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Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM
I really didn't expect a scummer to go inactive like that, but more importantly, I was hoping we could get him as a modkill, which would have made him a bonus to someone else.

But it's true, I would totally have bussed Rana at that point, without the slightest hesitation.

We can be pretty much certain that Yuna is who she claims to be, and if we're ever searching for Serial Killers she'll be my top suspect again, but right now we don't even know that we have one of those, and the lack of night kill seems to imply that we don't. So as far as I'm concerned she is off-limits with regards to lynching.

Besides, her power probably makes her harder to lynch anyway.

Everything that applied to Taiga yesterday still applies today, but from the very little I've seen of the show, he roleclaimed pretty much exactly what I expected, and the claim is major enough that I don't expect it to be fake. Of course, Angel also has enough history that it could be a completely truthful roleclaim and still be scum.

But as of right now, I'm leaning against yesterday's top contenders. Next on the list was me, but obviously I'm not going to vote for myself :P.

The problem with the voting record here is that I generally don't count voting for inactives as especially meaningful. It's an easy vote to make - the target doesn't defend himself, it's easy to self-justify because even if he does turn out not to be scum (which is usually the case) then he was still acting antitown by draining the town's voting capacity, and scum are really not going to hesitate much in trying to improve their image by dropping the dead weight.

Which brings me to my own favourite suspect: Isaac.

I'm not seeing the case on Yuna or Taiga and it would have to be medium strong to get me to vote for a new player on Day 1


Not lynching new players (or Yunalesca again) is a sentiment I can understand, but from there to claiming that he "doesn't see the case on Yuna or Taiga" is quite a stretch. Both were significant deviations from the norm in ways that screamed scum so obviously that one of the major argument raised in both their defences was that this deviation made them so obviously scum that they would have been stupid not to lie about it if they were scum.

So that's pretty bizarre. And then he votes for Ranagrande post-hammer. Which probably means nothing, I'm pretty sure Isaac wouldn't have minded at all being the actual hammer, but he did vote late. Even though he claimed that he was inclined to vote against Ranagrande earlier than that. So I suspect that he was trying to ingratiate himself to Taiga and Yunalesca by defending them at the expense of someone he had no compunction against bussing anyway.

Vote: Isaac
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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 2403 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1512 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 880 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 873 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1438 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 811 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 869 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 938 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1518 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1488 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 1451 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1528 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1466 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 1350 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 868 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1631 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 1403 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 1264 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 1336 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1494 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 1397 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1526 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1895 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 1324 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1380 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1380 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 829 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 1361 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 1407 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 1307 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 1426 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1474 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1417 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1509 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 891 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1425 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1335 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 927 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 952 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 928 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 919 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 873 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 888 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1625 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1539 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 1407 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1452 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1587 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1450 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1420 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 1365 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 1289 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1415 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 1342 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 1301 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 1323 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 791 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1738 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 1293 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 1343 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1408 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 796 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 899 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 994 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1556 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 1252 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 1264 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1374 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 852 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 1320 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1411 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1427 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 1312 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 1379 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 1282 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 872 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 906 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 901 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 1368 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 754 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 1472 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1440 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 1287 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 1384 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 818 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1395 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1404 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 757 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 1373 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1730 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 1268 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 654 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 840 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 1312 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 935 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1454 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 1362 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1412 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 1424 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1440 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1397 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 1333 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 858 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 838 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 891 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 1367 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 1315 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1435 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 968 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 1345 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 1371 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 1220 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 1404 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 1257 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1466 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 1240 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 1335 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 1309 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1385 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 1386 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 1321 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 1323 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 1289 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 997 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 799 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 846 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1431 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 1352 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 1270 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 1349 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 1269 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 844 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 1403 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 882 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 1366 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 1337 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 1357 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1455 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 893 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 1249 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 821 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 1329 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 1388 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1375 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 771 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 817 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 885 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 1334 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 1372 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 1331 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 1340 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 835 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 1383 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 1356 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1604 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 1336 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 846 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 850 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 833 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1371 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 841 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 1511 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 1284 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1492 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1491 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 1357 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1530 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 1346 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 835 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 823 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1461 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 823 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 880 Views

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