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Re: The end justifies the means. / But what if there never is an end? / All we have is means. Jeordam Send a noteboard - 10/01/2019 07:36:25 PM

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Sorry Jeo I do not accept your premises.

I do not think this discussion will be fruitful and there are many other things to enjoy today, and also there is work to be done


Listening to Pelosi? "I reject your facts!"
You can reject my premises all you want. Doesn't change that they are valid on every level.

~Jeordam

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Trump Tonight - National Address on Immigration and the Wall Anonymous2000 - 08/01/2019 07:14:06 PM 692 Views
But - If you build it, they will come. Seems counterproductive then, no? The Shrike - 08/01/2019 07:41:42 PM 398 Views
Very reasonable compromise..... Anonymous2000 - 09/01/2019 12:19:00 AM 414 Views
*Scratches head*... this is reasonable? fionwe1987 - 09/01/2019 06:35:28 AM 389 Views
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Does that apply to children? fionwe1987 - 09/01/2019 07:21:41 PM 381 Views
Not really Roland00 - 09/01/2019 09:31:42 PM 356 Views
They, and their parents, would have been deported. The Shrike - 10/01/2019 12:55:17 AM 366 Views
People forget Obama earned the sobriquet, The Deporter in Chief. *NM* damookster - 10/01/2019 01:12:30 AM 174 Views
Dude deported millions. But the media didn't act impartially and report on it. The Shrike - 10/01/2019 04:09:58 PM 353 Views
Quotes from prominent Democrats on illegal immigration damookster - 10/01/2019 08:15:05 PM 365 Views
There's also this amazing speech from Bill Clinton (one I completely agree with). The Shrike - 11/01/2019 03:35:29 PM 350 Views
"Mens rea"+"Minor"="No Crime Committed" on the part of the minor. Roland00 - 09/01/2019 09:22:01 PM 358 Views
But any way you look at it.... Jeordam - 09/01/2019 10:33:58 PM 366 Views
Do you have a right to life, liberty, and a pursuit of happiness? Roland00 - 09/01/2019 11:48:00 PM 350 Views
Jeordam is using the law here. They don't have any rights to be here. The Shrike - 10/01/2019 12:57:41 AM 375 Views
No it is not that simple Greg Roland00 - 10/01/2019 01:37:17 AM 366 Views
It really is that simple. Take out so-called morals. Take out emotions. The Shrike - 10/01/2019 04:07:54 PM 372 Views
I hope you have a good day Greg Roland00 - 10/01/2019 04:33:06 PM 389 Views
Roland, you are talking around the point....not answering the point. Jeordam - 10/01/2019 07:05:05 PM 352 Views
The end justifies the means. / But what if there never is an end? / All we have is means. Roland00 - 10/01/2019 07:32:09 PM 369 Views
Re: The end justifies the means. / But what if there never is an end? / All we have is means. Jeordam - 10/01/2019 07:36:25 PM 358 Views
Why do I need to listen to Pelosi, why do I need to listen to Trump? Why those specific 2 people *NM* Roland00 - 10/01/2019 08:04:03 PM 161 Views
And actually, can I toss this into the ring.... Jeordam - 10/01/2019 07:10:12 PM 340 Views
Different concepts Roland00 - 10/01/2019 08:03:09 PM 372 Views
This focus on what to do about illegals already here is a tangent and not the point. damookster - 10/01/2019 08:24:45 PM 350 Views
The wall will not solve the problem of the people already here, nor will it prevent Roland00 - 10/01/2019 08:59:14 PM 358 Views
as I already stated in my reply to Greg... damookster - 10/01/2019 09:14:32 PM 350 Views
Exactly! Jeordam - 10/01/2019 10:23:27 PM 359 Views
This is simultaneously a Troll comment and an Earnest one. Roland00 - 11/01/2019 01:29:28 AM 368 Views
And what you just said is hyperbole Jeordam - 11/01/2019 06:01:23 PM 371 Views
It is a complex problem. Roland00 - 10/01/2019 11:44:47 PM 346 Views
Just putting this out there.... Jeordam - 10/01/2019 11:53:36 PM 365 Views
I absolutely agree with you that there are many far more significant issues damookster - 11/01/2019 02:41:32 AM 364 Views
Walks over to Mookie's lawn with an unopened bottle of Titos in his right hand. Roland00 - 11/01/2019 05:45:28 PM 349 Views
I would like that. damookster - 11/01/2019 06:07:32 PM 342 Views
As it should be Roland00 - 11/01/2019 07:13:49 PM 342 Views
They may not be the same... Jeordam - 10/01/2019 10:28:46 PM 345 Views
To legal outsiders it looks like a distinction without a difference Roland00 - 10/01/2019 10:56:43 PM 330 Views
I'm glad you recognized it. Jeordam - 10/01/2019 11:12:24 PM 362 Views
Are we under the belief... Jeordam - 09/01/2019 05:56:57 PM 362 Views
Not currently... fionwe1987 - 09/01/2019 07:23:43 PM 347 Views
So then no. Jeordam - 09/01/2019 10:30:49 PM 348 Views
I didn't watch it... Jeordam - 09/01/2019 04:41:23 PM 384 Views
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