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How do you figure? Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 17/11/2010 05:46:37 AM
I can't help but point out that you just posted all those options in detail here


Yes? I don't understand what you're accusing me of.

Let's look at some of your other falsheoods, both the outright and those by ommision.

You've claimed that there is a tangible difference to you between my suggesting a no lynch and voting for it, but you did it here

In that comment, in response to my saying that "...Insofar as the reason to vote no lynch instead of waiting for the deadline is to avoid wasting time and shedding bored players... a situation we clearly have here, you even say that I've favored it as a mod. I do, and you know and have shown that you know, that I do. That you dislike no lynches, does not change that I consider them the more pro-game solution than double-modkill or game death by inactivity. This is no secret, we've discussed many a time that even as a DF I will take risky action designed to keep people posting even if it draws eyes on me. I place game continuity above victory in individual games, and you know this, yet you lie outright when you say that in your eyes theirs a votable difference between suggesting and casting a vote to no lynch and you lie by omission when you imply I must have purely victory motives in mind for my actions. You also spin, because you've not explained how this scummy action I took would benefit me, you line up a series of rationales, all of which have improbable logic behind them, and say if all these are true then Isaac is scum, and when I countered them, you did not counter, you accused me of obfuscation.


I assume you're referring to this?

He asks "Is it out of character for me, as townie or scum, to discuss no lynch?" when the question is "Is it out of character for me, as a townie or a scum, to vote for a no-lynch?" and the real question should be "Is it antitown for me to advocate a no-lynch?"


I still don't see the lies you speak of. What is it about it that is untrue?

Let's take another example:

He asks "Is it out of ordinary for me, as town or scum, to worry about third party kills and to seek out third parties?" because the real question would be "Is it out of the ordinary for me, as town or scum, to deliberately not even try to find mafia?" And the answer is of course yes. Look at previous games, have you even seen Isaac say something to the effect of "I don't think we should will find mafia today, nor do I think we should even try"? And yet that's what he did with that serial killer chase.


You accuse me of the very thing you are doing. Your counter question "Is it out of the ordinary for me, as town or scum, to deliberately not even try to find mafia?" twists my original question, because in your form, seeking a third party is equal to ignoring a threat, as though pursuing a lynch on DF 1 proves I'm a scummer because I didn't pursue DF 2 while hunting DF 1. You then say in previous games I didn't said something, putting it in quotes, but you say 'something like' and provide no reference to it. But you leave out that I never said any such thing yesterday, I said the scum were shapeshifters and would match their character claims, and thus wouldn't be locatable by our character claims table, but a SK might be, this truthful and logical comment you are aware is both you then lift out of context as proof of perfidy... a lie by ommision, you never challenge the actual comment, you never even reference it, maybe because in context it is not an indicator of guilt at all?

The actual quote:
All right, so anyway, I do unsurprisingly have plots and schemes afoot but at the moment most have not yet reached 'the proper time', so I will focus on one particular avenue, which in this case was sort of a 'SK gambit'

Going into this it seemed a safe bet that our bad guys are shapechangers and already have a legitimate ID and knew they did, likely as major characters. One of them might have lied about all 4, but probably not, they likely listed their 'real' fake identity. I'm betting everyone did.

Let us assume for the moment that any role powers someone has are appropriate to their character. Now let us assume we have a vig or SK, knowing Beet, he wouldn't assign this role to a character that followed the Comics Code, which amongst other things doesn't let good guys kill people pretty much ever. I haven't done a definitive scouring of characters yet, but the perosn who most stuck out was WF, he had:

skip analysis

Anyway, that's my first thoughts, focusing in on a probable SK/vig isn't exactly ideal but realistically killing off a SK (and arguably a vig) on day 1 is preferable to catching a single scummer, since it eliminates a whole NK. And yes, I know I'm not very objective about vigs but I'll remind everyone that they have a a horrible track record with us, BA was the first vig to whack a non-townie and that was after he tried to whack the town doc, by and large our SK's and scummers have a better track record of killing off rival scummers than the vigs have. But again, there are a handful of major characters who I think would be obvious vig material, The Punisher being the blatant example, but plent yof more obvious vig candidates beside Deadpool, who is practically the poster-child for insanely homicidal third party guy.

Anyway, that's my first thoughts on it.

And yeah, to save the eventual comment, this is exactly what I'd be saying if I was the Evil Skrull Leader, I'm not, a general desire to do away with SK's and cultists is a trait I possess both when town and DF.


