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Trying to assign ethics to this is what makes this in a lose lose situation. Roland00 Send a noteboard - 18/01/2019 11:17:07 PM

Trying to assign ethics to this is what makes this in a lose / lose situation.

No matter the outcome it is lose / lose, but by turning this into a Nash Equilibrium (the most famous of which is the metaphor of the Prisoner's Dilemma) it "traps" the players into this lose / lose narrative even more tightly. The group always loses even if individual players may win.

How does it turn into a Nash Equilibrium? It is when you enter a game theory mindset, a sport spectator mindset, and you hash out in your head all the options, and your opponent does the same, and both of you realize you two are adversaries and there can only be one winner, and this in turn cause your entire mindset to change, it causes you to stick to your guns even more so.

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For about five minutes just now, I found myself thinking something very unusual... Legolas - 17/01/2019 08:40:46 PM 1168 Views
The second link doesn't work. *NM* damookster - 17/01/2019 09:23:02 PM 249 Views
Thanks, it should work now. *NM* Legolas - 17/01/2019 09:30:18 PM 216 Views
I guess it depends on how you look at it.... Jeordam - 17/01/2019 09:46:30 PM 465 Views
I'd have to bet on Pelosi there. Legolas - 17/01/2019 10:23:38 PM 631 Views
They're both disgusting... TyrReborn - 18/01/2019 02:38:55 AM 449 Views
The game "itself" (politics) is disgusting... Roland00 - 18/01/2019 02:47:52 AM 455 Views
But Trump can deliver the State of the Union from the Oval Office if he wants to Tom - 18/01/2019 03:58:08 AM 488 Views
Head deep up Trump's ass, I see fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 06:54:50 AM 451 Views
Presidents between Adams (1800) to Wilson (1913) delivered a written copy of the SOTU Roland00 - 18/01/2019 02:28:55 PM 711 Views
That's interesting. I wasn't aware of that. Tom - 18/01/2019 06:39:46 PM 466 Views
It can't just be delivered to the Senate. fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 08:18:56 PM 458 Views
Just use the Senate..... Anonymous2000 - 18/01/2019 08:18:07 PM 459 Views
Sure. The President can give it in the Senate and send the House a written transcript. Tom - 20/01/2019 06:31:48 PM 445 Views
It's could have been decent countermove fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 06:58:14 AM 527 Views
Re: It's could have been decent countermove TyrReborn - 18/01/2019 06:12:53 PM 473 Views
True enough. fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 08:19:43 PM 520 Views
you are probably correct thay it wouldn't have been covered, the media is that biased *NM* random thoughts - 18/01/2019 08:52:41 PM 234 Views
Biased against what? fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 09:38:22 PM 433 Views
The speaker of the house leaving the country during a government shutdown? random thoughts - 21/01/2019 07:25:32 PM 429 Views
That has to do with where she was going, I'd think fionwe1987 - 21/01/2019 08:10:35 PM 682 Views
Sorry but hiding behind the troops doesn't fly random thoughts - 22/01/2019 12:59:40 PM 454 Views
I kind of agree. Legolas - 21/01/2019 08:35:01 PM 530 Views
One thing to consider .. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2019 12:22:25 AM 472 Views
Once the pain hits enough people the blame shield will get thin random thoughts - 22/01/2019 01:20:42 PM 443 Views
The Dems may be over playing theri hands in the blame game random thoughts - 22/01/2019 01:18:20 PM 561 Views
So what about the second link disgust you? random thoughts - 18/01/2019 12:55:34 PM 454 Views
An aspect of this I hadn't thought about fionwe1987 - 18/01/2019 09:49:24 PM 453 Views
That's kind of like saying.... Jeordam - 18/01/2019 11:05:22 PM 411 Views
Trying to assign ethics to this is what makes this in a lose lose situation. Roland00 - 18/01/2019 11:17:07 PM 435 Views
what I find most problematic about the proposed wall damookster - 19/01/2019 12:24:30 AM 468 Views
That's... weird aerocontrols - 19/01/2019 07:29:32 PM 514 Views
apparently the government prevailed in other states, so there's precedent. damookster - 19/01/2019 07:57:48 PM 440 Views
Fuck 'em Cannoli - 19/01/2019 11:19:25 PM 472 Views
Fuck the histrionics dumbass fionwe1987 - 20/01/2019 03:26:31 AM 465 Views
Wow. Nargs - 21/01/2019 05:08:28 PM 458 Views
They'd tie up the amount of money owed, maybe. Not the taking. Ghavrel - 24/01/2019 04:41:39 AM 486 Views
Sorry, it is not. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2019 07:21:44 AM 445 Views
The wall won't work and the democrats are willing to shutdown the government to not have to prove it random thoughts - 21/01/2019 01:18:23 PM 407 Views
Wow. Nargs - 21/01/2019 05:14:11 PM 451 Views
That's it. You convinced me. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2019 05:51:23 PM 444 Views
Wow. Nargs - 24/01/2019 06:14:15 AM 432 Views
Why are you so angry? Jeordam - 22/01/2019 10:29:51 PM 432 Views
It IS kinda striking Nargs - 24/01/2019 06:21:14 AM 404 Views
Takification - like... to make tacky? *NM* aerocontrols - 19/01/2019 07:33:44 PM 216 Views
if anyone would know it should be you damookster - 19/01/2019 08:05:03 PM 525 Views
I don't really work in manufacturing, but yeah aerocontrols - 20/01/2019 04:32:33 PM 548 Views
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