This is not submitted as ironclad proof, but as an indicator, and we may discuss this further in some other regards.
Yeah, not ironclad is right. I feel like we have already been relying on flavor too much in this game ... it's gotten our Watcher lynched, for starters. So yeah, I don't find this particular piece of evidence convincing at all.
It didn't get our watcher lynched, misinterpreting evidence or making a bad call does not mean you stop looking at evidence. Both our dead players had their role powers specifically connected to their characters ability by the mod, mine is the same, my team of masons is not random people its a hero team, so is ? and fist's, so was fists ability, and every player said their role was connected to their character. We just have to remember that the connection might not be the most obvious chain of thought, and I say remember because we talked about this yesterday, we knew that was a possibility with WF, we made a call, it was a good one, it was wrong.
If people had info regarding their own roles that would have shown less obvious connections were regularly, they should have either presented it or at least not said unqualified yes when asked about it. Mine fit like a glove, my allies characters made vig unlikely and watcher more likely elsewhere, to me, and I still asked everyone. Nobody's come out since and said 'maybe I should have said no' or 'its very tangential' either. Beet even said as much to me after the lynch, para-quote '...funny/painful to watch you tell players "WF not watcher, either evil or beet horrible at role assignments', neither that or the un-paraphrased version are outright admissions the characters closely match role powers but what other proof does one need? Beet thinks all the character-power-to-role powers match. Beet just doesn't think of Deadpool as a bad guy, fair enough, I was a comic junkie like 14-20 years ago when Deadpool was appearing on covers shooting at heroes, and pwning the good guys, apparently he has had some revisionism, I still say 'Han shot first', beet presumably doesn't, etc. He didn't have Watcher because he was sneaky, he had it because he could break the fourth wall, he had his NK save because he had a teleporter, he never mentioned it, which broke the vig issue in the end because we're not killing people, we're dumping them into the negative zone... another flavor clue, our vig doesn't have to be willing to kill people in violation of the Comic Code, because we're exiling, not killing, the targets. That was a flavor clue too. How can you say we don't have them?
Flavor's important to the game, both our corpses prove that, misinterpreting the clues doesn't mean they don't exist.
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RAFO Mafia 19: Superlative Crisis! ISSUE TWO: BLACK MAGIC- WHOA, MAN!
03/11/2010 04:59:59 AM
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I see two avenues to discuss here
03/11/2010 11:41:14 AM
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I was thinking about number 1.
03/11/2010 10:00:57 PM
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Regarding 2, and let me suggets a 3
04/11/2010 02:30:41 AM
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I, personally, agree with Isaac so here goes.
04/11/2010 11:33:07 PM
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O.......K..........
05/11/2010 11:43:14 PM
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Did Fist use his power last Night?
06/11/2010 03:41:05 AM
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It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
06/11/2010 04:53:19 AM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
06/11/2010 05:30:00 PM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
06/11/2010 07:15:11 PM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
07/11/2010 08:18:16 AM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
07/11/2010 03:38:37 PM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
07/11/2010 06:42:10 PM
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Huh, well Fox straight up told us his Mason group was a 3rd Fraction on Night 1
11/11/2010 12:55:50 AM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
07/11/2010 06:16:29 PM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
07/11/2010 07:16:20 PM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
07/11/2010 09:29:12 PM
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I am about 95% sure that WF targeted me last Night.
11/11/2010 01:04:34 AM
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Interesting.
11/11/2010 02:25:07 AM
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It's certainly possible.
11/11/2010 02:39:00 AM
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Now I'm curious
11/11/2010 03:33:46 AM
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Presumably because I'm not trying to get her lynched.
11/11/2010 03:53:54 AM
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Yeah, I'm going with that #3 there.
04/11/2010 05:41:04 AM
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Re: Yeah, I'm going with that #3 there.
04/11/2010 04:18:17 PM
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a scummer got caught on day one in the tower game
04/11/2010 06:42:15 PM
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also there was that time someone said they saw a black light instead of white
04/11/2010 07:52:41 PM
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That was Hobo in DK's crossover game. *NM*
04/11/2010 08:16:07 PM
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You know we could just forget about that. I wouldn't complain.
*NM*
05/11/2010 08:35:03 PM
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Hypocop? *NM*
03/11/2010 03:20:17 PM
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So help me I will spoil the entirety of ToM, people! (not just yet, though)
10/11/2010 02:51:46 AM
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I'm pretty sure if you do, you'll be lynched. *NM*
10/11/2010 09:19:43 PM
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Vote: No Lynch
13/11/2010 12:24:43 AM
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I am very much opposed to this idea
13/11/2010 02:04:27 PM
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Then offer an alternative
13/11/2010 11:10:42 PM
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Why is an inactive likely to be a townie?