Now, you would attempt on day 1, and later today as well, to say that it was a sign of my guilt that I'd suggest such a path, yet as I pointed out, and you never rebutted, that claim was based off an underlying assumption I would have to do it without knowing it was a scummer tell, the original accusation puts the claim to bed, as the bolded text indicates. So I accidentally dropped proof I was scummer in the very same message I outright say it could be seen that way. That makes no sense, and yet by accusing me from a set off comments in which it was impossible to miss my saying that, you once again lift something clearly out of context in a fashion that can not be an accident. "Knowingly Presenting False Evidence" is, some might say, not particularly pro-town


Again, I have no idea what you're trying to say, and even less of an idea where I'm supposed to have lied in this. It looks like you're saying "I openly admitted that my scummy behaviour was scummy, therefore I can't be scum" but that's such a ludicrous idea I have to assume I'm incorrect. But what are you saying?

Or are you suggesting that when I said that when I said "Look at previous games, have you even seen Isaac say something to the effect of "I don't think we should will find mafia today, nor do I think we should even try"?" I meant that as a reference to this comment of yours? It wasn't, it was merely a figure of speech to represent what your actions told us in English. If I'd wanted to quote you, I would have quoted you.

Let's go to your next one, in your original accusations on me that caused this avalanche:

He says "Led a lynch on an innocent townie? BlackAdder, Check." and tries to equate this with his serial killer hunt, leaving out that they are completely different - in BlackAdder's case, he was trying to catch a ninja and failed. In White Flame's case, he was not trying to find a Skrull and succeeded in not finding one. He tries to compare killing a townie by mistake to killing a townie by intent.


Again, utter word game, and real ironic when your whole point is to accuse me of doing that. In BlackAdders case, I was trying to find a scummer and failed. In WF's case, I was trying to find a scummer and failed, SK's a scummers. You ignore again the inconvenient truth that I'd already told everyone that going for a SK was not ideal but we had a decent lead and a SK is more dangeorus than a single scummer. Again, you use a flawed argument that translates as "This cop is clearly dirty and on the take because he ran past someone who was trying to steal a car while pursuing a murderer" it sounds reasonable to people only because there's a tag at the end 'Someone shot the fleeing murderer, ending the day, and he turned out to be innocent, it was not possible to go back for the car thief' and leaves out something really vital, I didn't run past someone stealing a car, I ran past when someone yelled 'He's stealing my car' and there was no sign of who 'he' was.


Again, I don't get the lie. Incidentally, you might have noticed that even though I said I found it suspicious and scummy, I did agree with the rationale behind the serial killer hunt. You might then wonder why I'm bringing it up as evidence now. You might wonder why I didn't press for it at the beginning of the Day. Except of course that it's missing the blatantly obvious. I didn't go for the lynch until you repeated your scummy behaviour. Anyone can do something that looks scummy. But when you're doing it consistently, that's when it becomes evidence. I wouldn't be able to get you lynched on either the sk hunt or the no-lynch individually, which is probably why you try disassociating them, but together they demonstrate a pattern, and that pattern reveals your motivations, and those motivations are to not get mafia killed.

And at the end, that's all there is to it. That's why you're going to hang. And I still don't know where I lied.

Next:
He asks irrelevant questions like "Is it out of ordinary for me, as town or scum, to accuse someone on day 1?" or "Is it out of ordinary for me, as town or scum, to drop a lynch I feel is not viable?" in an attempt to get people to get in an agreeable position. After all, it is perfectly accurate to say that these are not abnormal behaviours, nor are they anti-town, and he hopes that people will use them to get a good impression of him and forget what the real point was.


No supporting evidence of that claim, you just say 'irrelevant' and bypass it, but its pretty relevant and you know it. You use both the day 1 vote and the day 1 non-vote for ? as evidence against me originally, yet when I point outthat is normal, instead of ceding the point as a flaw in your original accusation, you ignore that it was part of your accusation and accuse me of obfuscation by pointing it out.


Okay, stop. Not only is that not a lie from me, it's a lie from you. It is irrelevant. The equivalent of being accused of murder and saying "I fed my cat yesterday, is that murder?" It is completely and entirely irrelevant. Nobody said you were scum because you "accused somebody on day 1". And yet you try to use that as a defence. Nobody accused you of being scum for "dropping a lynch you felt was not viable" and yet you try to use that as a defence. And so on. It's blatant misdirection, and I won't have you calling me a liar because I called you out on it.

