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the names that Hamas was releasing in October Roland00 Send a noteboard - 14/12/2023 04:49:06 PM

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But that isn't the question. The question is which is more likely?

the names that Hamas was releasing in October
were confirmed to be real citizens at that time

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Democracies lie all the time with War. You lived during Vietnam mookie, I did not. You tell me what happened.

And I have no sympathy for Hamas. Tying a mother and child together with chains and then dousing them with gasoline is an unspeakable act [my brain breaks here and I am purposefully truncating my language for how it turns my stomach I can not capture this, mother and child burned to death], the people who did that deserve to burn their own horrible death.

But less than 3000 people did October 7th with their hands and weapons (sure there may have been more with the planning but I can not count those, give me a source if you have it.)






3000 people are not 2 million people, and people should not die for the crimes of another. Starvation, Disease, a Building Collapsing on you. This has happened in the thousands, I can not quantify (count) how many thousands, yet we know it is happening.

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The false narrative of the double standard damookster - 09/12/2023 02:33:25 PM 524 Views
ok *NM* Roland00 - 09/12/2023 07:27:01 PM 104 Views
Is this a good summary, NYT? Roland00 - 10/12/2023 01:20:47 AM 261 Views
It's as good as any. damookster - 10/12/2023 04:38:59 PM 209 Views
I noticed the OP was mostly opinion Roland00 - 10/12/2023 05:02:11 PM 224 Views
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Of course the pendulum will swing too far damookster - 11/12/2023 03:02:02 PM 216 Views
Re: They dug their own graves damookster - 11/12/2023 03:15:59 AM 210 Views
rhetorical question Mookie (it does not matter the answer) Roland00 - 11/12/2023 03:45:11 AM 214 Views
I have not damookster - 11/12/2023 02:49:55 PM 240 Views
Yeah that is why I asked Roland00 - 11/12/2023 04:24:40 PM 210 Views
There's a lot of double standards involved, aren't there? Legolas - 11/12/2023 07:02:06 PM 223 Views
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that has NOT been my experience Roland00 - 11/12/2023 09:18:43 PM 217 Views
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Re: Yep, I know. damookster - 12/12/2023 08:04:57 PM 209 Views
Re: Yep, I know. Legolas - 14/12/2023 01:33:53 PM 193 Views
Where do you get your stats ? AgentApple - 14/12/2023 07:09:02 AM 209 Views
the Hamas Ministry of Stats is likely an under-count Roland00 - 14/12/2023 12:57:46 PM 204 Views
Given the nature of Hamas, the numbers are likely an overcount The Shrike - 14/12/2023 01:16:00 PM 178 Views
whatever Roland00 - 14/12/2023 02:50:53 PM 191 Views
Given the choice between believing a Democracy and an Autocratic Terrorist Gov The Shrike - 14/12/2023 04:01:54 PM 195 Views
Chora I believe both are capable of lying Roland00 - 14/12/2023 04:16:14 PM 209 Views
To quote you, gurlfriend, "whatever". The Shrike - 14/12/2023 04:19:10 PM 200 Views
Obviously, anyone is capable of lying. damookster - 14/12/2023 04:30:29 PM 202 Views
You know that Roland is incapable of stating that the terrorist org Hamas is more likely to lie The Shrike - 14/12/2023 04:38:30 PM 187 Views
the names that Hamas was releasing in October Roland00 - 14/12/2023 04:49:06 PM 211 Views
What stats are you contesting, exactly? Legolas - 14/12/2023 02:12:18 PM 200 Views
Re: What stats are you contesting, exactly? AgentApple - 17/12/2023 02:34:34 PM 207 Views
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The idea is free from foreign oppression - internal freedom is, indeed, another story. Legolas - 14/12/2023 02:33:21 PM 200 Views
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Re: From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free damookster - 14/12/2023 03:32:17 PM 199 Views
Is the point to imply that 'pre-1948' meant no Israeli state at all? Legolas - 14/12/2023 03:56:59 PM 209 Views
Exactly damookster - 14/12/2023 04:28:01 PM 209 Views
Those 3 Presidents are Bureaucratic Scum. The Shrike - 14/12/2023 01:21:56 PM 211 Views
So Claudine Gay, Harvard Pres resigns Roland00 - 02/01/2024 05:55:09 PM 194 Views
Re: So Claudine Gay, Harvard Pres resigns damookster - 03/01/2024 04:38:14 PM 191 Views
Hey that’s not fair! Roland00 - 03/01/2024 10:51:43 PM 192 Views
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