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Stats don't tell the whole story. damookster Send a noteboard - 16/06/2020 08:06:17 PM

"There are three types of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics."

The only time in my life I felt like I had to be continually on the watch for police presence so I didn't get my ass kicked was in the late 60's - early 70's when I had long hair. Because yeah back then kids perceived as hippies often fell down and got injured while in police custody. Did it ever happen to me? No. But the perception was there.

But for black men in particular, that perception has existed unbroken down through today. We are white. Who are we to say their perception is statistically invalid therefore wrong?

How odd that here I am defending the "liberal" POV.

Mook

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I'm curious. damookster - 08/06/2020 06:59:18 PM 1476 Views
Knowledge is always uncertain, there will always be under and overreactions. Roland00 - 08/06/2020 07:06:35 PM 742 Views
I would expect so, yes. *NM* Legolas - 08/06/2020 08:00:59 PM 391 Views
That yes is for which question? Or is it for both? *NM* damookster - 08/06/2020 08:23:06 PM 405 Views
The first one. Otherwise I'd have said no and yes. *NM* Legolas - 08/06/2020 09:19:48 PM 400 Views
Yes, I believe we will... fionwe1987 - 08/06/2020 10:15:30 PM 782 Views
Why are you so invested in either closing down the country or the seriousness of the flu? Cannoli - 09/06/2020 06:37:24 PM 838 Views
Because I care about my fellow human being, cockroach. Go infest somewhere else. I'm done with you. *NM* fionwe1987 - 09/06/2020 08:35:42 PM 433 Views
Except you don't. You really, REALLY want this disease to be worse than it is. Cannoli - 12/06/2020 11:06:50 AM 779 Views
Sure. Anyone who disagrees with you wants mass poverty or mass death. No other possibility exists... fionwe1987 - 12/06/2020 02:44:08 PM 759 Views
Fionwe same as other alt-left crazies Nargs - 16/06/2020 05:24:12 PM 817 Views
I dunno what's "alt" about it. We're the mainstream. Which must scare you fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:06:44 PM 720 Views
Dissonance Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:02:08 PM 753 Views
Do you think it's possible to disagree, even vehemently damookster - 16/06/2020 08:14:50 PM 799 Views
I'm sure it is, in some conditions. fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:43:50 PM 788 Views
I am not a middle aged white man. I'm an old white man. damookster - 16/06/2020 06:15:52 PM 768 Views
Evidence is not on your side, damook *NM* Nargs - 16/06/2020 07:27:39 PM 408 Views
Much like... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 07:34:14 PM 814 Views
Statistically Insignificant Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:07:03 PM 745 Views
Stats don't tell the whole story. damookster - 16/06/2020 08:06:17 PM 722 Views
You're right but on race? Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:08:40 PM 778 Views
Yes, you're right. damookster - 16/06/2020 08:17:04 PM 712 Views
You realize that's not a contradiction, right? fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:49:56 PM 771 Views
A few points gban007 - 17/06/2020 09:29:15 PM 771 Views
I wasn't going to say it but... Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:17:57 PM 768 Views
Again: you really are a loathsome little ball of slime. Ghavrel - 10/06/2020 02:11:52 AM 732 Views
It's not my world, it's theirs. Cannoli - 12/06/2020 11:13:14 AM 759 Views
Burning down corporate stores and taking their stolen wealth is a moral good. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/06/2020 12:04:52 AM 413 Views
Stolen Wealth? Jeordam - 15/06/2020 04:50:59 PM 759 Views
How does one determine what is Original Sin? Roland00 - 15/06/2020 05:17:37 PM 757 Views
So then.... Jeordam - 15/06/2020 09:59:31 PM 760 Views
I'm uncertain if this is what Ghavrel meant, but I'd assume you don't need proof that slavery... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2020 07:59:07 PM 756 Views
So we're talking about reparations....? Jeordam - 15/06/2020 09:42:37 PM 772 Views
Why must money solve "all" issues? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2020 11:32:05 PM 751 Views
So then money won't... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:09:24 PM 788 Views
fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:29:59 PM 729 Views
Those aren't codified examples Jeordam - 16/06/2020 07:31:49 PM 763 Views
Well that's some special nonsense fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:55:42 PM 747 Views
We're having a discussion...please try and not denigrate me. Jeordam - 17/06/2020 05:26:36 PM 756 Views
But I didn't clearly state I want to denigrate you. You're inferring intent. How's that ok? fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 06:06:28 PM 746 Views
Pain and Death they *actively* choose... Jeordam - 17/06/2020 06:39:13 PM 774 Views
They make no such choice. Which is why they're out there protesting fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 07:00:25 PM 790 Views
Sigh Roland00 - 16/06/2020 08:15:12 PM 737 Views
Nah I just straight up think capitalism is evil. Reparations should be paid, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:22:46 AM 371 Views
Fair enough. *NM* fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 02:54:11 PM 399 Views
aaah... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:10:16 PM 764 Views
Re: Stolen Wealth? Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:21:32 AM 722 Views
Rather it should be The State? *NM* damookster - 16/06/2020 12:10:59 PM 392 Views