Next:
Isaac writes in an attempt to obfuscate the issue. The facts are plain and simple: in the span of two days, Isaac has deliberately voted to protect the mafia from lynching.


In a post that is loaded with spin and obfuscation, you accuse me of doing it the whole while, then say I deliberately voted to protect the mafia. Yet your sole evidence of such a vote is that I went after a probable SK, needless to say, that's hardly anti-town, but certainly no more anti-town then everyone who voted for the lynch without pursuing other leads. That's a far more obvious scummer tell, I tell people I don't think the lynch is viable anymore on day 1 and we need to pursue other leads, I suggest some, and WF gets whacked in a few hours. You avoid all mention of that aspect of things repeatedly, that an avalanche vote off my suggestion we pursue other routes is not only bizarre, but utterly smashes the 'SK as distraction' concept.


Of course I avoid mention of that, the last thing this game needs is for people to lose focus. I did not always, however. Before you became the sole subject of attention, you will recall that I did say this after all. I imagine if you were me, you'd be calling that a lie?

Seriously, this entire post is disappointing. You can't put up a sign saying "Fanatic-Templar caught in a(n almost) lie!" and then not give a show. Barring that one bit above, this was more confusing that outraging. I think you might be panicking.
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RAFO Mafia 19: Superlative Crisis! ISSUE TWO: BLACK MAGIC- WHOA, MAN! - 03/11/2010 04:59:59 AM 2840 Views
Voting record- Isaac has been lynched - 03/11/2010 05:02:04 AM 1142 Views
I see two avenues to discuss here - 03/11/2010 11:41:14 AM 1067 Views
I was thinking about number 1. - 03/11/2010 10:00:57 PM 1078 Views
Same, it's a promising possible lead but... - 04/11/2010 01:15:44 AM 1096 Views
Re: Same, it's a promising possible lead but... - 05/11/2010 08:04:09 PM 1113 Views
Regarding 2, and let me suggets a 3 - 04/11/2010 02:30:41 AM 1130 Views
Maybe he did that thing where he pulled all actions to himself. - 04/11/2010 03:08:40 AM 1140 Views
Hmmm - 04/11/2010 08:34:34 PM 1671 Views
Me. *NM* - 04/11/2010 08:35:09 PM 615 Views
Re: Hmmm - 05/11/2010 08:11:24 PM 1188 Views
Re: Hmmm - 05/11/2010 08:33:02 PM 1063 Views
I, personally, agree with Isaac so here goes. - 04/11/2010 11:33:07 PM 1048 Views
O.......K.......... - 05/11/2010 11:43:14 PM 1011 Views
Did Fist use his power last Night? - 06/11/2010 03:41:05 AM 1065 Views
It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 06/11/2010 04:53:19 AM 1067 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 06/11/2010 05:30:00 PM 1052 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 06/11/2010 07:15:11 PM 1087 Views
Well. - 06/11/2010 07:40:33 PM 1020 Views
LOL - 07/11/2010 03:10:03 AM 1070 Views
Re: LOL - 07/11/2010 08:18:21 AM 1052 Views
Nice - 07/11/2010 05:31:43 PM 1082 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 08:18:16 AM 1137 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 03:38:37 PM 1155 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 06:42:10 PM 1125 Views
Huh, well Fox straight up told us his Mason group was a 3rd Fraction on Night 1 - 11/11/2010 12:55:50 AM 1082 Views
Yeah that was humorous to watch - 11/11/2010 04:16:34 AM 1112 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 06:16:29 PM 1151 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 07:16:20 PM 1082 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 09:29:12 PM 1196 Views
