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Re: Oh please Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM

View original postDon't you feel even a tiny bit ridiculous trying to seize the moral high ground in a discussion on the lack of merit in placing trigger warnings on works of literature?

Not really. I've seen people much braver than I really suffer because they were surprised by something that triggered PTSD. It's a very small thing, and it seems ridiculous to people who don't suffer from it. But it can help those who do.

"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

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Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom? The Shrike - 16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM 2576 Views
Good article. Tom - 16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM 1069 Views
Indeed it is a pathology of fear. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 01:59:24 AM 958 Views
This makes me especially sad. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:47:51 PM 921 Views
never thought of it that way but excellent points *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 03:31:51 AM 633 Views
Definitely a possibility. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:46:42 PM 934 Views
I totally agree on there being fewer causes for fear. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:39:38 PM 976 Views
Wait...you said *Rubio* was trying to push a positive, hopeful message? RUBIO? Tom - 17/10/2017 08:22:40 PM 919 Views
Maybe I shouldn't have omitted the disclaimer about his foreign policy. Legolas - 17/10/2017 08:33:37 PM 950 Views
Ok, fair enough Tom - 17/10/2017 09:15:14 PM 865 Views
Yes. I think the days of American armed intervention in Latin-America are well behind us. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:54:41 PM 905 Views
Regarding 'Make America Great Again'. Trump wasn't the first. He won't be the last. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:44:09 PM 1040 Views
Do we still have WSE points? I was quite the mogul in the waning days of WoTmania. *NM* Hieshyn - 16/10/2017 11:36:00 PM 606 Views
/me steals your WSE points. *NM* The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:48:08 PM 591 Views
Interesting damookster - 16/10/2017 11:46:32 PM 939 Views
Old dude, you make a good point, too. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM 926 Views
Authority for Authority sake is just as Mores-less as No Respect for Authority Roland00 - 17/10/2017 06:07:15 AM 1004 Views
All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM 534 Views
Agreed but there is a difference in severity between 1997 to 2017 vs 997 to 1017 *NM* Roland00 - 18/10/2017 05:52:14 AM 544 Views
but less than 1900 vs 1920 random thoughts - 18/10/2017 02:27:59 PM 880 Views
I still have hope The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:50:35 PM 994 Views
I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of... LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM 990 Views
So we are back in the Age of Romanticism. Western Civilization has been there before. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:58:04 PM 977 Views
This article agrees with your assessment The Shrike - 17/10/2017 02:30:03 PM 1061 Views
I appreciate your amendment. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM 1220 Views
no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM 942 Views
Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. nossy - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 1009 Views
Most of us are very good at that random thoughts - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 954 Views
Thanks. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 864 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 933 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 891 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 854 Views
Nods Roland00 - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 874 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 1052 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 952 Views
How would you propose such warnings be worded? damookster - 18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM 931 Views
Do you know a lot of people who suffer from PTSD? Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 05:26:06 AM 1113 Views
Stop. Now. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 850 Views
Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM 893 Views
You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature. The Shrike - 19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM 940 Views
That's reasonable. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM 900 Views
Third party website? I fully support that. The Shrike - 20/10/2017 12:41:33 PM 1054 Views
Peace for our time! I agree with everything you wrote here. I'm always a sucker for more studies. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:03:31 AM 496 Views
Well argument settled becuase they already exist random thoughts - 23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM 824 Views
Yeah but they don't necessarily exist for works of literature usually read at the university level The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:28:35 PM 854 Views
That is true but it could fixed if there was more demand random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:00:21 PM 868 Views
I feel like I now need a trigger warning for trigger warnings. *NM* The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:48:47 PM 574 Views
Fuck you Tom Roland00 - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 1019 Views
Oh come on... Belals Girl - 19/10/2017 05:12:46 PM 923 Views
HAHAHA! This from the person who can't even write a coherent post *NM* Tom - 20/10/2017 07:10:45 PM 529 Views
Oh please damookster - 19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM 978 Views
Re: Oh please Ghavrel - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM 920 Views
What is your basis for arguing that "trigger warnings" are beneficial? Tom - 20/10/2017 07:19:42 PM 904 Views
Ha! Joke's on you! We don't do interrogatories in the criminal system. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:01:54 AM 908 Views
If you are not proposing altering any literature... Tom - 22/10/2017 04:28:53 PM 892 Views
I'm just gonna put this out there... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM 896 Views
Eh, I don't think that's accurate. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:04:58 AM 832 Views
An unnecessary tool.... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 877 Views
Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue. Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM 842 Views
I would challenge that statment.... Jeordam - 24/10/2017 05:14:17 PM 1044 Views
Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* random thoughts - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 499 Views
Forget it, mook. He's just being a silly, stupid kid. He should know better. *NM* Tom - 19/10/2017 06:17:28 AM 609 Views
Agreed. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM 1002 Views
Interesting article. Legolas - 17/10/2017 07:41:34 PM 906 Views
Why are some HUMANS wary of freedom? Roland00 - 17/10/2017 05:31:04 AM 889 Views
Maybe the victimhood thing is another kind of honor Cannoli - 17/10/2017 01:02:43 PM 950 Views
Because it's easier to absolve oneself of power sometimes. For those people anyway. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:10:41 PM 903 Views
I apologize before hand Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 889 Views
Only made it through page 2. Were there separate graphs for just N. American/West European nations? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:04:05 PM 873 Views
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up nossy - 17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM 1105 Views
Oh those echo chambers. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM 1013 Views
I hate blaming things nossy - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 1068 Views
I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase Tom - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM 1021 Views
I'm not sure that is the most common choice. nossy - 17/10/2017 05:21:52 PM 1110 Views
I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM 890 Views
Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 489 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 854 Views
You know, I'd not thought about that. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 03:07:05 AM 929 Views
I find him intriguing as a Captain. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:09:07 PM 932 Views
So now we are at episode 6 The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:31:06 PM 804 Views
6 was by far the best episode of the series. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 08:07:55 PM 510 Views
Yes The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:50:15 PM 853 Views
But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami? Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM 827 Views
Umami is an irritating word *NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM 461 Views
Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word. *NM* LiterateDog - 18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM 572 Views
*NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 503 Views
*NM* The Shrike - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 495 Views
Snorts / Laughs so hard that I almost lost the drink I was enjoying. *NM* Roland00 - 19/10/2017 06:00:47 AM 535 Views
I do think some of this is specifically American and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:26:33 PM 928 Views
Agreed with all your points. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 941 Views
The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM 894 Views
My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 921 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. Legolas - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 908 Views
America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM* random thoughts - 19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM 537 Views
Yes, in some ways it does. *NM* Legolas - 19/10/2017 05:38:41 PM 531 Views
Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 950 Views
Re: Simple, true fredom is/includes the freedom to fail *NM* HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:45:51 PM 567 Views
Yes it is the freedom to fail Roland00 - 20/10/2017 06:36:02 PM 963 Views
This entire thread was so awesome.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 955 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 901 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 811 Views
damn it *NM* damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 466 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 910 Views
Maybe, maybe not... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 830 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. The Shrike - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 878 Views
I see this as... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 859 Views
I kind of break them down into two types Vodalus - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 982 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 886 Views
Definitely more than a bit. The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 828 Views
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