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Also, For the Record MrFarstrider Send a noteboard - 30/07/2017 08:02:58 AM

I am neither for nor against either the Obama or Trump policies as it would be wildly inappropriate for me to question the policy and orders of the civilian chain of command. I am merely providing incite to our enthusiastic elector overlords so that they can continue to make good, but mostly indifferent, decisions once it comes time for less than half of the population to elect my new boss in the White House.

There, that should cover me arse.

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Thoughts on the internet outrage over Trump's transgenders in the military announcement damookster - 26/07/2017 05:42:34 PM 963 Views
Maybe because.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 06:08:16 PM 551 Views
I get that damookster - 26/07/2017 06:12:35 PM 575 Views
I don't think that your reasoning is flawed.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 06:31:06 PM 610 Views
bottom line damookster - 26/07/2017 06:40:36 PM 572 Views
*shrug* Jeordam - 26/07/2017 07:05:17 PM 550 Views
I dare say a lot of the rhetoric is seriously over the top... Legolas - 26/07/2017 06:13:59 PM 568 Views
like I replied to Jeo, I don't see this as a betrayal of the LGBT cause damookster - 26/07/2017 06:19:01 PM 585 Views
LGB is not the same as T. We need to stop treating it all the same. Tom - 26/07/2017 06:58:05 PM 570 Views
No the least of which... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 07:06:21 PM 607 Views
Physical mutilation is a more appropriate word. Tom - 26/07/2017 07:07:33 PM 549 Views
You're correct.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:28:20 PM 528 Views
Not always, keep that in mind. Legolas - 26/07/2017 07:35:34 PM 555 Views
I would still consider that.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:02:36 PM 582 Views
John McCain is the Left's favorite RINO Tom - 26/07/2017 08:09:41 PM 604 Views
He's not a RINO. Just built his career on being independent-minded. Legolas - 26/07/2017 09:49:32 PM 595 Views
I really don't see the independence. Where is it? Tom - 27/07/2017 01:33:27 AM 569 Views
So which is it, is he a RINO or a faithful Republican foot soldier? Legolas - 27/07/2017 08:08:04 PM 635 Views
RINOs are a pack. Tom - 28/07/2017 12:46:44 AM 553 Views
Agreed with McCain The Shrike - 27/07/2017 03:35:06 PM 558 Views
It makes eminent sense why trannies shouldn't be allowed. Tom - 26/07/2017 06:57:00 PM 572 Views
I tried to keep my points to the logic of excluding an 18 yr old trans person damookster - 26/07/2017 07:16:37 PM 606 Views
I don't have any desire to stop people from doing it Tom - 26/07/2017 07:32:08 PM 540 Views
I agree damookster - 26/07/2017 07:59:18 PM 625 Views
Absolutely agree on all counts *NM* Cannoli - 27/07/2017 06:40:03 AM 296 Views
You don't need to be 'straight' to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight. Joel - 27/07/2017 10:14:11 PM 578 Views
You're an idiot. *NM* Tom - 28/07/2017 12:47:21 AM 298 Views
You also need to pass some sort of physical standards Cannoli - 28/07/2017 03:52:14 AM 586 Views
So I was reading.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:07:11 PM 562 Views
This is part of my point Tom - 26/07/2017 09:47:39 PM 569 Views
The rate goes down significantly after transition. Ghavrel - 26/07/2017 11:24:50 PM 541 Views
Bullshit. Tom - 27/07/2017 01:40:05 AM 641 Views
I also like that study because it uses correct terminology: transsexual, sex-reassigned. Tom - 27/07/2017 01:42:19 AM 582 Views
Gender has had a non-grammatical meaning since the 1950s, and you know it. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 03:05:09 AM 547 Views
And people misuse the subjunctive all the time. Your point? Tom - 27/07/2017 04:57:19 AM 577 Views
Re: And people misuse the subjunctive all the time. Your point? Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:13:57 PM 569 Views
That's not necessarily a biological difference Tom - 27/07/2017 05:03:30 PM 638 Views
or liposuction or laser fat removal too. *NM* damookster - 27/07/2017 05:06:56 PM 311 Views
Facelifts, tummy tucks, collagen implants, nose jobs... *NM* Tom - 27/07/2017 05:09:01 PM 293 Views
Not bullshit. The rate decreases. It is still elevated relative to the general population. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 03:00:15 AM 588 Views
"transition is the cure" Tom - 27/07/2017 04:50:11 AM 590 Views
