America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM*
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM
View original postThough in fairness, part of that may be because America places (placed?) the limits on freedom of speech further to begin with. In here, Holocaust denial is an actual crime, and racism can be as well under certain circumstances. Homophobia is heavily frowned upon and religion isn't an accepted excuse; though on the other hand, I see much less debate about transgenderism, non-binary gender identities and so on. It would be a mistake to think Western Europe is always more liberal or more progressive on all issues than the US. It's usually less polarized though, because there is more of a consensus on many topics, with the people whose views radically differ from the consensus too small in number to have much of an impact. Abortion is a typical example - very little controversy about it by American standards, but the laws in most countries are more restrictive than in the US, being based on negotiated compromises rather than Roe v. Wade.
View original postAnother big difference is that America's political system is highly conducive to polarization into two camps, whereas most continental European countries have political landscapes with a larger number of viable parties. You still have radicalization, people railing against PC oppression, or people ranting that everyone who dares to question their socialist utopias is a fascist, but it's a bit more complex and different groups or parties may be allies on one front, opponents on another.
View original postBut anyway - admittedly I left college some years ago already and things do change quickly, but I don't think I'm that far out of touch. And I wouldn't even know what the Dutch word or equivalent is for concepts like 'safe spaces', 'microaggression', 'millennial snowflake' and the like. They aren't really things that people here talk about - not the college students themselves, and not the outsiders criticizing them. Which anyway doesn't really happen; the opinions or behaviour of college students isn't really a topic of public controversy here.
Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom?
16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM
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Good article.
16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM
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I totally agree on there being fewer causes for fear.
17/10/2017 06:39:38 PM
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Wait...you said *Rubio* was trying to push a positive, hopeful message? RUBIO?
17/10/2017 08:22:40 PM
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Maybe I shouldn't have omitted the disclaimer about his foreign policy.
17/10/2017 08:33:37 PM
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Ok, fair enough
17/10/2017 09:15:14 PM
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Yes. I think the days of American armed intervention in Latin-America are well behind us.
17/10/2017 11:54:41 PM
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Regarding 'Make America Great Again'. Trump wasn't the first. He won't be the last.
17/10/2017 08:44:09 PM
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Do we still have WSE points? I was quite the mogul in the waning days of WoTmania. *NM*
16/10/2017 11:36:00 PM
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Interesting
16/10/2017 11:46:32 PM
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Authority for Authority sake is just as Mores-less as No Respect for Authority
17/10/2017 06:07:15 AM
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All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM*
17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM
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Agreed but there is a difference in severity between 1997 to 2017 vs 997 to 1017
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18/10/2017 05:52:14 AM
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I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of...
17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM
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So we are back in the Age of Romanticism. Western Civilization has been there before.
17/10/2017 12:58:04 PM
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I appreciate your amendment.
17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM
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no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside
17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM
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Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes.
17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM
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Thanks.
17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM
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I disagree with relation to trigger warnings.
17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM
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A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them?
18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM
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I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way.
18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM
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And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings.
18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM
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Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings.
18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM
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How would you propose such warnings be worded?
18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM
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Do you know a lot of people who suffer from PTSD?
19/10/2017 05:26:06 AM
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Stop. Now.
19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM
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Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though.
19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM
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You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature.
19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM
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That's reasonable.
19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM
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Third party website? I fully support that.
20/10/2017 12:41:33 PM
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Peace for our time!
I agree with everything you wrote here. I'm always a sucker for more studies. *NM*
21/10/2017 07:03:31 AM
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Well argument settled becuase they already exist
23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM
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Yeah but they don't necessarily exist for works of literature usually read at the university level
24/10/2017 12:28:35 PM
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That is true but it could fixed if there was more demand
24/10/2017 10:00:21 PM
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I feel like I now need a trigger warning for trigger warnings. *NM*
25/10/2017 12:48:47 PM
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Fuck you Tom
19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM
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HAHAHA! This from the person who can't even write a coherent post *NM*
20/10/2017 07:10:45 PM
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Oh please
19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM
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Re: Oh please
20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM
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What is your basis for arguing that "trigger warnings" are beneficial?
20/10/2017 07:19:42 PM
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Ha! Joke's on you! We don't do interrogatories in the criminal system.
21/10/2017 07:01:54 AM
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I'm just gonna put this out there...
20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM
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Eh, I don't think that's accurate.
21/10/2017 07:04:58 AM
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An unnecessary tool....
23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM
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Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue.
24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM
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Forget it, mook. He's just being a silly, stupid kid. He should know better. *NM*
19/10/2017 06:17:28 AM
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Why are some HUMANS wary of freedom?
17/10/2017 05:31:04 AM
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Because it's easier to absolve oneself of power sometimes. For those people anyway.
17/10/2017 01:10:41 PM
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I apologize before hand
18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM
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Only made it through page 2. Were there separate graphs for just N. American/West European nations?
18/10/2017 01:04:05 PM
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I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up
17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM
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Oh those echo chambers.
17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM
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I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase
17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM
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I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well.
17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM
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Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant.
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17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM
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I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me.
18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM
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You know, I'd not thought about that.
18/10/2017 03:07:05 AM
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So now we are at episode 6
24/10/2017 12:31:06 PM
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But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami?
18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM
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Umami is an irritating word *NM*
18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM
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Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word.
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18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM
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Snorts / Laughs so hard that I almost lost the drink I was enjoying. *NM*
19/10/2017 06:00:47 AM
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I do think some of this is specifically American and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere.
17/10/2017 06:26:33 PM
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Agreed with all your points.
17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM
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The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about.
17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM
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America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM*
19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM
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This entire thread was so awesome....
20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM
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I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently.
21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM
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