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So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga Isaac Send a noteboard - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM
Thanks Artsapat for compiling the vote table:

Rana: Darth_Katie, Artsapat, Bergioyn, Yunalesca, Taiga, Fanatic-Templar, Isaac

Now we can dismiss DK, Artsapat, and Bergioyn of being scum I think because it's pretty weird to bus that early on a case that amounted to 'Isn't here', no reason to bus that.

Yuna and Taiga we can't because they were also accused and bussing an ally that's absolutely absent in favor of not dying is common sense.

FT and I are still on the hook, neither of us would hesitate to hammer an ally who was absent and my defense that I don't like to bus people only applies if I have time to defend them meaningfully, I didn't so realistically I could see myself performing triage that way.

Still a vote for is always a bit less suspicious then a vote for someone else or a non-vote and ? and Stephen did vote for other people.

In this case though I just think I'm going off what I know of Rana. He's been my ally on the dark side a lot of times and I know how he thinks, if he had been trying to build a BS frame case he'd have picked the non-scooby non-new-player - Yuna, not the non-human new player, Taiga.

He didn't, and that's weird, because that's the better case to fry as FT has rmeinded me and I find myself a bit surprised I didn't turn guns on Lucy for that, and I absolutely would have if I'd been a scummer and been paying attention. In fact I can't see missing that at all if I'd been scum. Nobody likes killing brand new players on Day 1, and non-human just isn't a case.

My guess, Rana figured he was going to die and voted for his ally so that when he died scum, as modkill or lynchee, Taiga would look more innocent. It fits him, he using bussing freely. If Taiga died he'd be clean for the rest of the game and if he died Taiga would be. It's not ironclad but I can't see Rana going for that lynch as a scapegoat and we know he'd be looking for one, not for a guilty party, since he was scum. He'd want someone he could fry easiest and non-human isn't enough to lynch off of even on day 1, not for a brand new player. Not with better targets.

So I think it's Taiga, but I'm not voting yet because I still haven't digested most of the posts in the game yet and might be missing something important. Thoughts?
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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 2348 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1452 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 850 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 843 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1387 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 778 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 839 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 911 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1466 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1439 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 1398 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1472 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1418 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 1301 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 839 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1560 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 1347 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 1211 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 1282 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1437 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 1340 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1471 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1834 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 1272 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1326 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1336 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 804 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 1303 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 1356 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 1253 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 1368 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1415 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1365 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1447 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 863 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1378 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1300 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 894 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 916 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 898 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 887 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 849 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 856 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1543 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1483 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 1344 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1408 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1527 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1392 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1368 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 1305 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 1231 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1368 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 1292 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 1238 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 1270 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 769 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1673 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 1240 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 1287 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1332 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 764 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 880 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 960 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1502 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 1207 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 1213 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1323 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 823 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 1260 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1361 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1374 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 1261 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 1327 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 1234 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 844 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 867 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 869 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 1315 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 723 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 1427 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1386 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 1228 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 1330 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 788 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1337 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1350 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 725 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 1329 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1663 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 1212 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 628 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 814 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 1268 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 905 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1410 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 1312 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1365 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 1363 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1389 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1348 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 1268 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 830 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 797 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 859 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 1315 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 1267 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1382 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 934 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 1291 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 1322 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 1172 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 1344 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 1211 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1426 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 1188 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 1278 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 1260 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1340 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 1324 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 1275 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 1275 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 1230 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 968 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 768 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 822 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1372 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 1301 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 1213 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 1302 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 1220 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 812 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 1344 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 858 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 1318 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 1281 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 1301 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1400 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 862 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 1204 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 801 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 1283 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 1333 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1325 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 741 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 785 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 859 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 1277 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 1310 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 1286 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 1286 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 808 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 1338 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 1299 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1561 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 1286 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 814 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 821 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 801 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1319 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 817 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 1459 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 1233 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1441 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1440 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 1303 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1474 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 1301 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 811 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 795 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1408 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 794 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 854 Views

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