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And because a law only makes a problem slightly better TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 02/10/2017 10:40:00 PM

it shouldn't be implemented?


"Lets not fix the hole in the boat because it won't get rid of the water that's already inside"

The only way that is logical is if you want the ship to sink as fast as possible.

Come to the dark side, We have candy!

I'm Israel, he's Palestine, its more fun when you pick sides.
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The US is now 273/275 for mass shootings this year! TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 06:07:38 PM 1674 Views
Perhaps we could also wait for the bodies to get cold before politicizing a tragedy? *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 07:11:18 PM 426 Views
Indeed. LiterateDog - 02/10/2017 07:32:41 PM 616 Views
yes. damookster - 02/10/2017 07:41:15 PM 655 Views
Well, to be fair, dude ain't got no crown. LiterateDog - 02/10/2017 07:43:31 PM 623 Views
I suppose lack of a crown could be disconcerting damookster - 02/10/2017 07:47:46 PM 637 Views
Does that mean uncircumcised? Tom - 02/10/2017 09:16:23 PM 589 Views
Same here. Tom - 02/10/2017 09:15:29 PM 683 Views
No. It's a willful failure of policy, just like the last thousands times. We fucking can't. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:47:16 PM 638 Views
Yes.You.Could. damookster - 02/10/2017 07:49:17 PM 651 Views
Because not politicizing the first thousand worked so well... TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:52:09 PM 647 Views
Really? damookster - 02/10/2017 07:55:22 PM 637 Views
How much time is "enough time" exactly? Just until the next one so the clock can reset? *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:01:51 PM 384 Views
double post for emphasis. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 07:49:17 PM 442 Views
Oh and "also"? That comment was preemptively aimed at the very sentiment you were expressing. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:54:12 PM 427 Views
It failed. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 07:56:19 PM 401 Views
Then you misunderstood it's purpose. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:58:15 PM 420 Views
doubtful. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:00:38 PM 553 Views
The dick move is the continual inaction and call for silence. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:05:24 PM 605 Views
One or two days would defeat your purpose? damookster - 02/10/2017 08:15:49 PM 685 Views
And what if someone goes out an shoots another 50+ people tomorrow? TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:18:31 PM 590 Views
Your post on a website with 100 active users would prevent that? *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:22:25 PM 393 Views
Just another argument aimed at silencing discussion *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:27:27 PM 402 Views
If you want discussion how about making specific points or suggestions? damookster - 02/10/2017 08:31:09 PM 625 Views
Stop attempting to prevent discourse because it offends your sensibilities. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:39:47 PM 655 Views
oh fuck off damookster - 02/10/2017 08:45:05 PM 636 Views
Oh please, the problem isn't a lack of ideas. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:04:18 PM 600 Views
You do realize that the guns used in Las Vegas may have already been illegal. damookster - 02/10/2017 09:14:47 PM 619 Views
Or it may have been modified with a completely legal $95 stock TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:30:44 PM 585 Views
Multiple firearm experts here have stated that audio analysis makes it unlikely... damookster - 02/10/2017 09:42:20 PM 613 Views
Re: Multiple firearm experts here have stated that audio analysis makes it unlikely... TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:53:23 PM 635 Views
People who go to the bother of obtaining illegal weapons in order to kill people... damookster - 02/10/2017 09:59:52 PM 623 Views
That is why you limit access to them. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:21:32 PM 388 Views
It should be noted.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:13:19 PM 603 Views
All the more reason for federal regulation on the matter *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:20:49 PM 411 Views
The federal law wouldn't do much more.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:33:46 PM 632 Views
And because a law only makes a problem slightly better TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:40:00 PM 612 Views
And that would be the difference between you and me.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:45:13 PM 599 Views
You sail in the ocean blind long enough and eventually you hit an iceberg. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:51:24 PM 626 Views
Again.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:07:20 PM 631 Views
If there's an average of 1 per day, when are we not mourning? nossy - 02/10/2017 08:03:46 PM 628 Views
How about when we have better and more complete information, for one? damookster - 02/10/2017 08:11:18 PM 571 Views
A 64 year old man walked into a hotel with 10 guns TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:17:24 PM 689 Views
Which hypothesis? *NM* nossy - 02/10/2017 08:20:51 PM 408 Views
The United States has an unaddressed problem with firearm violence. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:23:28 PM 427 Views
I agree with that premise. *NM* nossy - 02/10/2017 08:26:58 PM 386 Views
I will always agree with that, nossy - 02/10/2017 08:19:58 PM 630 Views
That was my point. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:24:56 PM 724 Views
Eh, well nossy - 02/10/2017 08:31:43 PM 605 Views
how about something a little more tangible than "your country has a problem?" *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:33:13 PM 430 Views