Right. One last thing then. - 08/11/2010 07:35:39 AM 1148 Views
Re: Right. One last thing then. - 08/11/2010 10:24:06 AM 1104 Views
I am about 95% sure that WF targeted me last Night. - 11/11/2010 01:04:34 AM 1148 Views
Re: I am about 95% sure that WF targeted me last Night. - 11/11/2010 02:23:14 AM 1203 Views
- 11/11/2010 02:25:58 AM 889 Views
Of course, I meant Fist. - 11/11/2010 02:30:10 AM 1099 Views
Interesting. - 11/11/2010 02:25:07 AM 1085 Views
It's certainly possible. - 11/11/2010 02:39:00 AM 1098 Views
Now I'm curious - 11/11/2010 03:33:46 AM 1150 Views
Presumably because I'm not trying to get her lynched. - 11/11/2010 03:53:54 AM 1132 Views
Yeah, this basically. - 11/11/2010 04:02:47 AM 1085 Views
A lot of recent games have been role-heavy. - 11/11/2010 09:12:42 PM 1125 Views
I actually don't know. - 06/11/2010 11:43:33 AM 1085 Views
Yeah, I'm going with that #3 there. - 04/11/2010 05:41:04 AM 1150 Views
Re: Yeah, I'm going with that #3 there. - 04/11/2010 04:18:17 PM 1208 Views
a scummer got caught on day one in the tower game - 04/11/2010 06:42:15 PM 1137 Views
also there was that time someone said they saw a black light instead of white - 04/11/2010 07:52:41 PM 1066 Views
That was Hobo in DK's crossover game. *NM* - 04/11/2010 08:16:07 PM 593 Views
You know we could just forget about that. I wouldn't complain. *NM* - 05/11/2010 08:35:03 PM 646 Views
Sorry, not likely. *NM* - 05/11/2010 09:58:36 PM 679 Views
Hypocop? *NM* - 03/11/2010 03:20:17 PM 650 Views
Sure. Isaac = Skrull. *NM* - 04/11/2010 05:42:45 AM 557 Views
? = hero *NM* - 04/11/2010 09:40:40 AM 671 Views
Bergioyn - Skrull *NM* - 04/11/2010 12:57:53 PM 590 Views
Isaac - skrull *NM* - 04/11/2010 01:05:38 PM 617 Views
Yunalesca = hero *NM* - 04/11/2010 03:26:53 PM 556 Views
Ranagrande = hero. *NM* - 04/11/2010 03:55:14 PM 721 Views
Hobo - Innocent + read this before you HC if you haven't already - 04/11/2010 08:25:26 PM 1057 Views
On which to pick for oddballs - 04/11/2010 08:28:25 PM 1032 Views
Darth Katie-Skrull *NM* - 04/11/2010 08:39:00 PM 638 Views
Fox - hero *NM* - 04/11/2010 08:46:07 PM 544 Views
I SPLOG'd Darth_Katie and found her not Skrull. *NM* - 05/11/2010 07:50:35 PM 631 Views
Hypocop (Table) - 04/11/2010 06:02:51 AM 1038 Views
Before I forget RBIRL - 04/11/2010 04:19:20 PM 1083 Views
still RBIRL - 05/11/2010 08:13:35 PM 1052 Views
still here! - 06/11/2010 06:35:44 PM 984 Views
RBIRL - exams ... - 08/11/2010 12:24:06 AM 1006 Views
After Tuesday I will be back in full force. *NM* - 11/11/2010 05:20:49 PM 602 Views
RBIRL *NM* - 09/11/2010 03:33:18 PM 547 Views
I'm here. - 09/11/2010 04:51:58 PM 1073 Views
So help me I will spoil the entirety of ToM, people! (not just yet, though) - 10/11/2010 02:51:46 AM 1022 Views
Ahhhhh!! No! - 10/11/2010 04:38:51 AM 1020 Views
i'm awake *NM* - 10/11/2010 09:48:06 AM 609 Views
I'm pretty sure if you do, you'll be lynched. *NM* - 10/11/2010 09:19:43 PM 601 Views
Or worse. - 10/11/2010 10:51:52 PM 1046 Views
I can't be lynched! Bwahahah *NM* - 10/11/2010 11:38:04 PM 634 Views
but lynching the mod is fun! - 11/11/2010 03:35:51 AM 1045 Views
I'm still here, btw. - 11/11/2010 09:32:46 AM 1073 Views
I'm not reading ToM - 12/11/2010 02:11:48 AM 1049 Views
i'm not either - 12/11/2010 10:03:44 AM 1008 Views
You know, you guys are free to discuss things on your own. - 12/11/2010 07:05:51 PM 977 Views
Vote: No Lynch - 13/11/2010 12:24:43 AM 1090 Views
We can do that? - 13/11/2010 12:50:57 AM 1024 Views
Vote: No lynch *NM* - 13/11/2010 12:51:20 AM 572 Views
Sure, I'll allow Vote: No Lynch *NM* - 13/11/2010 12:51:56 AM 531 Views
