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the names that Hamas was releasing in October Roland00 Send a noteboard - 14/12/2023 04:49:06 PM

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But that isn't the question. The question is which is more likely?

the names that Hamas was releasing in October
were confirmed to be real citizens at that time

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Democracies lie all the time with War. You lived during Vietnam mookie, I did not. You tell me what happened.

And I have no sympathy for Hamas. Tying a mother and child together with chains and then dousing them with gasoline is an unspeakable act [my brain breaks here and I am purposefully truncating my language for how it turns my stomach I can not capture this, mother and child burned to death], the people who did that deserve to burn their own horrible death.

But less than 3000 people did October 7th with their hands and weapons (sure there may have been more with the planning but I can not count those, give me a source if you have it.)






3000 people are not 2 million people, and people should not die for the crimes of another. Starvation, Disease, a Building Collapsing on you. This has happened in the thousands, I can not quantify (count) how many thousands, yet we know it is happening.

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The false narrative of the double standard damookster - 09/12/2023 02:33:25 PM 606 Views
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Is this a good summary, NYT? Roland00 - 10/12/2023 01:20:47 AM 346 Views
It's as good as any. damookster - 10/12/2023 04:38:59 PM 277 Views
I noticed the OP was mostly opinion Roland00 - 10/12/2023 05:02:11 PM 295 Views
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Of course the pendulum will swing too far damookster - 11/12/2023 03:02:02 PM 298 Views
Re: They dug their own graves damookster - 11/12/2023 03:15:59 AM 286 Views
rhetorical question Mookie (it does not matter the answer) Roland00 - 11/12/2023 03:45:11 AM 293 Views
I have not damookster - 11/12/2023 02:49:55 PM 316 Views
Yeah that is why I asked Roland00 - 11/12/2023 04:24:40 PM 279 Views
There's a lot of double standards involved, aren't there? Legolas - 11/12/2023 07:02:06 PM 293 Views
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that has NOT been my experience Roland00 - 11/12/2023 09:18:43 PM 298 Views
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Re: Yep, I know. Legolas - 14/12/2023 01:33:53 PM 275 Views
Where do you get your stats ? AgentApple - 14/12/2023 07:09:02 AM 291 Views
the Hamas Ministry of Stats is likely an under-count Roland00 - 14/12/2023 12:57:46 PM 288 Views
Given the nature of Hamas, the numbers are likely an overcount The Shrike - 14/12/2023 01:16:00 PM 252 Views
whatever Roland00 - 14/12/2023 02:50:53 PM 269 Views
Given the choice between believing a Democracy and an Autocratic Terrorist Gov The Shrike - 14/12/2023 04:01:54 PM 260 Views
Chora I believe both are capable of lying Roland00 - 14/12/2023 04:16:14 PM 285 Views
To quote you, gurlfriend, "whatever". The Shrike - 14/12/2023 04:19:10 PM 273 Views
Obviously, anyone is capable of lying. damookster - 14/12/2023 04:30:29 PM 271 Views
You know that Roland is incapable of stating that the terrorist org Hamas is more likely to lie The Shrike - 14/12/2023 04:38:30 PM 258 Views
the names that Hamas was releasing in October Roland00 - 14/12/2023 04:49:06 PM 283 Views
What stats are you contesting, exactly? Legolas - 14/12/2023 02:12:18 PM 266 Views
Re: What stats are you contesting, exactly? AgentApple - 17/12/2023 02:34:34 PM 281 Views
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The idea is free from foreign oppression - internal freedom is, indeed, another story. Legolas - 14/12/2023 02:33:21 PM 275 Views
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Re: From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free damookster - 14/12/2023 03:32:17 PM 284 Views
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Exactly damookster - 14/12/2023 04:28:01 PM 290 Views
Those 3 Presidents are Bureaucratic Scum. The Shrike - 14/12/2023 01:21:56 PM 287 Views
So Claudine Gay, Harvard Pres resigns Roland00 - 02/01/2024 05:55:09 PM 267 Views
Re: So Claudine Gay, Harvard Pres resigns damookster - 03/01/2024 04:38:14 PM 265 Views
Hey that’s not fair! Roland00 - 03/01/2024 10:51:43 PM 265 Views
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