14/11/2010 04:03:35 AM
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Re: Why is an inactive likely to be a townie?
14/11/2010 04:21:12 AM
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I had no RBIRL because my computer died.
14/11/2010 06:52:56 AM
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Ah, I see you did unvote. Very well. I still got my eye on you. *NM*
14/11/2010 06:55:30 AM
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LOL - I guess this is also my informal defense
14/11/2010 08:52:56 AM
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Saying it's not out-of-character to be scummy doesn't make you any less scummy.
14/11/2010 04:33:15 PM
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Watch the difference between what he says and what he is accused of.
14/11/2010 07:08:08 PM
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After this whole argument I've had with FT...
13/11/2010 11:42:32 PM
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People who vote for totally random lynches don't deserve to win
14/11/2010 03:43:14 AM
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Re: People who vote for totally random lynches don't deserve to win
14/11/2010 02:23:04 PM
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Vote: Isaac
13/11/2010 11:58:56 PM
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Re: Vote: Isaac
14/11/2010 03:02:15 AM
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Re: Vote: Isaac
14/11/2010 04:02:30 AM
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What was scummy?
14/11/2010 04:10:12 AM
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Re: What was scummy?
14/11/2010 05:41:44 AM
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Extrmely thin
14/11/2010 06:05:32 AM
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Actually...
14/11/2010 06:55:02 AM
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Re: Actually...
14/11/2010 07:44:33 AM
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Did you guys just blitz me?
14/11/2010 11:35:58 PM
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Your not hammered yet are you?
14/11/2010 11:46:29 PM
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I think I might be, can never be sure what votes are worth in a heavy role game
14/11/2010 11:50:51 PM
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I'm potentially alive on a technicality
15/11/2010 12:02:36 AM
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Why don't you go ahead and claim then?
15/11/2010 12:11:03 AM
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Sure
15/11/2010 12:34:34 AM
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
15/11/2010 02:13:23 AM
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I think so.
15/11/2010 01:25:46 AM
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Also, I must confess...
15/11/2010 01:32:44 AM
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Re: Also, I must confess...
15/11/2010 01:58:26 AM
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Yes, I would expect so.
15/11/2010 02:22:06 AM
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Re: Yes, I would expect so.
15/11/2010 02:35:49 AM
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I'm unvoting only if the defence is really foolproof, since now no-one can hammer without instantly
15/11/2010 07:18:05 AM
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EBWOP - The "only" in the title is rebundant, it was part of different title I abandoned. *NM*
15/11/2010 07:19:46 AM
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I guess the first title stands afterall I won't automatically unvote just because none should hammer
15/11/2010 08:19:00 AM
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I'll try to help Isaac out a bit here.
15/11/2010 01:11:11 PM
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Thanks, and a question too
15/11/2010 01:30:17 PM
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Well, I'll unvote if the third mason comes forward too. *NM*
15/11/2010 03:30:36 PM
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Jeez, when it rains, it pours
15/11/2010 10:34:54 PM
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OK Isaac
15/11/2010 11:14:45 PM
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My Defense Posts
16/11/2010 04:16:41 AM
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Defense A: The Fantastic Four
16/11/2010 04:31:11 AM
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Defense B: The Numbers Game
16/11/2010 04:36:59 AM
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"What motive would a scummer have"?
16/11/2010 05:56:04 PM
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Without any further questions though?
16/11/2010 11:51:42 PM
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If you see an avalanche coming, you hop on board (NOT a metaphor).
17/11/2010 12:12:31 AM
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Defense C: The Intro Flavor
16/11/2010 04:41:31 AM
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Eh ...
16/11/2010 10:00:21 PM
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Re: Eh ...
17/11/2010 02:33:27 AM
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We'll take a look at that in turn, but first...
16/11/2010 07:01:22 AM
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Re: We'll take a look at that in turn, but first...
16/11/2010 01:40:21 PM
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Yes, that was it.
16/11/2010 09:05:04 PM
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Re: Yes, that was it.
17/11/2010 02:55:58 AM
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Not at all.
17/11/2010 03:04:50 AM
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Well, that's a borderline lie
17/11/2010 04:29:47 AM
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How do you figure?
17/11/2010 05:46:37 AM
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I'd say its pretty pertinent to my defense
17/11/2010 06:49:20 AM
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All right, fair enough.