I am very much opposed to this idea - 13/11/2010 02:04:27 PM 1043 Views
I do agree with you... - 13/11/2010 05:36:38 PM 1042 Views
Then offer an alternative - 13/11/2010 11:10:42 PM 1083 Views
Why is an inactive likely to be a townie? - 14/11/2010 04:03:35 AM 1002 Views
Re: Why is an inactive likely to be a townie? - 14/11/2010 04:21:12 AM 1070 Views
I had no RBIRL because my computer died. - 14/11/2010 06:52:56 AM 995 Views
Ah, I see you did unvote. Very well. I still got my eye on you. *NM* - 14/11/2010 06:55:30 AM 548 Views
LOL - I guess this is also my informal defense - 14/11/2010 08:52:56 AM 1055 Views
Saying it's not out-of-character to be scummy doesn't make you any less scummy. - 14/11/2010 04:33:15 PM 1069 Views
Watch the difference between what he says and what he is accused of. - 14/11/2010 07:08:08 PM 996 Views
These are very good points. *NM* - 14/11/2010 08:35:56 PM 560 Views
Yes. Vote: Isaac *NM* - 14/11/2010 08:38:38 PM 616 Views
Yup. Unvote: No lynch. Vote Isaac *NM* - 14/11/2010 10:06:19 PM 652 Views
After this whole argument I've had with FT... - 13/11/2010 11:42:32 PM 1025 Views
Re: After this whole argument I've had with FT... - 13/11/2010 11:53:56 PM 1049 Views
People who vote for totally random lynches don't deserve to win - 14/11/2010 03:43:14 AM 1034 Views
Re: People who vote for totally random lynches don't deserve to win - 14/11/2010 02:23:04 PM 1192 Views
I'm completely on F-T's side of this debate. - 14/11/2010 03:56:32 AM 1057 Views
Vote: Isaac - 13/11/2010 11:58:56 PM 1121 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 14/11/2010 03:02:15 AM 1042 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 14/11/2010 04:02:30 AM 1108 Views
What was scummy? - 14/11/2010 04:10:12 AM 1136 Views
Re: What was scummy? - 14/11/2010 05:41:44 AM 1060 Views
Extrmely thin - 14/11/2010 06:05:32 AM 1211 Views
You're kidding, right? - 14/11/2010 06:44:50 AM 1003 Views
Actually... - 14/11/2010 06:55:02 AM 1133 Views
Re: Actually... - 14/11/2010 07:44:33 AM 1073 Views
I'm saying that no, it isn't quite anti-town... - 14/11/2010 04:34:59 PM 892 Views
A SK hurts both the Mafia and the Town - 14/11/2010 05:38:29 PM 1056 Views
Re: Actually... - 14/11/2010 07:00:35 PM 1088 Views
I must say, I'm a little suspicious of Isaac now. - 14/11/2010 07:03:46 PM 1028 Views
Fine. - 14/11/2010 07:10:19 PM 1077 Views
Re: Fine. - 14/11/2010 08:07:02 PM 1026 Views
Forget my earlier message. Vote: Isaac - 14/11/2010 08:35:49 PM 1113 Views
Vote: Isaac - 14/11/2010 10:04:53 PM 960 Views
I think he is at L-1 now. - 14/11/2010 11:02:33 PM 1071 Views
Hmmm - 14/11/2010 11:05:08 PM 1112 Views
Did you guys just blitz me? - 14/11/2010 11:35:58 PM 1125 Views
Your not hammered yet are you? - 14/11/2010 11:46:29 PM 1034 Views
I'm potentially alive on a technicality - 15/11/2010 12:02:36 AM 945 Views
Why don't you go ahead and claim then? - 15/11/2010 12:11:03 AM 1064 Views
Sure - 15/11/2010 12:34:34 AM 1035 Views
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm... - 15/11/2010 02:13:23 AM 1130 Views
Well, let me shed a bit more light - 15/11/2010 04:22:36 AM 1077 Views
Unvote: Isaac *NM* - 16/11/2010 09:26:09 PM 660 Views
Oh come one really? *NM* - 15/11/2010 02:06:56 AM 592 Views
Come on. That said come on not one....sigh... *NM* - 15/11/2010 02:07:46 AM 563 Views
Hey, I'm hanging on by my fingertips here - 15/11/2010 02:33:03 AM 977 Views
I think so. - 15/11/2010 01:25:46 AM 1006 Views
Also, I must confess... - 15/11/2010 01:32:44 AM 1030 Views
Re: Also, I must confess... - 15/11/2010 01:58:26 AM 1139 Views
