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Sure, but does it even matter at this point? Vodalus Send a noteboard - 20/10/2023 05:58:32 PM

View original postFor example, some of the strongest support on the Republican side comes from evangelicals who believe this confrontation in the Middle East is part of the end of days with God on the side of Israel.

The Christian Zionists simply want to pave the way for the Parousia. After that they expect/want the Israelis to literally go to Hell. The Israelis, for their part, are only all too happy to take the money and political support provided by the evangelicals, all the while laughing at such nonsensical religious ideas. The cynicism is impressive.


View original postLikewise a lot of the support for the Palestinians from Democrats has to do with the critical theory mindset that the world is divided into two camps, the oppressed and their oppressors. In this worldview Israel, like the US, is a colonizing oppressor.

I don’t believe in that Critical Theory shit, but to say that the people living in the open-air prison that is Gaza, where roughly half the population is under the age of 18 (i.e., didn’t vote for Hamas) and yet are subject to collective punishment sounds an awful lot like oppression to me. What’s more, how can anyone think such conditions will produce anything other than some pretty fucked up people capable of doing really fucked up things? Subject any people to such conditions - whether Palestinians, Chinese, Americans or whoever - and I bet the outcome wouldn’t differ much.


View original postSaying it's all about Bibi is a little simplistic. Bibi is vulnerable once this ends. Israel has a track record of ousting leaders on whose watch successful attacks take place. See Golda Meir.

Well, let’s see once the Bibisitter is gone, if he does indeed get the boot. There are real advantages to not being a dick, but Bibi’s calculated assholery usually works well for him. Probably less so for others, though.

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I find it interesting, but sadly not a bit surprising... damookster - 19/10/2023 05:24:33 PM 732 Views
Is that right? aerocontrols - 19/10/2023 05:43:12 PM 486 Views
Re: Is that right? damookster - 19/10/2023 06:02:40 PM 480 Views
That's certainly what I'm seeing here, yes. Legolas - 19/10/2023 06:15:05 PM 527 Views
And Hamas' recording The Shrike - 20/10/2023 02:44:12 PM 478 Views
I do not know about the Hospital Roland00 - 19/10/2023 06:15:55 PM 502 Views
Schools, mosques, refugee camps, and at least one hospital were hit with airstrikes prior to this. Vodalus - 19/10/2023 09:54:15 PM 512 Views
The WSJ is reporting Saint Porphyrius church, a famous orthodox church was blasted Roland00 - 19/10/2023 10:52:58 PM 503 Views
Congressman (fmr) Justin Amash lost family members in this Church bombing, link Roland00 - 21/10/2023 05:58:11 AM 482 Views
Hospitals have external oxygen tanks and the blast was in the parking lot. damookster - 19/10/2023 10:55:58 PM 493 Views
If all of that is true, and I’m not saying it isn’t, how are 500-plus 200-plus dead? Vodalus - 19/10/2023 11:11:11 PM 489 Views
The current US intelligence estimate is 100-300 dead leaning towards the lower figure. damookster - 19/10/2023 11:34:25 PM 464 Views
The Palestinians are pretty shameless in their propaganda. Dragonsoul - 20/10/2023 03:17:43 AM 535 Views
I wish Israel had bombed that hospital, and done so intentionally. AgentApple - 20/10/2023 01:46:49 PM 492 Views
I feel for you, my friend damookster - 20/10/2023 02:47:31 PM 502 Views
Ummm AgentApple - 20/10/2023 07:30:05 PM 494 Views
People believe what their taught anti-Semitism teaches them to believe. The Shrike - 20/10/2023 02:39:19 PM 475 Views
What is amazing is how opinions here have split by party affiliation. damookster - 20/10/2023 02:53:41 PM 474 Views
There is absolutely nothing amazing about it. Vodalus - 20/10/2023 03:17:27 PM 480 Views
I believe there's a little more to it than that. damookster - 20/10/2023 03:46:24 PM 491 Views
Sure, but does it even matter at this point? Vodalus - 20/10/2023 05:58:32 PM 552 Views
Never forget The Shrike - 20/10/2023 06:16:25 PM 487 Views
Go fuck yourself Roland00 - 20/10/2023 06:43:41 PM 495 Views
Piss off Roland damookster - 20/10/2023 07:25:18 PM 430 Views
I am cursing Greg for he is one man Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:35:01 PM 501 Views
Actually I know that Israel has a right to exist and its people have a right to the land. The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:38:31 PM 461 Views
greg you are putting words into my mouth Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:44:06 PM 481 Views
Seriously Mookie listen to yourself Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:39:27 PM 489 Views
Re: Seriously Mookie listen to yourself damookster - 20/10/2023 07:45:42 PM 518 Views
Found the anti-semite. The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:30:25 PM 471 Views
I was born failed Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:32:41 PM 471 Views
Sweetie darling, The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:39:42 PM 505 Views
you are the one who is keep on bringing dionysus and the world spirit into this. You are mad *NM* Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:44:55 PM 226 Views
You think you're unique? damookster - 20/10/2023 07:40:24 PM 474 Views
So people who are 14 in Gaza, where are they supposed to go? Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:45:41 PM 455 Views
Ask the surrounding Arab countries, for once. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 07:47:13 PM 227 Views
And who killed a former president of Egypt? It was before the 14 year olds birth Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:52:23 PM 479 Views
If you're referencing Sadat, he was killed by a fellow Egyptian damookster - 20/10/2023 08:12:35 PM 495 Views
Yes I am referencing Sadat Roland00 - 20/10/2023 08:51:35 PM 464 Views
Re: Never forget Vodalus - 20/10/2023 07:09:51 PM 516 Views
One thing to note The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:35:10 PM 480 Views
Sadly, Jordan doesn't want them, any more than Egypt. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 07:49:16 PM 217 Views
Re: One thing to note Vodalus - 20/10/2023 07:51:48 PM 504 Views
Or maybe its lies spread on campuses over the past 30 years The Shrike - 20/10/2023 05:24:11 PM 474 Views
Both, and more. Vodalus - 20/10/2023 06:00:49 PM 513 Views
People believe what fits best with the ongoing narrative. Legolas - 20/10/2023 03:51:31 PM 481 Views
The first assumption that the IDF and US are obviously lying is the issue. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 04:07:29 PM 239 Views
All plays in the wider geopolitical war going on here The Shrike - 20/10/2023 05:32:15 PM 467 Views
The larger pattern The Shrike - 20/10/2023 05:29:56 PM 501 Views
I agree 100% damookster - 20/10/2023 05:45:08 PM 459 Views
Nice to see the board alive again, even for just one day. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 08:18:27 PM 249 Views
The blood always pumps due to cursed things, that or drink - *NM* Roland00 - 20/10/2023 08:40:49 PM 222 Views
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