transition. Ghavrel - 26/07/2017 11:24:50 PM 607 Views
Bullshit. Tom - 27/07/2017 01:40:05 AM 712 Views
I also like that study because it uses correct terminology: transsexual, sex-reassigned. Tom - 27/07/2017 01:42:19 AM 636 Views
Gender has had a non-grammatical meaning since the 1950s, and you know it. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 03:05:09 AM 611 Views
And people misuse the subjunctive all the time. Your point? Tom - 27/07/2017 04:57:19 AM 633 Views
Re: And people misuse the subjunctive all the time. Your point? Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:13:57 PM 624 Views
That's not necessarily a biological difference Tom - 27/07/2017 05:03:30 PM 697 Views
or liposuction or laser fat removal too. *NM* damookster - 27/07/2017 05:06:56 PM 339 Views
Facelifts, tummy tucks, collagen implants, nose jobs... *NM* Tom - 27/07/2017 05:09:01 PM 324 Views
Not bullshit. The rate decreases. It is still elevated relative to the general population. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 03:00:15 AM 650 Views
"transition is the cure" Tom - 27/07/2017 04:50:11 AM 650 Views
Sloppy wording on my part. Transition is currently the most effective known cure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:18:41 PM 638 Views
Yes, but that just argues against transsexuals in the military either way Tom - 27/07/2017 05:04:39 PM 574 Views
Yes, and I don't feel particularly strongly about the current fiasco for that reason. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:51:29 PM 646 Views
Yes, I am waiting for one of our veterans to weigh in with their thoughts. *NM* damookster - 27/07/2017 06:13:19 PM 318 Views
For what it's worth.... Jeordam - 28/07/2017 10:36:22 PM 652 Views
I have a friend who was an officer in the army who feels the same way. Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 12:37:48 AM 599 Views
which should then close the debate on the original question damookster - 27/07/2017 05:07:34 AM 649 Views
Exactly. *NM* Tom - 27/07/2017 01:26:48 PM 329 Views
Well, to the extent that it covers people with dysphoria, sure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:26:26 PM 590 Views
As I said above, Viagra treats a dysfunction Tom - 27/07/2017 05:08:19 PM 633 Views
also, to a point you made earlier damookster - 27/07/2017 05:39:32 PM 597 Views
Well, that's an argument for not putting them in roles where they can be captured, sure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:53:02 PM 577 Views
The argument is that transition corrects the dysfunction of gender dysphoria. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:49:24 PM 604 Views
So let me understand your position correctly via asking a few questions Roland00 - 28/07/2017 04:01:50 AM 654 Views
Too long Tom - 28/07/2017 01:54:11 PM 625 Views
The main reason for the post was the standard you created Roland00 - 28/07/2017 05:00:27 PM 585 Views
Reductio ad absurdum, Roland? damookster - 28/07/2017 05:29:23 PM 586 Views
I know Tom and Cannoli don't care, but on the off chance that you do... Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 12:39:16 AM 640 Views
I didn't realize that damookster - 29/07/2017 01:10:30 AM 561 Views
Also trivia Roland00 - 29/07/2017 01:22:37 AM 542 Views
No worries. I'm not offended. I just thought you might want to know. *NM* Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 02:32:01 AM 298 Views
Thanks damookster - 29/07/2017 03:25:08 AM 563 Views
I don't? *NM* Cannoli - 29/07/2017 08:23:14 AM 338 Views
Yeah, I really don't care. Though I use the term for a different reason. Tom - 29/07/2017 07:12:03 PM 597 Views
So right now let me share the joke that is happening in my mind Roland00 - 29/07/2017 07:28:22 PM 544 Views
Girlfriend Mookie, you are projecting onto me. Roland00 - 29/07/2017 01:17:47 AM 641 Views
I absolutely respect you, Roland/Matt damookster - 29/07/2017 01:40:28 AM 569 Views
We are cool Roland00 - 29/07/2017 02:36:00 AM 627 Views
Blah blah blah and now I am showing off like an asshole Roland00 - 29/07/2017 02:52:48 AM 573 Views
you're a nice guy, Roland00 damookster - 29/07/2017 03:22:15 AM 597 Views
OMG mookie gave me the Nice Guy speech / Good Guy speech Roland00 - 29/07/2017 07:41:23 PM 538 Views
I've never seen Newsroom damookster - 29/07/2017 08:00:38 PM 572 Views
Teases I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too! Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:13:30 PM 590 Views
Nah, I'm not that subtle. damookster - 29/07/2017 11:01:39 PM 541 Views
Edit: Double Posted due to bad wifi *NM* Roland00 - 28/07/2017 04:01:51 AM 322 Views
Serving its end: As long as everyone argues over this, no one talks about Trumpcare nor Russiagate Joel - 27/07/2017 10:05:00 PM 575 Views
What's horrible is the portmandu with -gate......Can we just let that one go yet? *NM* Jeordam - 27/07/2017 10:51:20 PM 310 Views
Joel, seriously damookster - 29/07/2017 08:33:14 PM 618 Views
No the real boogeymen are the ones we do not see with our eyes, but are still lurking in the shadows Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:16:34 PM 515 Views
And Rejoice Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:17:42 PM 574 Views
You are mixing up your metaphors, it is sleight of hand not sleight of mind Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:20:17 PM 577 Views
Everybody Is Missing The Mark Here MrFarstrider - 29/07/2017 10:25:04 PM 696 Views
Nice comments. Thanks for that explanation. *NM* damookster - 29/07/2017 11:15:29 PM 323 Views
Also, For the Record MrFarstrider - 30/07/2017 08:02:58 AM 718 Views
Incite or Insight *NM* Roland00 - 01/08/2017 06:30:28 AM 308 Views
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