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*Scratches head*... this is reasonable? fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 09/01/2019 06:35:28 AM

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Which means, it will never happen!


You think building a 20 billion dollar boondongle that will hardly stop illegal immigration is a reasonable giveaway for allowing residents to stay on because they didn't commit a crime when they crossed the border as kids?

The thing with requiring SSNs to work in exchange for letting the Dreamers stay... that would be a reasonable compromise, maybe. I still think it would be economic disaster in the long run, but at least it isn't an outright multibillion dollar expenditure on something that absolutely will not work.

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Trump Tonight - National Address on Immigration and the Wall Anonymous2000 - 08/01/2019 07:14:06 PM 672 Views
But - If you build it, they will come. Seems counterproductive then, no? The Shrike - 08/01/2019 07:41:42 PM 383 Views
Very reasonable compromise..... Anonymous2000 - 09/01/2019 12:19:00 AM 399 Views
*Scratches head*... this is reasonable? fionwe1987 - 09/01/2019 06:35:28 AM 372 Views
Illegal entry is a misdemeanor crime. So yes, it is a crime. The Shrike - 09/01/2019 02:03:45 PM 389 Views
Does that apply to children? fionwe1987 - 09/01/2019 07:21:41 PM 370 Views
Not really Roland00 - 09/01/2019 09:31:42 PM 344 Views
They, and their parents, would have been deported. The Shrike - 10/01/2019 12:55:17 AM 352 Views
People forget Obama earned the sobriquet, The Deporter in Chief. *NM* damookster - 10/01/2019 01:12:30 AM 167 Views
Dude deported millions. But the media didn't act impartially and report on it. The Shrike - 10/01/2019 04:09:58 PM 339 Views
Quotes from prominent Democrats on illegal immigration damookster - 10/01/2019 08:15:05 PM 350 Views
There's also this amazing speech from Bill Clinton (one I completely agree with). The Shrike - 11/01/2019 03:35:29 PM 337 Views
"Mens rea"+"Minor"="No Crime Committed" on the part of the minor. Roland00 - 09/01/2019 09:22:01 PM 342 Views
But any way you look at it.... Jeordam - 09/01/2019 10:33:58 PM 354 Views
Do you have a right to life, liberty, and a pursuit of happiness? Roland00 - 09/01/2019 11:48:00 PM 333 Views
Jeordam is using the law here. They don't have any rights to be here. The Shrike - 10/01/2019 12:57:41 AM 359 Views
No it is not that simple Greg Roland00 - 10/01/2019 01:37:17 AM 352 Views
It really is that simple. Take out so-called morals. Take out emotions. The Shrike - 10/01/2019 04:07:54 PM 355 Views
I hope you have a good day Greg Roland00 - 10/01/2019 04:33:06 PM 369 Views
Roland, you are talking around the point....not answering the point. Jeordam - 10/01/2019 07:05:05 PM 338 Views
The end justifies the means. / But what if there never is an end? / All we have is means. Roland00 - 10/01/2019 07:32:09 PM 352 Views
Re: The end justifies the means. / But what if there never is an end? / All we have is means. Jeordam - 10/01/2019 07:36:25 PM 343 Views
Why do I need to listen to Pelosi, why do I need to listen to Trump? Why those specific 2 people *NM* Roland00 - 10/01/2019 08:04:03 PM 157 Views
And actually, can I toss this into the ring.... Jeordam - 10/01/2019 07:10:12 PM 327 Views
Different concepts Roland00 - 10/01/2019 08:03:09 PM 346 Views
This focus on what to do about illegals already here is a tangent and not the point. damookster - 10/01/2019 08:24:45 PM 336 Views
The wall will not solve the problem of the people already here, nor will it prevent Roland00 - 10/01/2019 08:59:14 PM 350 Views
as I already stated in my reply to Greg... damookster - 10/01/2019 09:14:32 PM 332 Views
Exactly! Jeordam - 10/01/2019 10:23:27 PM 345 Views
This is simultaneously a Troll comment and an Earnest one. Roland00 - 11/01/2019 01:29:28 AM 356 Views
And what you just said is hyperbole Jeordam - 11/01/2019 06:01:23 PM 354 Views
It is a complex problem. Roland00 - 10/01/2019 11:44:47 PM 332 Views
Just putting this out there.... Jeordam - 10/01/2019 11:53:36 PM 351 Views
I absolutely agree with you that there are many far more significant issues damookster - 11/01/2019 02:41:32 AM 351 Views
Walks over to Mookie's lawn with an unopened bottle of Titos in his right hand. Roland00 - 11/01/2019 05:45:28 PM 331 Views
I would like that. damookster - 11/01/2019 06:07:32 PM 327 Views
As it should be Roland00 - 11/01/2019 07:13:49 PM 327 Views
They may not be the same... Jeordam - 10/01/2019 10:28:46 PM 330 Views
To legal outsiders it looks like a distinction without a difference Roland00 - 10/01/2019 10:56:43 PM 315 Views
I'm glad you recognized it. Jeordam - 10/01/2019 11:12:24 PM 347 Views
Are we under the belief... Jeordam - 09/01/2019 05:56:57 PM 348 Views
Not currently... fionwe1987 - 09/01/2019 07:23:43 PM 337 Views
So then no. Jeordam - 09/01/2019 10:30:49 PM 333 Views
I didn't watch it... Jeordam - 09/01/2019 04:41:23 PM 371 Views
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