jeez, twice in one thread. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:33:13 PM 387 Views
Weirdly, I also agree with this nossy - 02/10/2017 08:42:26 PM 544 Views
See Roland00's reply. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:47:57 PM 550 Views
Again nossy - 02/10/2017 08:59:44 PM 558 Views
Nobody said "your country is stupid" TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:06:54 PM 573 Views
The "other side" is trying to use the emotions of the moment to pass things they couldn't otherwise random thoughts - 03/10/2017 11:57:38 AM 584 Views
Lets postpone the discussion to 10/10 Roland00 - 02/10/2017 08:36:57 PM 630 Views
I have no problem with discussion. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:40:43 PM 613 Views
But, but, you lose a news cycle that way! Tom - 02/10/2017 09:14:19 PM 599 Views
"And we wonder why we have shootings like this at all..." TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:40:40 PM 570 Views
Wow step away from the spicy nachos Tom *NM* Roland00 - 02/10/2017 09:51:00 PM 433 Views
Make that 274, 3 people dead and 2 wounded in Lawrence. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:22:21 PM 602 Views
So what you would you say the solution would be? Jeordam - 02/10/2017 08:50:54 PM 587 Views
Exactly. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:52:53 PM 357 Views
Any number of the dozens of pieces of legislation that is proposed *every time* this happens TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:11:26 PM 680 Views
And yet, almost every time shootings happen, none of those measures would have done anything. Tom - 02/10/2017 09:22:51 PM 620 Views
Speculation and ignored macro-effects TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:39:30 PM 616 Views
An honest Question Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:06:16 PM 568 Views
The second amendment is part of the problem. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:30:21 PM 407 Views
And now you just lost... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:39:21 PM 611 Views
Oh the fight is already won TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:50:00 PM 610 Views
I would disagree.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:09:36 PM 605 Views
I don't think you're very educated as to Second Amendment jurisprudence. Ghavrel - 03/10/2017 12:13:27 AM 699 Views
Why let silly things like facts get in the way of a good polemic? damookster - 03/10/2017 01:24:24 AM 658 Views
And it's difficult to overstate how much they advanced its reach. Ghavrel - 03/10/2017 04:31:58 AM 618 Views
Yes I actually knew that damookster - 03/10/2017 04:37:40 AM 671 Views
Re: Yes I actually knew that Ghavrel - 03/10/2017 09:18:08 AM 629 Views
Question for you Ghav but also for any other RAFOite Roland00 - 03/10/2017 06:51:47 AM 652 Views
It's likely the Ferguson Effect. *NM* Tom - 03/10/2017 09:47:42 PM 377 Views
with a corresponding rise in gang activity and violence *NM* damookster - 03/10/2017 10:07:18 PM 379 Views
This too needs to be studied the Ferguson Effect Roland00 - 03/10/2017 10:43:02 PM 751 Views
It was, before they first started putting limitations on it TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 05:35:27 AM 693 Views
What court cases do you think are examples of the trend constricting the 2nd Amendment? *NM* Ghavrel - 04/10/2017 05:48:41 AM 368 Views
some of these would never fly here damookster - 02/10/2017 10:14:57 PM 638 Views
And just to say it.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:18:06 PM 614 Views
Re: some of these would never fly here TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:37:24 PM 661 Views
some of these would never fly here damookster - 02/10/2017 10:14:57 PM 544 Views
So let's work through these... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:02:09 PM 635 Views
Post to my own post.....wow *NM* Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:02:19 PM 369 Views
Re: So let's work through these... TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:20:08 PM 583 Views
Ok...let's talk Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:32:58 PM 579 Views
Re: Ok...let's talk TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 11:02:44 PM 709 Views
Dialogue....good. Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:17:46 PM 583 Views
Just what kind of reaction did you expect to get with a post like this? Legolas - 02/10/2017 10:10:34 PM 638 Views
For people to think about the problem rather than token sympathies. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:28:59 PM 686 Views
And the proof for that is....? *NM* Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:41:29 PM 407 Views
Killing people is the whole point of guns. The real issue is who gets killed. Cannoli - 02/10/2017 10:55:59 PM 693 Views
No use putting someone in prison if you don't lock the door after them *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 11:04:12 PM 382 Views
But after they get out.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:39:39 PM 614 Views
I don't think you're going about it in a very smart way, then. Legolas - 03/10/2017 12:23:33 AM 747 Views
It's never the right occasion to start talking about it. TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 05:39:15 AM 576 Views
But he was offering Candy, how can you say no to Candy? *NM* Roland00 - 02/10/2017 10:31:24 PM 424 Views
I was going to make a post to this effect, but you preempted me. I agree 100%. Ghavrel - 02/10/2017 11:15:21 PM 647 Views
Re: The US is now 273/275 for mass shootings this year! Nargs - 03/10/2017 12:58:31 AM 613 Views
Oh please TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 05:36:12 AM 595 Views
it is like the time buses were exploding in Israel, except it is Americans who are doing it AgentApple - 03/10/2017 06:19:56 PM 707 Views
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