What is "the State" fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 02:57:34 PM 718 Views
my comment was directed to Ghavrel. damookster - 16/06/2020 04:49:39 PM 739 Views
You shouldn't make assumptions... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:10:02 PM 741 Views
Lemme tell you about this cool thing called syndicalism... *NM* Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 06:46:38 AM 396 Views
There's a lot I like about that... *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 06:07:47 PM 363 Views
Syndicalisme révolutionnaire, peut-être? *NM* damookster - 17/06/2020 06:29:00 PM 372 Views
I'm actually still a reformist, believe it or not. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:29:18 PM 379 Views
Bah *NM* damookster - 18/06/2020 03:36:20 PM 358 Views
I been thinking about the different religious sects of Himboism, suddenly ... Roland00 - 29/06/2020 01:30:09 AM 762 Views
The only state with legitimacy is the Kingdom of Heaven. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 08:57:26 PM 366 Views
Are we talking about the Mormon Sect? Roland00 - 16/06/2020 09:06:14 PM 688 Views
My bad damookster - 16/06/2020 10:20:14 PM 753 Views
In fairness, I usually talk policy goals as a social democrat. Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 12:34:45 AM 748 Views
They The Shrike - 17/06/2020 06:29:35 PM 763 Views
damookster - 17/06/2020 06:40:30 PM 753 Views
I go by she and her, but thank you. <3 *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:45:46 PM 401 Views
I try to be very sensitive to this. damookster - 18/06/2020 03:55:01 PM 762 Views
It means a great deal to me. I can't overstate how much it means to your grandson. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 04:04:53 PM 412 Views
Catholicism by itself is a Performance Arts Piece Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:17:45 AM 710 Views
A Catholic?! What?! I'm an Episcopalian. Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:45:24 PM 777 Views
No thanks. Not into non-democracies. *NM* The Shrike - 17/06/2020 06:26:29 PM 375 Views
Ah a fellow Devil's Party Member. *NM* Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:13:37 AM 361 Views
I can empathize with this view, actually, though I no longer hold it. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:47:24 PM 384 Views
That's the debate, isn't it. Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:16:10 PM 706 Views
Economists have been arguing this for over 400 years. Roland00 - 16/06/2020 08:22:57 PM 747 Views
You could let the market determine that, I guess. Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 08:56:23 PM 743 Views
Because we do not live in Paradise. Jeordam - 17/06/2020 05:36:58 PM 720 Views
Exactly. So the worker should own the means of production with other workers. Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 06:11:21 PM 740 Views
So my question then is.... Jeordam - 17/06/2020 06:46:11 PM 783 Views
Sigh...I just can't not. Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:20:09 AM 708 Views
You know "talent" in the Bible is explictly referring to money, right? Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:43:11 PM 775 Views
Jesus also said it is easier for a camel to pass though a needle's eye... damookster - 18/06/2020 03:49:43 PM 702 Views
This is true! Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 04:04:16 PM 761 Views
Thou shalt not steal. *NM* The Shrike - 15/06/2020 11:10:34 PM 344 Views
"Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel." *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:19:26 AM 379 Views
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's" *NM* damookster - 16/06/2020 12:13:15 PM 346 Views
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. *NM* The Shrike - 16/06/2020 12:15:04 PM 364 Views
"Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you..." *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 10:15:41 PM 381 Views
Is a concern of mine gban007 - 08/06/2020 10:16:09 PM 740 Views
A natural experiment fionwe1987 - 08/06/2020 10:42:34 PM 715 Views
Yes, we probably will. But demonstrators wearing masks are not normal life. Ghavrel - 09/06/2020 07:10:31 AM 760 Views
I'm not sure that's a valid comparison. damookster - 09/06/2020 05:57:31 PM 730 Views
Agreed. These aren't comparable situations. fionwe1987 - 09/06/2020 06:09:27 PM 750 Views
Down South that is called Communism Mookie. Roland00 - 09/06/2020 06:32:06 PM 730 Views
Alabama is down south, right? aerocontrols - 09/06/2020 10:08:15 PM 719 Views
I was comparing it to a control situation of no state action in response to SARS-CoV-2. Ghavrel - 10/06/2020 02:09:19 AM 736 Views
We have all the same rules here in Seattle Bad Ash - 10/06/2020 07:45:59 PM 760 Views
I figured you aerocontrols - 09/06/2020 10:09:36 PM 715 Views
About your original question... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 09:25:38 PM 755 Views
that is encouraging damookster - 17/06/2020 09:44:10 PM 755 Views
Re: that is encouraging fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 10:10:34 PM 689 Views
Seems indoors with strangers is more a predictor than outdoor protests. Roland00 - 27/06/2020 02:38:07 AM 825 Views
Tips, maybe? fionwe1987 - 27/06/2020 05:10:30 AM 747 Views
Perhaps Roland00 - 27/06/2020 10:19:39 PM 668 Views
A 315 city study, BLM protests did not cause a spike in COVID cases. Roland00 - 27/06/2020 10:19:05 PM 733 Views
Sigh, here is some bad news. Case Reports and a Lab study suggests COVID may cause type 1 diabetes Roland00 - 28/06/2020 06:11:45 AM 710 Views
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