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Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM
I really didn't expect a scummer to go inactive like that, but more importantly, I was hoping we could get him as a modkill, which would have made him a bonus to someone else.

But it's true, I would totally have bussed Rana at that point, without the slightest hesitation.

We can be pretty much certain that Yuna is who she claims to be, and if we're ever searching for Serial Killers she'll be my top suspect again, but right now we don't even know that we have one of those, and the lack of night kill seems to imply that we don't. So as far as I'm concerned she is off-limits with regards to lynching.

Besides, her power probably makes her harder to lynch anyway.

Everything that applied to Taiga yesterday still applies today, but from the very little I've seen of the show, he roleclaimed pretty much exactly what I expected, and the claim is major enough that I don't expect it to be fake. Of course, Angel also has enough history that it could be a completely truthful roleclaim and still be scum.

But as of right now, I'm leaning against yesterday's top contenders. Next on the list was me, but obviously I'm not going to vote for myself :P.

The problem with the voting record here is that I generally don't count voting for inactives as especially meaningful. It's an easy vote to make - the target doesn't defend himself, it's easy to self-justify because even if he does turn out not to be scum (which is usually the case) then he was still acting antitown by draining the town's voting capacity, and scum are really not going to hesitate much in trying to improve their image by dropping the dead weight.

Which brings me to my own favourite suspect: Isaac.

I'm not seeing the case on Yuna or Taiga and it would have to be medium strong to get me to vote for a new player on Day 1


Not lynching new players (or Yunalesca again) is a sentiment I can understand, but from there to claiming that he "doesn't see the case on Yuna or Taiga" is quite a stretch. Both were significant deviations from the norm in ways that screamed scum so obviously that one of the major argument raised in both their defences was that this deviation made them so obviously scum that they would have been stupid not to lie about it if they were scum.

So that's pretty bizarre. And then he votes for Ranagrande post-hammer. Which probably means nothing, I'm pretty sure Isaac wouldn't have minded at all being the actual hammer, but he did vote late. Even though he claimed that he was inclined to vote against Ranagrande earlier than that. So I suspect that he was trying to ingratiate himself to Taiga and Yunalesca by defending them at the expense of someone he had no compunction against bussing anyway.

Vote: Isaac
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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 2228 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1323 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 788 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 775 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1263 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 707 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 764 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 836 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1344 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1309 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 1253 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1345 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1303 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 1184 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 712 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1366 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 1213 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 1077 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 1157 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1301 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 1222 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1345 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1703 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 1159 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1218 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1229 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 726 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 1175 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 1223 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 1140 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 1225 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1289 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1245 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1300 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 795 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1280 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1218 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 824 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 843 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 821 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 811 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 779 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 788 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1416 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1351 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 1223 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1273 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1409 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1247 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1234 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 1178 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 1106 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1248 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 1153 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 1110 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 1168 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 703 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1551 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 1125 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 1168 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1208 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 697 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 820 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 894 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1397 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 1090 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 1086 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1209 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 757 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 1126 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1241 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1232 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 1136 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 1227 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 1116 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 777 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 804 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 810 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 1193 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 659 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 1302 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1259 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 1129 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 1212 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 721 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1201 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1226 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 669 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 1222 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1551 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 1085 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 559 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 750 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 1156 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 840 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1281 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 1194 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1238 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 1250 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1272 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1249 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 1143 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 770 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 741 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 780 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 1177 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 1118 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1283 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 866 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 1169 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 1190 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 1057 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 1238 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 1115 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1304 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 1067 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 1162 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 1146 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1235 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 1201 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 1150 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 1176 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 1122 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 894 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 711 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 773 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1233 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 1182 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 1103 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 1196 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 1100 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 741 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 1213 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 793 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 1196 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 1147 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 1176 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1266 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 796 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 1077 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 741 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 1150 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 1212 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1214 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 677 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 724 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 798 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 1155 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 1194 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 1175 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 1170 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 749 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 1184 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 1169 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1454 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 1179 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 754 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 753 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 741 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1227 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 764 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 1320 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 1111 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1318 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1301 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 1178 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1365 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 1179 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 747 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 726 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1295 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 736 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 789 Views

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