Yes, I would expect so. - 15/11/2010 02:22:06 AM 974 Views
Re: Yes, I would expect so. - 15/11/2010 02:35:49 AM 1092 Views
Oh man, was that game embarrassing. - 15/11/2010 03:24:16 AM 1112 Views
Yeah, not my best performance either *NM* - 15/11/2010 03:56:09 AM 547 Views
Re: I think so. - 15/11/2010 01:46:38 AM 1006 Views
Eh, I guess I could. - 15/11/2010 02:24:23 AM 1069 Views
I'll try to help Isaac out a bit here. - 15/11/2010 01:11:11 PM 910 Views
Thanks, and a question too - 15/11/2010 01:30:17 PM 988 Views
Answer's no. *NM* - 15/11/2010 01:42:56 PM 578 Views
All right, thanks - 15/11/2010 02:17:27 PM 1127 Views
Well, I'll unvote if the third mason comes forward too. *NM* - 15/11/2010 03:30:36 PM 619 Views
I'm the third member. *NM* - 15/11/2010 07:04:24 PM 525 Views
Okay. Unvote: Isaac *NM* - 15/11/2010 09:36:19 PM 594 Views
Tangential side post - 15/11/2010 02:00:54 PM 1135 Views
Jeez, when it rains, it pours - 15/11/2010 10:34:54 PM 941 Views
OK, the ruling: - 15/11/2010 11:26:42 PM 1019 Views
I also unvoted a while back. - 16/11/2010 12:57:07 AM 1069 Views
OK Isaac - 15/11/2010 11:14:45 PM 995 Views
Okay, first lets do something else - 16/11/2010 01:24:25 AM 1073 Views
I see two thematic options - 16/11/2010 02:22:00 AM 1099 Views
My Defense Posts - 16/11/2010 04:16:41 AM 987 Views
Defense A: The Fantastic Four - 16/11/2010 04:31:11 AM 1051 Views
Some supporting evidence - 16/11/2010 05:29:14 AM 1027 Views
Re: Some supporting evidence - 16/11/2010 11:35:31 PM 1037 Views
Defense B: The Numbers Game - 16/11/2010 04:36:59 AM 1043 Views
"What motive would a scummer have"? - 16/11/2010 05:56:04 PM 1027 Views
Without any further questions though? - 16/11/2010 11:51:42 PM 1106 Views
If you see an avalanche coming, you hop on board (NOT a metaphor). - 17/11/2010 12:12:31 AM 1008 Views
Good point. - 17/11/2010 01:29:11 AM 1139 Views
Re: "What motive would a scummer have"? - 17/11/2010 02:48:35 AM 1056 Views
I think boredom might be a large factor as well - 17/11/2010 12:58:45 AM 1029 Views
Re: I think boredom might be a large factor as well - 17/11/2010 03:16:12 AM 999 Views
I said before I have no real reason to trust him - 17/11/2010 01:13:23 PM 1021 Views
Defense C: The Intro Flavor - 16/11/2010 04:41:31 AM 1150 Views
Eh ... - 16/11/2010 10:00:21 PM 995 Views
Re: Eh ... - 17/11/2010 02:33:27 AM 1032 Views
Yes, well when the clues are so easily misinterpreted - 17/11/2010 03:54:37 AM 1028 Views
Re: Yes, well when the clues are so easily misinterpreted - 17/11/2010 04:56:51 AM 990 Views
We'll take a look at that in turn, but first... - 16/11/2010 07:01:22 AM 1078 Views
Re: We'll take a look at that in turn, but first... - 16/11/2010 01:40:21 PM 1013 Views
Yes, that was it. - 16/11/2010 09:05:04 PM 1010 Views
Re: Yes, that was it. - 17/11/2010 02:55:58 AM 1026 Views
Not at all. - 17/11/2010 03:04:50 AM 1028 Views
Well, that's a borderline lie - 17/11/2010 04:29:47 AM 1098 Views
How do you figure? - 17/11/2010 05:46:37 AM 1000 Views
I'd say its pretty pertinent to my defense - 17/11/2010 06:49:20 AM 987 Views
Okay ??? - 17/11/2010 06:56:06 AM 979 Views
All right, fair enough. - 17/11/2010 07:19:37 AM 1107 Views
Thanks for whakcing me before going to bed - 17/11/2010 07:39:58 AM 1042 Views
By the way, I'd appreciate if no one had hammer till FT has a chance to reply and vice-versa - 17/11/2010 07:46:18 AM 1017 Views
Yeah, I'm pretty much ready to vote for you. - 17/11/2010 06:38:50 PM 1016 Views
Try this option - 17/11/2010 08:03:25 AM 990 Views
There are a lot of bizarre roles in this game. - 17/11/2010 06:35:24 PM 1051 Views