Sloppy wording on my part. Transition is currently the most effective known cure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:18:41 PM 574 Views
Yes, but that just argues against transsexuals in the military either way Tom - 27/07/2017 05:04:39 PM 516 Views
Yes, and I don't feel particularly strongly about the current fiasco for that reason. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:51:29 PM 577 Views
Yes, I am waiting for one of our veterans to weigh in with their thoughts. *NM* damookster - 27/07/2017 06:13:19 PM 289 Views
For what it's worth.... Jeordam - 28/07/2017 10:36:22 PM 603 Views
I have a friend who was an officer in the army who feels the same way. Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 12:37:48 AM 541 Views
which should then close the debate on the original question damookster - 27/07/2017 05:07:34 AM 582 Views
Exactly. *NM* Tom - 27/07/2017 01:26:48 PM 301 Views
Well, to the extent that it covers people with dysphoria, sure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:26:26 PM 530 Views
As I said above, Viagra treats a dysfunction Tom - 27/07/2017 05:08:19 PM 570 Views
also, to a point you made earlier damookster - 27/07/2017 05:39:32 PM 542 Views
Well, that's an argument for not putting them in roles where they can be captured, sure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:53:02 PM 527 Views
The argument is that transition corrects the dysfunction of gender dysphoria. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:49:24 PM 534 Views
So let me understand your position correctly via asking a few questions Roland00 - 28/07/2017 04:01:50 AM 597 Views
Too long Tom - 28/07/2017 01:54:11 PM 564 Views
The main reason for the post was the standard you created Roland00 - 28/07/2017 05:00:27 PM 524 Views
Reductio ad absurdum, Roland? damookster - 28/07/2017 05:29:23 PM 530 Views
I know Tom and Cannoli don't care, but on the off chance that you do... Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 12:39:16 AM 584 Views
I didn't realize that damookster - 29/07/2017 01:10:30 AM 505 Views
Also trivia Roland00 - 29/07/2017 01:22:37 AM 486 Views
No worries. I'm not offended. I just thought you might want to know. *NM* Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 02:32:01 AM 269 Views
Thanks damookster - 29/07/2017 03:25:08 AM 507 Views
I don't? *NM* Cannoli - 29/07/2017 08:23:14 AM 304 Views
Yeah, I really don't care. Though I use the term for a different reason. Tom - 29/07/2017 07:12:03 PM 555 Views
So right now let me share the joke that is happening in my mind Roland00 - 29/07/2017 07:28:22 PM 489 Views
Girlfriend Mookie, you are projecting onto me. Roland00 - 29/07/2017 01:17:47 AM 574 Views
I absolutely respect you, Roland/Matt damookster - 29/07/2017 01:40:28 AM 515 Views
We are cool Roland00 - 29/07/2017 02:36:00 AM 572 Views
Blah blah blah and now I am showing off like an asshole Roland00 - 29/07/2017 02:52:48 AM 522 Views
you're a nice guy, Roland00 damookster - 29/07/2017 03:22:15 AM 542 Views
OMG mookie gave me the Nice Guy speech / Good Guy speech Roland00 - 29/07/2017 07:41:23 PM 476 Views
I've never seen Newsroom damookster - 29/07/2017 08:00:38 PM 513 Views
Teases I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too! Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:13:30 PM 516 Views
Nah, I'm not that subtle. damookster - 29/07/2017 11:01:39 PM 478 Views
Edit: Double Posted due to bad wifi *NM* Roland00 - 28/07/2017 04:01:51 AM 298 Views
Serving its end: As long as everyone argues over this, no one talks about Trumpcare nor Russiagate Joel - 27/07/2017 10:05:00 PM 513 Views
What's horrible is the portmandu with -gate......Can we just let that one go yet? *NM* Jeordam - 27/07/2017 10:51:20 PM 262 Views
Joel, seriously damookster - 29/07/2017 08:33:14 PM 546 Views
No the real boogeymen are the ones we do not see with our eyes, but are still lurking in the shadows Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:16:34 PM 470 Views
And Rejoice Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:17:42 PM 519 Views
You are mixing up your metaphors, it is sleight of hand not sleight of mind Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:20:17 PM 520 Views
Everybody Is Missing The Mark Here MrFarstrider - 29/07/2017 10:25:04 PM 625 Views
Nice comments. Thanks for that explanation. *NM* damookster - 29/07/2017 11:15:29 PM 295 Views
Also, For the Record MrFarstrider - 30/07/2017 08:02:58 AM 655 Views
Incite or Insight *NM* Roland00 - 01/08/2017 06:30:28 AM 277 Views
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