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The CH is a problem. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 22/01/2018 06:34:47 PM

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But, what about the "CH" sound? You'd need a new letter for that. I am for only using "C" where is needed in combo with another letter. "S" and "K" are fine for representing the sounds that "C" alone makes. Also, every soft "G" should be replaced with "J" and "PH" with "F". And superfluous letters. The word "GIRAFFE" is a perfect example. It should be spelled "JIRAF".

only way to properly represent it in non-greek origin words would be with a letter representing CH (Russian has one) or keeping the C in the language. Neither solution is elegant.

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The Fascinating History of 10 Extra Letters the English Alphabet Used to Have The Shrike - 18/01/2018 06:35:45 PM 1345 Views
I have to take issue with the & and the "long s" Tom - 18/01/2018 07:28:09 PM 660 Views
Ok, let's define what a letter is. The Shrike - 18/01/2018 11:25:22 PM 720 Views
Yes, the long "s" is just a variant. It didn't have a name in Old English. Tom - 19/01/2018 03:39:51 PM 843 Views
I don't think not having a name in Old English matters here. The Shrike - 19/01/2018 05:05:47 PM 966 Views
I think it does, quite definitively. Tom - 20/01/2018 08:46:24 PM 709 Views
All th Germans I have known have considered ß to be a letter. The Shrike - 20/01/2018 11:01:40 PM 795 Views
ß is a ligature Tom - 21/01/2018 04:04:48 PM 668 Views
That article is even sloppier than the first Tom - 20/01/2018 09:01:33 PM 662 Views
All letters were once "fake". The Shrike - 20/01/2018 10:59:11 PM 765 Views
Isn't that kind of idealist Roland00 - 21/01/2018 08:02:14 AM 691 Views
Realist perhaps The Shrike - 22/01/2018 01:54:14 AM 658 Views
Pivots Roland00 - 22/01/2018 03:43:56 AM 777 Views
Meanwhile The Shrike - 22/01/2018 12:23:13 PM 636 Views
Olympics are grand aren't they? *NM* Roland00 - 22/01/2018 05:23:56 PM 363 Views
Deutschland, Deutschland! The Shrike - 22/01/2018 05:26:50 PM 555 Views
No, actually that's quite incorrect. Tom - 21/01/2018 04:14:18 PM 710 Views
You've missed the point. The Shrike - 22/01/2018 01:53:59 AM 713 Views
No, I'm trying to show the qualitative difference between the two events. Tom - 22/01/2018 04:34:20 PM 596 Views
The letter J? *NM* Roland00 - 22/01/2018 05:19:14 PM 416 Views
No, J is a lot like the long s. Tom - 22/01/2018 07:23:01 PM 643 Views
Feels we are talking past each other. Roland00 - 22/01/2018 07:52:53 PM 743 Views
You're wrong. Tom - 23/01/2018 01:21:26 AM 763 Views
Agreed. Ligatures aren't letters. *NM* Ghavrel - 19/01/2018 06:13:43 AM 396 Views
Eh . . . the Ampersand is probably now considered a logogram rather than a ligature. The Shrike - 19/01/2018 01:27:21 PM 645 Views
ſ is just a variant. *NM* Tom - 19/01/2018 03:40:53 PM 443 Views
I enjoy this thread muchly...yet I will not participate besides saying Roland00 - 19/01/2018 10:46:40 PM 658 Views
You're using sublime too often; it's losing its luster The Shrike - 20/01/2018 12:15:10 AM 698 Views
Do I? (in regards to sublime) Roland00 - 20/01/2018 12:46:35 AM 652 Views
(in regards to sublime) damookster - 20/01/2018 03:18:04 PM 678 Views
Brilliant! *NM* Floffe - 20/01/2018 03:38:39 PM 381 Views
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*NM* globug0822 - 23/01/2018 09:18:01 PM 377 Views