Also can't help but point out - 17/11/2010 08:15:51 AM 1132 Views
Yeah, this is completely expected. - 17/11/2010 06:49:03 PM 1211 Views
I have evidence in favor of and yet against F-T's claim. Take it as you will. - 17/11/2010 07:18:35 PM 1087 Views
Slight EBWOP - 17/11/2010 07:20:58 PM 1085 Views
Re: Slight EBWOP - 17/11/2010 07:24:34 PM 993 Views
Eh? - 17/11/2010 07:30:42 PM 1054 Views
Oh, I get ya - 17/11/2010 07:36:44 PM 1015 Views
I did not know I had been tracked. - 17/11/2010 07:44:00 PM 1030 Views
Uh, that doesn't make a lot of sense - 17/11/2010 07:22:59 PM 1070 Views
That's fair. Sanity can actually be called into question now. - 17/11/2010 07:26:34 PM 1012 Views
This discussion should probably extend a bit - Unvote *NM* - 17/11/2010 07:27:16 PM 654 Views
Re: That's fair. Sanity can actually be called into question now. - 17/11/2010 08:01:20 PM 1064 Views
Actually that sounds a good plan - 17/11/2010 08:06:50 PM 1006 Views
Glad to hear you agree with yourself - 17/11/2010 08:14:42 PM 1086 Views
You've already claimed. - 17/11/2010 08:43:43 PM 1122 Views
Don't want a claim, not to claim. - 17/11/2010 08:50:29 PM 1013 Views
More talking about encryption than reveal - 17/11/2010 09:08:58 PM 1073 Views
I don't think so. - 17/11/2010 08:09:22 PM 1058 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 17/11/2010 08:52:49 PM 547 Views
All right then. - 17/11/2010 12:27:49 AM 1112 Views
Vote: Isaac - 17/11/2010 12:45:26 AM 972 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 17/11/2010 02:05:03 AM 1056 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 17/11/2010 03:12:21 AM 1141 Views
Oh and also, just to let you all know - 17/11/2010 01:03:30 AM 1010 Views
:/ Wanna mention this before I forget. Little niggling that's been bugging me. - 17/11/2010 03:03:27 AM 1019 Views
Hah. I'd forgotten about that. - 17/11/2010 03:35:21 AM 1064 Views
Aaand... my suspicions of you are cleared. *NM* - 17/11/2010 03:42:06 AM 643 Views
Ah yes, I noticed that as well - 17/11/2010 04:08:15 AM 1014 Views
I just caught that - 17/11/2010 04:53:16 AM 1129 Views
No, I don't mean Cop. - 17/11/2010 05:29:36 AM 1024 Views
Re: No, I don't mean Cop. - 17/11/2010 05:34:46 AM 1049 Views
Yeah, this I'm keeping for tomorrow. - 17/11/2010 05:39:56 AM 1019 Views
Re: Yeah, this I'm keeping for tomorrow. - 17/11/2010 06:52:39 AM 881 Views
I trust him because of the way he's been acting. - 17/11/2010 06:30:26 PM 1099 Views
Re: I trust him because of the way he's been acting. - 17/11/2010 07:09:14 PM 1112 Views
Complete sidetrack. - 17/11/2010 07:28:31 PM 1105 Views
Re: Complete sidetrack. - 17/11/2010 07:33:51 PM 975 Views
Ask Katie. - 17/11/2010 08:00:16 PM 1087 Views
My tenuous grasp of the English language. - 17/11/2010 08:47:23 PM 981 Views
Well this has all been very interesting. - 17/11/2010 04:48:20 PM 999 Views
In the interests of honesty, now would probably be a good time to mention ... - 17/11/2010 09:22:14 PM 1026 Views
What the balls? - 17/11/2010 09:52:04 PM 1049 Views
My role is a hybrid ... - 17/11/2010 10:07:39 PM 957 Views
Aye. What else can Hawkeye do? - 17/11/2010 10:10:46 PM 1067 Views
Re: What the balls? - 17/11/2010 10:17:00 PM 1056 Views
RBIRL - 17/11/2010 10:36:13 PM 1133 Views
Quick note- make sure your vote is counted - 18/11/2010 01:09:22 AM 1031 Views
I unvoted. - 18/11/2010 01:39:20 AM 1070 Views
I still only see one way for this day to end - 18/11/2010 02:02:03 PM 999 Views
You're right, and I'm tired of waiting. - 18/11/2010 03:11:30 PM 1217 Views
