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Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM

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Somehow students survived for decades/centuries reading works like
Metamorphoses, To Kill A Mockingbird, Crime & Punishment, Huckleberry Finn, Things Fall Apart, The Bible. Yes, the Bible. Will the Bible also get a Trigger Warning?

I don't think that's a great argument. People survived for decades/centuries without running water and electricity, too. What is the detriment of letting someone know the book they're about to read contains potentially distressing topics?

"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

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Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom? The Shrike - 16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM 2447 Views
Good article. Tom - 16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM 963 Views
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/me steals your WSE points. *NM* The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:48:08 PM 522 Views
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Old dude, you make a good point, too. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM 839 Views
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All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM 494 Views
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I still have hope The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:50:35 PM 892 Views
I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of... LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM 855 Views
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This article agrees with your assessment The Shrike - 17/10/2017 02:30:03 PM 951 Views
I appreciate your amendment. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM 1131 Views
no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM 850 Views
Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. nossy - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 932 Views
Most of us are very good at that random thoughts - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 862 Views
Thanks. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 777 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 836 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 808 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 762 Views
Nods Roland00 - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 782 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 969 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 842 Views
How would you propose such warnings be worded? damookster - 18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM 819 Views
Do you know a lot of people who suffer from PTSD? Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 05:26:06 AM 1006 Views
Stop. Now. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 770 Views
Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM 805 Views
You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature. The Shrike - 19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM 842 Views
That's reasonable. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM 812 Views
Third party website? I fully support that. The Shrike - 20/10/2017 12:41:33 PM 928 Views
Peace for our time! I agree with everything you wrote here. I'm always a sucker for more studies. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:03:31 AM 456 Views
Well argument settled becuase they already exist random thoughts - 23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM 745 Views
Yeah but they don't necessarily exist for works of literature usually read at the university level The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:28:35 PM 773 Views
That is true but it could fixed if there was more demand random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:00:21 PM 778 Views
I feel like I now need a trigger warning for trigger warnings. *NM* The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:48:47 PM 537 Views
Fuck you Tom Roland00 - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 936 Views
Oh come on... Belals Girl - 19/10/2017 05:12:46 PM 827 Views
HAHAHA! This from the person who can't even write a coherent post *NM* Tom - 20/10/2017 07:10:45 PM 489 Views
Oh please damookster - 19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM 899 Views
Re: Oh please Ghavrel - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM 831 Views
What is your basis for arguing that "trigger warnings" are beneficial? Tom - 20/10/2017 07:19:42 PM 794 Views
Ha! Joke's on you! We don't do interrogatories in the criminal system. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:01:54 AM 830 Views
If you are not proposing altering any literature... Tom - 22/10/2017 04:28:53 PM 814 Views
I'm just gonna put this out there... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM 811 Views
Eh, I don't think that's accurate. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:04:58 AM 744 Views
An unnecessary tool.... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 757 Views
Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue. Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM 761 Views
I would challenge that statment.... Jeordam - 24/10/2017 05:14:17 PM 952 Views
Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* random thoughts - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 457 Views
Forget it, mook. He's just being a silly, stupid kid. He should know better. *NM* Tom - 19/10/2017 06:17:28 AM 565 Views
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Interesting article. Legolas - 17/10/2017 07:41:34 PM 826 Views
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Maybe the victimhood thing is another kind of honor Cannoli - 17/10/2017 01:02:43 PM 858 Views
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I apologize before hand Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 794 Views
Only made it through page 2. Were there separate graphs for just N. American/West European nations? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:04:05 PM 781 Views
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up nossy - 17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM 1016 Views
Oh those echo chambers. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM 905 Views
I hate blaming things nossy - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 979 Views
I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase Tom - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM 921 Views
I'm not sure that is the most common choice. nossy - 17/10/2017 05:21:52 PM 1005 Views
I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM 792 Views
Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 447 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 777 Views
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But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami? Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM 729 Views
Umami is an irritating word *NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM 418 Views
Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word. *NM* LiterateDog - 18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM 527 Views
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Snorts / Laughs so hard that I almost lost the drink I was enjoying. *NM* Roland00 - 19/10/2017 06:00:47 AM 483 Views
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Agreed with all your points. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 851 Views
The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM 819 Views
My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 828 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. Legolas - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 800 Views
America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM* random thoughts - 19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM 490 Views
Yes, in some ways it does. *NM* Legolas - 19/10/2017 05:38:41 PM 486 Views
Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 857 Views
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This entire thread was so awesome.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 880 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 817 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 720 Views
damn it *NM* damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 425 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 812 Views
Maybe, maybe not... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 722 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. The Shrike - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 797 Views
I see this as... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 777 Views
I kind of break them down into two types Vodalus - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 855 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 817 Views
Definitely more than a bit. The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 747 Views
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