Is this payback for the irritating word, Umami? Roland00 - 24/01/2018 07:25:56 AM 563 Views
Upapi? *NM* damookster - 25/01/2018 08:41:14 PM 417 Views
Thank all gods everywhere they are gone. LiterateDog - 22/01/2018 12:23:34 PM 651 Views
Some other letters should go too. The Shrike - 22/01/2018 01:12:31 PM 713 Views
How would you replace the ch sound? Roland00 - 22/01/2018 04:15:04 PM 680 Views
I'm against removing letters that have done perfectly well for over 2500 years, thank you Tom - 22/01/2018 04:41:23 PM 625 Views
And I am not. We have had this debate before. To each his own. :-) The Shrike - 22/01/2018 05:22:36 PM 627 Views
Attic Greek was written in uncials that are easy to read Tom - 22/01/2018 07:24:51 PM 632 Views
I thought of removing C, as well. LiterateDog - 22/01/2018 06:16:20 PM 654 Views
The CH is a problem. The Shrike - 22/01/2018 06:34:47 PM 577 Views
And calling people you don't like "fu king unts"? *NM* Tom - 22/01/2018 07:25:29 PM 487 Views
Meanwhile if it were written as fuking kunts, no one would have any issues The Shrike - 22/01/2018 07:54:41 PM 721 Views
I have an issue, kunts looks too much like nuts or knuts Roland00 - 22/01/2018 08:09:52 PM 653 Views
Would you prefer a Knut? The Shrike - 22/01/2018 10:55:09 PM 618 Views
Yes I like my internet memes and thus I do not want to be confused by that word sometimes directed Roland00 - 23/01/2018 10:28:58 PM 600 Views
Yes, ask him The Shrike - 24/01/2018 01:32:08 AM 625 Views
Totes I will ask him about Tot *NM* Roland00 - 24/01/2018 09:49:45 PM 406 Views
Yes, about the meanings. Pronounced quite differently. Legolas - 25/01/2018 06:17:22 PM 745 Views
Scheisse. I did forget it. The Shrike - 26/01/2018 05:24:21 PM 620 Views
You mean Scheiße? *NM* Tom - 26/01/2018 06:49:26 PM 401 Views
No. I mean Scheisse. *NM* The Shrike - 26/01/2018 07:15:21 PM 416 Views
*NM* Tom - 26/01/2018 11:07:18 PM 467 Views
*NM* The Shrike - 28/01/2018 02:15:03 AM 389 Views
all those k's.... damookster - 22/01/2018 08:23:09 PM 592 Views
So . . . no Klondike bars or Kit Kats for you. The Shrike - 22/01/2018 10:55:53 PM 710 Views
But it would look "fuking" stupid Tom - 23/01/2018 01:30:15 AM 650 Views
All languages change The Shrike - 23/01/2018 01:40:18 AM 629 Views
They change, but resistance is not futile. Tom - 23/01/2018 02:10:17 AM 683 Views
Also, you're not talking about the language changing. You're talking about changing the language. Tom - 23/01/2018 02:16:39 AM 698 Views
I am being a realist who understands that spellings change. Letters get dropped. Language evolves. The Shrike - 23/01/2018 06:53:25 PM 756 Views
It is posts like this that remind me why you are my RAFO tree Roland00 - 23/01/2018 10:29:53 PM 596 Views
Nope sadly he did not *NM* Roland00 - 23/01/2018 10:30:09 PM 329 Views
What are you talking about here? The Shrike - 24/01/2018 12:21:55 PM 638 Views
I am talking about Logograms Roland00 - 24/01/2018 09:48:48 PM 651 Views
Evolution, not revolution Tom - 23/01/2018 10:54:37 PM 745 Views
Should change occur in one's lifetime or only seen through a generational prism? *NM* Roland00 - 23/01/2018 11:07:47 PM 383 Views
I guess it depends on how long one's life is. Tom - 23/01/2018 11:39:40 PM 627 Views
It's also one of the reasons I am against the 1918 spelling reforms in Russia. Tom - 23/01/2018 02:06:34 AM 770 Views
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