Re: I still only see one way for this day to end - 18/11/2010 03:18:50 PM 975 Views
Re: I still only see one way for this day to end - 19/11/2010 03:48:52 PM 1005 Views
Your accusation on ? seems a little unrealistic - 19/11/2010 06:34:54 PM 1007 Views
I'd also like to point out that we know nothing about you - 18/11/2010 03:37:08 PM 982 Views
i don't know much about comics but - 18/11/2010 05:45:10 PM 1032 Views
Re: i don't know much about comics but - 18/11/2010 05:49:54 PM 929 Views
They're also Marvel characters - 18/11/2010 06:30:11 PM 1067 Views
LOL, duly noted - 18/11/2010 06:48:08 PM 1070 Views
So what? So was Iron Man, kinda. *NM* - 18/11/2010 06:54:37 PM 587 Views
Well, many have been - 18/11/2010 07:10:00 PM 1076 Views
Beast is really surprisingly un-beastly. - 18/11/2010 06:28:15 PM 1060 Views
Sure - 18/11/2010 06:42:01 PM 1042 Views
I'm just saying, you're jumping to conclusions. - 18/11/2010 06:50:44 PM 989 Views
I'm hardly alone in that - 18/11/2010 07:05:56 PM 1054 Views
No, I think I'll leave it at that for now. - 19/11/2010 02:04:09 PM 1017 Views
Hello All - 20/11/2010 12:40:13 AM 1043 Views
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that - 20/11/2010 12:13:12 PM 952 Views
Yikes! - 20/11/2010 05:45:36 PM 994 Views
Here's where I stand now - 20/11/2010 12:18:36 PM 1030 Views
Yeah, I pretty much agree with Fox. - 20/11/2010 12:42:01 PM 1141 Views
I'll be gone this weekend. *NM* - 20/11/2010 06:14:00 PM 626 Views
I don't know what to do. - 20/11/2010 09:30:04 PM 1006 Views
Here! here! - 22/11/2010 12:07:31 AM 1059 Views
Alright, to hell with this. Let's test F-T's sanity. Vote: Isaac *NM* - 21/11/2010 08:29:53 PM 612 Views
Ah, the frustration vote, normally my best friend - 21/11/2010 09:58:18 PM 993 Views
OK, here's a question for beet: - 21/11/2010 10:37:08 PM 1021 Views
You're not suggesting we lynch F-T instead of Isaac, are you? - 21/11/2010 11:17:19 PM 1003 Views
But we do get information - 22/11/2010 12:17:20 AM 1017 Views
<-- Btw, first time I got the hammer vote. My life is now complete. *NM* - 22/11/2010 12:20:53 AM 607 Views
Well, congrats *NM* - 22/11/2010 12:32:34 AM 649 Views
Since this is a first for both of us... - 22/11/2010 12:35:29 AM 996 Views
You gave us a good run. - 22/11/2010 03:45:57 AM 1037 Views
Yeah, it was a good siege - 22/11/2010 04:10:01 AM 1043 Views
Can you explain this LyLo again? - 21/11/2010 11:32:10 PM 1121 Views
It's a reasonable possibility - 22/11/2010 12:31:00 AM 1020 Views
Re: Ah, the frustration vote, normally my best friend - 21/11/2010 11:45:07 PM 1161 Views
Isaac wonders how he could be lynched without scum involvement... - 22/11/2010 12:00:31 AM 964 Views
Well, his "allies" openly iclude me and Hobo - 22/11/2010 12:19:20 AM 1090 Views
Isaac has been lynched! - 22/11/2010 03:10:01 AM 919 Views
*NM* - 22/11/2010 03:39:53 AM 559 Views
I can't help but feel a silver bullet would have been appropriate - 22/11/2010 04:11:13 AM 932 Views
I might just mount your head on my wall . - 22/11/2010 05:09:45 AM 1115 Views
I consider myself an integral part in this group. - 22/11/2010 05:27:12 AM 1109 Views
Ooh, what do I get? *NM* - 22/11/2010 06:03:07 AM 553 Views
His silver tongue *NM* - 22/11/2010 06:09:22 AM 611 Views
*NM* - 22/11/2010 06:45:27 AM 540 Views
- 22/11/2010 04:24:44 AM 999 Views
So you killed him while I was a sleep? I wanted to hammer.... - 22/11/2010 07:55:41 AM 997 Views
I may have to ignore my gut from now on. *NM* - 22/11/2010 06:39:48 PM 629 Views
Woohoo! Classes are cancelled!! - 23/11/2010 06:44:12 PM 1011 Views

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