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Penny in Dr Horrible Zeeb Send a noteboard - 16/10/2009 10:12:58 PM
Seriously though, I agree with every word he says here, except about Dollhouse, of which I have only seen the first 3 episodes, & Dr. Horrible, which I only saw about 5 minutes of. Absolutely every word throughout the rest of the review, I wholeheartedly support. I have NEVER read an entertainment article I have agreed with more.


I know a lot of women who are very annoyed with Whedon's proclamations of being a feminist because he has female characters who kick ass (but only if they have magical powers, or a huge gun) and apparently that's all you need.

I also do wonder about the idea that if FIREFLY had gone on any further he'd have also ruined what was great about that show. Apparently he was already considering killing off Inara at the time the show ended, and obviously he killed Wash just for the hell of it.

Penny's death in DR HORRIBLE may work if it sets up the sequel properly, but as it stands as the ending to a one-off special it comes across as rather pointless.

I do like Whedon's shows, on the whole, but he definitely has some weird ideas at times.


Surely Penny dying is the entire point of Dr Horrible! To me it seems like Joss is playing with the typical view of villains and heroes and in the end the 'badguy' feels nothing in what should have been his greatest and most proud moment - where his goal of joining Bad Horse et al. is realised - all because the girl of his dreams is dead and it's his fault. I can't think of a better ending, although of course it sucks and not just because I have a crush on Felicia Day.

Wash dying on the other hand was just rubbish and made me whuh a great deal. But then you kinda need that to happen sometimes as otherwise the author/whatever gets accused of never killing anyone, which is clearly stupid.
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A heretic blasphemes St Joss of Whedon. Cannoli - 16/10/2009 07:03:29 PM 967 Views
I have two disagreements. nossy - 16/10/2009 07:20:49 PM 458 Views
(by which I mean a bunch of typing that somehow turned into 1.5 moderately relevant comments.) *NM* nossy - 16/10/2009 07:25:07 PM 181 Views
Well he does cite Firefly as the superior show. Cannoli - 16/10/2009 09:01:01 PM 602 Views
About why she saved Wash from Nishka. Seriana Sedai - 17/10/2009 03:49:06 AM 519 Views
I agree with Seriana. nossy - 17/10/2009 05:42:33 AM 428 Views
I didn't say she was wrong or that feminists are right, I just presented what their position'd be Cannoli - 18/10/2009 12:11:25 AM 584 Views
Eh, the soup thing was fine beetnemesis - 17/10/2009 10:58:08 PM 399 Views
I don't believe that's a word. Aemon - 16/10/2009 10:50:00 PM 467 Views
Interesting article. Werthead - 16/10/2009 08:07:47 PM 394 Views
Penny in Dr Horrible Zeeb - 16/10/2009 10:12:58 PM 697 Views
So the guy hates Whedon as much as some love him. Craig - 16/10/2009 08:44:39 PM 379 Views
Actually, it suggests he likes Whedon's work, but hates Whedon's posturing & fan excesses. *NM* Cannoli - 16/10/2009 09:02:03 PM 232 Views
I thought that through the first half or so of the article. Craig - 16/10/2009 11:53:34 PM 373 Views
As far as I can have an opinion on them, I agree with all of his points *NM* ironclad - 16/10/2009 09:50:30 PM 205 Views
Not having seen the movies he wrote scripts for... Legolas - 16/10/2009 10:34:09 PM 385 Views
That was also the magic bullet episode. Werthead - 16/10/2009 11:40:11 PM 384 Views
Re: That was also the magic bullet episode. Legolas - 17/10/2009 01:27:32 PM 459 Views
Guns jerk up when fired, especially if you are a sissy poser like Warren. 1st Buffy, 2nd Tara Cannoli - 18/10/2009 12:13:44 AM 571 Views
You never saw Toy Story? *NM* Craig - 16/10/2009 11:55:55 PM 182 Views
I'd kind of forgotten he worked on that too, but no, actually. *NM* Legolas - 17/10/2009 01:16:35 PM 203 Views
You, sir, have no inner child. *NM* Craig - 17/10/2009 03:29:17 PM 168 Views
<3 cracked. *NM* Jessie - 16/10/2009 11:51:42 PM 306 Views
I strongly disagree with the Wash thing. Nate - 16/10/2009 11:54:16 PM 524 Views
Interesting tidbit. Craig - 16/10/2009 11:57:14 PM 440 Views
Huh. Neat. Nate - 17/10/2009 12:22:11 AM 456 Views
Wait, when do we learn about his past in Serenity? Ghavrel - 19/10/2009 03:42:34 AM 447 Views
It was between the lines. I will share my evidence. Nate - 19/10/2009 05:32:25 AM 551 Views
Maybe. But I think Book is honestly religious. Ghavrel - 19/10/2009 09:43:49 PM 482 Views
Yes. Seriana Sedai - 17/10/2009 03:53:16 AM 357 Views
I don't actually mind the killing happy characters thing, but it IS JW's most noted trait *NM* Cannoli - 18/10/2009 12:15:00 AM 274 Views
It is what he's known for, though sometimes I wonder why. (General Joss spoilers) Nate - 19/10/2009 05:50:55 AM 419 Views
Hm. (Buffy S7 spoilers) Legolas - 19/10/2009 11:39:26 AM 420 Views
Re: TaskmasterJack - 19/10/2009 04:33:40 PM 530 Views
...Echo is the baddest ass Kung Fu Whore TV has ever seen... Lol! She IS a naughty little doll. *NM* everynametaken - 18/10/2009 01:36:57 AM 216 Views
the first thing is the only one that's really rational temeraire - 19/10/2009 05:46:05 AM 512 Views
It's true. Nate - 19/10/2009 05:54:07 AM 373 Views
see, that's the one that always gets me too... temeraire - 20/10/2009 06:10:57 PM 429 Views
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