17/11/2010 07:19:37 AM
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Thanks for whakcing me before going to bed
17/11/2010 07:39:58 AM
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By the way, I'd appreciate if no one had hammer till FT has a chance to reply and vice-versa
17/11/2010 07:46:18 AM
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I have evidence in favor of and yet against F-T's claim. Take it as you will.
17/11/2010 07:18:35 PM
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Slight EBWOP
17/11/2010 07:20:58 PM
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Re: Slight EBWOP
17/11/2010 07:24:34 PM
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Uh, that doesn't make a lot of sense
17/11/2010 07:22:59 PM
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That's fair. Sanity can actually be called into question now.
17/11/2010 07:26:34 PM
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Re: That's fair. Sanity can actually be called into question now.
17/11/2010 08:01:20 PM
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Actually that sounds a good plan
17/11/2010 08:06:50 PM
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Glad to hear you agree with yourself
17/11/2010 08:14:42 PM
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:/ Wanna mention this before I forget. Little niggling that's been bugging me.
17/11/2010 03:03:27 AM
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Ah yes, I noticed that as well
17/11/2010 04:08:15 AM
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I just caught that
17/11/2010 04:53:16 AM
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No, I don't mean Cop.
17/11/2010 05:29:36 AM
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Re: No, I don't mean Cop.
17/11/2010 05:34:46 AM
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I trust him because of the way he's been acting.
17/11/2010 06:30:26 PM
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Complete sidetrack.
17/11/2010 07:28:31 PM
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Re: Complete sidetrack.
17/11/2010 07:33:51 PM
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I can't seem to find the post about that arrangement we had, incidentally.
17/11/2010 05:38:53 AM
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Re: I can't seem to find the post about that arrangement we had, incidentally.
17/11/2010 06:04:08 AM
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Re: I can't seem to find the post about that arrangement we had, incidentally.
17/11/2010 06:25:05 AM
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Re: I can't seem to find the post about that arrangement we had, incidentally.
17/11/2010 06:50:04 AM
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In the interests of honesty, now would probably be a good time to mention ...
17/11/2010 09:22:14 PM
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What the balls?
17/11/2010 09:52:04 PM
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I still only see one way for this day to end
18/11/2010 02:02:03 PM
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Re: I still only see one way for this day to end
18/11/2010 03:18:50 PM
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Its probably the blind mason loyalty thing, but I'm inclined to trust Isaac.
18/11/2010 05:16:28 PM
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Re: Its probably the blind mason loyalty thing, but I'm inclined to trust Isaac.
18/11/2010 06:00:06 PM
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I'd also like to point out that we know nothing about you
18/11/2010 03:37:08 PM
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i don't know much about comics but
18/11/2010 05:45:10 PM
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Re: i don't know much about comics but
18/11/2010 05:49:54 PM
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They're also Marvel characters
18/11/2010 06:30:11 PM
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LOL, duly noted
18/11/2010 06:48:08 PM
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Beast is really surprisingly un-beastly.
18/11/2010 06:28:15 PM
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Sure
18/11/2010 06:42:01 PM
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Alright, to hell with this. Let's test F-T's sanity. Vote: Isaac *NM*
21/11/2010 08:29:53 PM
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Ah, the frustration vote, normally my best friend
21/11/2010 09:58:18 PM
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OK, here's a question for beet:
21/11/2010 10:37:08 PM
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You're not suggesting we lynch F-T instead of Isaac, are you?
21/11/2010 11:17:19 PM
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But we do get information
22/11/2010 12:17:20 AM
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<-- Btw, first time I got the hammer vote. My life is now complete. *NM*
22/11/2010 12:20:53 AM
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Well, congrats
*NM*
22/11/2010 12:32:34 AM
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Since this is a first for both of us...
22/11/2010 12:35:29 AM
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When someone dies, you find out their role. "Psycho Cop" is a distinct role.
21/11/2010 11:22:50 PM
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Isaac wonders how he could be lynched without scum involvement...
22/11/2010 12:00:31 AM
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Re: Isaac wonders how he could be lynched without scum involvement...
22/11/2010 12:21:01 AM
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Isaac has been lynched!
22/11/2010 03:10:01 AM
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I can't help but feel a silver bullet would have been appropriate
22/11/2010 04:11:13 AM
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I find that astounding, considering the level of suspicion generally laid upon you *NM*
22/11/2010 04:16:04 AM
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I might just mount your head on my wall
.
22/11/2010 05:09:45 AM
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I consider myself an integral part in this group.
22/11/2010 05:27:12 AM
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