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Stop attempting to prevent discourse because it offends your sensibilities. TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 02/10/2017 08:39:47 PM

The very first thing you posted in this thread was "too soon". This was number 273 this year and by the time you'd posted we were already onto 274.

"Too soon" isn't an argument anymore, it works after the first few but not after a few hundred. After Sandy Hook there was respectful silence and mourning followed by... nothing.

And at this stage the only "trolling" is the constant calls to ignore the problem.

Come to the dark side, We have candy!

I'm Israel, he's Palestine, its more fun when you pick sides.
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The US is now 273/275 for mass shootings this year! TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 06:07:38 PM 2020 Views
Perhaps we could also wait for the bodies to get cold before politicizing a tragedy? *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 07:11:18 PM 582 Views
Indeed. LiterateDog - 02/10/2017 07:32:41 PM 947 Views
yes. damookster - 02/10/2017 07:41:15 PM 948 Views
Well, to be fair, dude ain't got no crown. LiterateDog - 02/10/2017 07:43:31 PM 948 Views
I suppose lack of a crown could be disconcerting damookster - 02/10/2017 07:47:46 PM 984 Views
Does that mean uncircumcised? Tom - 02/10/2017 09:16:23 PM 899 Views
Same here. Tom - 02/10/2017 09:15:29 PM 994 Views
No. It's a willful failure of policy, just like the last thousands times. We fucking can't. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:47:16 PM 946 Views
Yes.You.Could. damookster - 02/10/2017 07:49:17 PM 962 Views
Because not politicizing the first thousand worked so well... TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:52:09 PM 981 Views
Really? damookster - 02/10/2017 07:55:22 PM 952 Views
How much time is "enough time" exactly? Just until the next one so the clock can reset? *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:01:51 PM 542 Views
double post for emphasis. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 07:49:17 PM 580 Views
Oh and "also"? That comment was preemptively aimed at the very sentiment you were expressing. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:54:12 PM 572 Views
It failed. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 07:56:19 PM 543 Views
Then you misunderstood it's purpose. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:58:15 PM 560 Views
doubtful. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:00:38 PM 831 Views
The dick move is the continual inaction and call for silence. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:05:24 PM 930 Views
One or two days would defeat your purpose? damookster - 02/10/2017 08:15:49 PM 1004 Views
And what if someone goes out an shoots another 50+ people tomorrow? TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:18:31 PM 917 Views
Your post on a website with 100 active users would prevent that? *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:22:25 PM 555 Views
Just another argument aimed at silencing discussion *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:27:27 PM 545 Views
If you want discussion how about making specific points or suggestions? damookster - 02/10/2017 08:31:09 PM 919 Views
Stop attempting to prevent discourse because it offends your sensibilities. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:39:47 PM 930 Views
oh fuck off damookster - 02/10/2017 08:45:05 PM 953 Views
Oh please, the problem isn't a lack of ideas. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:04:18 PM 915 Views
You do realize that the guns used in Las Vegas may have already been illegal. damookster - 02/10/2017 09:14:47 PM 935 Views
Or it may have been modified with a completely legal $95 stock TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:30:44 PM 887 Views
Multiple firearm experts here have stated that audio analysis makes it unlikely... damookster - 02/10/2017 09:42:20 PM 939 Views
Re: Multiple firearm experts here have stated that audio analysis makes it unlikely... TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:53:23 PM 953 Views
People who go to the bother of obtaining illegal weapons in order to kill people... damookster - 02/10/2017 09:59:52 PM 910 Views
That is why you limit access to them. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:21:32 PM 527 Views
It should be noted.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:13:19 PM 909 Views
All the more reason for federal regulation on the matter *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:20:49 PM 552 Views
The federal law wouldn't do much more.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:33:46 PM 941 Views
And because a law only makes a problem slightly better TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:40:00 PM 916 Views
And that would be the difference between you and me.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:45:13 PM 942 Views
You sail in the ocean blind long enough and eventually you hit an iceberg. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:51:24 PM 951 Views
Again.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:07:20 PM 955 Views
If there's an average of 1 per day, when are we not mourning? nossy - 02/10/2017 08:03:46 PM 959 Views
How about when we have better and more complete information, for one? damookster - 02/10/2017 08:11:18 PM 864 Views
A 64 year old man walked into a hotel with 10 guns TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:17:24 PM 981 Views
Which hypothesis? *NM* nossy - 02/10/2017 08:20:51 PM 552 Views
The United States has an unaddressed problem with firearm violence. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:23:28 PM 576 Views
I agree with that premise. *NM* nossy - 02/10/2017 08:26:58 PM 532 Views
I will always agree with that, nossy - 02/10/2017 08:19:58 PM 959 Views
That was my point. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:24:56 PM 1053 Views
Eh, well nossy - 02/10/2017 08:31:43 PM 915 Views
