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Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM

The purpose is to let people know that something is coming up so that they can be aware it's going to happen. That's highly separate from the avoidant behavior that causes problems in people with anxiety and PTSD, and it's in fact useful in the early stages of exposure therapy.

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Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom? The Shrike - 16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM 2363 Views
Good article. Tom - 16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM 899 Views
Indeed it is a pathology of fear. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 01:59:24 AM 818 Views
This makes me especially sad. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:47:51 PM 747 Views
never thought of it that way but excellent points *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 03:31:51 AM 562 Views
Definitely a possibility. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:46:42 PM 759 Views
I totally agree on there being fewer causes for fear. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:39:38 PM 835 Views
Wait...you said *Rubio* was trying to push a positive, hopeful message? RUBIO? Tom - 17/10/2017 08:22:40 PM 772 Views
Maybe I shouldn't have omitted the disclaimer about his foreign policy. Legolas - 17/10/2017 08:33:37 PM 764 Views
Ok, fair enough Tom - 17/10/2017 09:15:14 PM 717 Views
Yes. I think the days of American armed intervention in Latin-America are well behind us. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:54:41 PM 735 Views
Regarding 'Make America Great Again'. Trump wasn't the first. He won't be the last. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:44:09 PM 891 Views
Do we still have WSE points? I was quite the mogul in the waning days of WoTmania. *NM* Hieshyn - 16/10/2017 11:36:00 PM 507 Views
/me steals your WSE points. *NM* The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:48:08 PM 498 Views
Interesting damookster - 16/10/2017 11:46:32 PM 809 Views
Old dude, you make a good point, too. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM 762 Views
Authority for Authority sake is just as Mores-less as No Respect for Authority Roland00 - 17/10/2017 06:07:15 AM 810 Views
All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM 462 Views
Agreed but there is a difference in severity between 1997 to 2017 vs 997 to 1017 *NM* Roland00 - 18/10/2017 05:52:14 AM 471 Views
but less than 1900 vs 1920 random thoughts - 18/10/2017 02:27:59 PM 728 Views
I still have hope The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:50:35 PM 819 Views
I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of... LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM 795 Views
So we are back in the Age of Romanticism. Western Civilization has been there before. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:58:04 PM 786 Views
This article agrees with your assessment The Shrike - 17/10/2017 02:30:03 PM 865 Views
I appreciate your amendment. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM 1059 Views
no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM 781 Views
Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. nossy - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 793 Views
Most of us are very good at that random thoughts - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 794 Views
Thanks. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 708 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 769 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 750 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 705 Views
Nods Roland00 - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 726 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 902 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 782 Views
How would you propose such warnings be worded? damookster - 18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM 754 Views
Do you know a lot of people who suffer from PTSD? Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 05:26:06 AM 930 Views
Stop. Now. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 710 Views
Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM 747 Views
You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature. The Shrike - 19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM 771 Views
That's reasonable. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM 736 Views
Third party website? I fully support that. The Shrike - 20/10/2017 12:41:33 PM 867 Views
Peace for our time! I agree with everything you wrote here. I'm always a sucker for more studies. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:03:31 AM 434 Views
Well argument settled becuase they already exist random thoughts - 23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM 679 Views
Yeah but they don't necessarily exist for works of literature usually read at the university level The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:28:35 PM 710 Views
That is true but it could fixed if there was more demand random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:00:21 PM 720 Views
I feel like I now need a trigger warning for trigger warnings. *NM* The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:48:47 PM 513 Views
Fuck you Tom Roland00 - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 871 Views
Oh come on... Belals Girl - 19/10/2017 05:12:46 PM 767 Views
HAHAHA! This from the person who can't even write a coherent post *NM* Tom - 20/10/2017 07:10:45 PM 458 Views
Oh please damookster - 19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM 833 Views
Re: Oh please Ghavrel - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM 766 Views
What is your basis for arguing that "trigger warnings" are beneficial? Tom - 20/10/2017 07:19:42 PM 742 Views
Ha! Joke's on you! We don't do interrogatories in the criminal system. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:01:54 AM 781 Views
If you are not proposing altering any literature... Tom - 22/10/2017 04:28:53 PM 754 Views
I'm just gonna put this out there... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM 742 Views
Eh, I don't think that's accurate. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:04:58 AM 681 Views
An unnecessary tool.... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 694 Views
Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue. Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM 696 Views
I would challenge that statment.... Jeordam - 24/10/2017 05:14:17 PM 886 Views
Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* random thoughts - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 426 Views
Forget it, mook. He's just being a silly, stupid kid. He should know better. *NM* Tom - 19/10/2017 06:17:28 AM 543 Views
Agreed. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM 856 Views
Interesting article. Legolas - 17/10/2017 07:41:34 PM 776 Views
Why are some HUMANS wary of freedom? Roland00 - 17/10/2017 05:31:04 AM 730 Views
Maybe the victimhood thing is another kind of honor Cannoli - 17/10/2017 01:02:43 PM 790 Views
Because it's easier to absolve oneself of power sometimes. For those people anyway. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:10:41 PM 734 Views
I apologize before hand Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 734 Views
Only made it through page 2. Were there separate graphs for just N. American/West European nations? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:04:05 PM 706 Views
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up nossy - 17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM 887 Views
Oh those echo chambers. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM 828 Views
I hate blaming things nossy - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 849 Views
I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase Tom - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM 855 Views
I'm not sure that is the most common choice. nossy - 17/10/2017 05:21:52 PM 861 Views
I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM 730 Views
Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 423 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 720 Views
You know, I'd not thought about that. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 03:07:05 AM 772 Views
I find him intriguing as a Captain. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:09:07 PM 719 Views
So now we are at episode 6 The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:31:06 PM 644 Views
6 was by far the best episode of the series. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 08:07:55 PM 440 Views
Yes The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:50:15 PM 724 Views
But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami? Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM 673 Views
Umami is an irritating word *NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM 393 Views
Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word. *NM* LiterateDog - 18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM 499 Views
*NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 435 Views
*NM* The Shrike - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 421 Views
Snorts / Laughs so hard that I almost lost the drink I was enjoying. *NM* Roland00 - 19/10/2017 06:00:47 AM 460 Views
I do think some of this is specifically American and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:26:33 PM 785 Views
Agreed with all your points. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 795 Views
The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM 757 Views
My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 757 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. Legolas - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 734 Views
America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM* random thoughts - 19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM 460 Views
Yes, in some ways it does. *NM* Legolas - 19/10/2017 05:38:41 PM 465 Views
Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 799 Views
Re: Simple, true fredom is/includes the freedom to fail *NM* HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:45:51 PM 495 Views
Yes it is the freedom to fail Roland00 - 20/10/2017 06:36:02 PM 801 Views
This entire thread was so awesome.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 818 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 750 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 668 Views
damn it *NM* damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 398 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 746 Views
Maybe, maybe not... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 651 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. The Shrike - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 728 Views
I see this as... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 713 Views
I kind of break them down into two types Vodalus - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 790 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 758 Views
Definitely more than a bit. The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 686 Views
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