how about something a little more tangible than "your country has a problem?" *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:33:13 PM 587 Views
jeez, twice in one thread. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:33:13 PM 539 Views
Weirdly, I also agree with this nossy - 02/10/2017 08:42:26 PM 845 Views
See Roland00's reply. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:47:57 PM 837 Views
Again nossy - 02/10/2017 08:59:44 PM 870 Views
Nobody said "your country is stupid" TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:06:54 PM 880 Views
The "other side" is trying to use the emotions of the moment to pass things they couldn't otherwise random thoughts - 03/10/2017 11:57:38 AM 924 Views
Lets postpone the discussion to 10/10 Roland00 - 02/10/2017 08:36:57 PM 986 Views
I have no problem with discussion. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:40:43 PM 909 Views
But, but, you lose a news cycle that way! Tom - 02/10/2017 09:14:19 PM 905 Views
"And we wonder why we have shootings like this at all..." TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:40:40 PM 875 Views
Wow step away from the spicy nachos Tom *NM* Roland00 - 02/10/2017 09:51:00 PM 608 Views
Make that 274, 3 people dead and 2 wounded in Lawrence. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:22:21 PM 899 Views
So what you would you say the solution would be? Jeordam - 02/10/2017 08:50:54 PM 930 Views
Exactly. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:52:53 PM 496 Views
Any number of the dozens of pieces of legislation that is proposed *every time* this happens TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:11:26 PM 1015 Views
And yet, almost every time shootings happen, none of those measures would have done anything. Tom - 02/10/2017 09:22:51 PM 928 Views
Speculation and ignored macro-effects TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:39:30 PM 902 Views
An honest Question Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:06:16 PM 862 Views
The second amendment is part of the problem. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:30:21 PM 575 Views
And now you just lost... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:39:21 PM 923 Views
Oh the fight is already won TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:50:00 PM 933 Views
I would disagree.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:09:36 PM 917 Views
I don't think you're very educated as to Second Amendment jurisprudence. Ghavrel - 03/10/2017 12:13:27 AM 1027 Views
Why let silly things like facts get in the way of a good polemic? damookster - 03/10/2017 01:24:24 AM 943 Views
And it's difficult to overstate how much they advanced its reach. Ghavrel - 03/10/2017 04:31:58 AM 959 Views
Yes I actually knew that damookster - 03/10/2017 04:37:40 AM 981 Views
Re: Yes I actually knew that Ghavrel - 03/10/2017 09:18:08 AM 955 Views
Question for you Ghav but also for any other RAFOite Roland00 - 03/10/2017 06:51:47 AM 979 Views
It's likely the Ferguson Effect. *NM* Tom - 03/10/2017 09:47:42 PM 525 Views
with a corresponding rise in gang activity and violence *NM* damookster - 03/10/2017 10:07:18 PM 555 Views
This too needs to be studied the Ferguson Effect Roland00 - 03/10/2017 10:43:02 PM 1090 Views
It was, before they first started putting limitations on it TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 05:35:27 AM 1039 Views
What court cases do you think are examples of the trend constricting the 2nd Amendment? *NM* Ghavrel - 04/10/2017 05:48:41 AM 505 Views
some of these would never fly here damookster - 02/10/2017 10:14:57 PM 934 Views
And just to say it.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:18:06 PM 935 Views
Re: some of these would never fly here TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:37:24 PM 979 Views
some of these would never fly here damookster - 02/10/2017 10:14:57 PM 846 Views
So let's work through these... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:02:09 PM 1196 Views
Post to my own post.....wow *NM* Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:02:19 PM 518 Views
Re: So let's work through these... TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:20:08 PM 1047 Views
Ok...let's talk Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:32:58 PM 948 Views
Re: Ok...let's talk TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 11:02:44 PM 1320 Views
Dialogue....good. Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:17:46 PM 955 Views
Just what kind of reaction did you expect to get with a post like this? Legolas - 02/10/2017 10:10:34 PM 954 Views
For people to think about the problem rather than token sympathies. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:28:59 PM 999 Views
And the proof for that is....? *NM* Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:41:29 PM 551 Views
Killing people is the whole point of guns. The real issue is who gets killed. Cannoli - 02/10/2017 10:55:59 PM 1020 Views
No use putting someone in prison if you don't lock the door after them *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 11:04:12 PM 527 Views
But after they get out.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:39:39 PM 900 Views
I don't think you're going about it in a very smart way, then. Legolas - 03/10/2017 12:23:33 AM 1074 Views
It's never the right occasion to start talking about it. TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 05:39:15 AM 885 Views
But he was offering Candy, how can you say no to Candy? *NM* Roland00 - 02/10/2017 10:31:24 PM 616 Views
I was going to make a post to this effect, but you preempted me. I agree 100%. Ghavrel - 02/10/2017 11:15:21 PM 942 Views
Re: The US is now 273/275 for mass shootings this year! Nargs - 03/10/2017 12:58:31 AM 942 Views
Oh please TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 05:36:12 AM 897 Views
it is like the time buses were exploding in Israel, except it is Americans who are doing it AgentApple - 03/10/2017 06:19:56 PM 1048 Views
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