Anyone else ever get tired of the action occurring offstage and being forced to learn about it through character monologues after the fact?
No. Not if the really important thing is happening in the part that is shown. You're the kind of reader who would be pissing and moaning about the waste of time/space/pages spent on nothing happening if we got treated to Nynaeve & Cadsuane interrogating Semirhage futilely. The IMPORTANT thing is that Rand is not letting them use useful methods, and what this means for him and his character! What is the point of useless dialogue between Semirhage & Cadsuane with no relevance to the plot or exposition value?
It's been happening over the last several books more and more often. The most egregious example was Rand's meeting with Logain. It's the lazy way to tell a story. Rather than write the action as it happens, just let a character remember it.
Rand's meeting with Logain WAS the action, and it WAS the important parts, NOT the by-the-book meeting with Logain. Are you SERIOUSLY complaining that RJ did not show all the logistical details of moving around armies and Asha'man? The only detail of significance that Logain reported on, which might have been an actual scene, is Taim's reaction, and Logain told us all we need to know. The friction between Rand and Logain is much more important. We know all we need to about the relationship between Logain and Taim and Rand's & Taim's has not changed. RJ was not going to write a Logain-Taim confrontation with hints as to Taim's Shadow connections, so you would have been just as frustrated had that scene been in there.
I was disappointed in the chapter, not because of the writing, nor do I think it is Sanderson's fault, but it was another 6500 words with nothing happening.
1. Does each chapter REQUIRE "something" to happen? MUST there be a fight, One Power revelation or sex scene for every chapter?
2. What chapter are you talking about? I read, and was under the impression we were discussing, The Gathering Storm, Chapter 1 (Tears From Steel), where we see Rand is further along the path of psycho-hood, losing control regarding LTT, and still unable in spite of his estrangment from his humanity to order or even permit interrogation of one of the most obviously evil Forsaken merely because she happens to be a woman. We see more clearly than ever how he is looking at the worst in every situation, expecting the worst reactions or results to everything, deliberately eradicating his own humanity and even further increasingly obsessive. As an example of the last, he contemplates opposing Ituralde to further his truce with the Seanchan, and possibly throwing Murandy to the wolves as well, overlooking that the proposed truce was merely a means to an end.
Why not tell the story of the escape, or Rand's healing, or present some of the questioning scenes?
Because...and I am going to go out on a long limb here and make a vary tenuous leap of logic...they DON'T HAPPEN IN THE FIRST CHAPTER. Just a guess.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
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“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1
05/09/2009 05:23:47 PM
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For all of those whining about it not sounding like RJ:
05/09/2009 05:47:07 PM
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You're forgetting one thing.
06/09/2009 12:13:03 AM
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And if he were to off Egwene? What would your opinion be? *NM*
07/09/2009 05:38:36 AM
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He dislikes Sanderson's prose. Plot content is irrelevant here. *NM*
08/09/2009 06:44:42 PM
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Pretty good.
05/09/2009 07:35:41 PM
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Re: Pretty good.
05/09/2009 09:13:44 PM
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I found it well-written, but rather uninteresting story-wise *NM*
05/09/2009 08:04:15 PM
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because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter
05/09/2009 08:29:18 PM
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I'm tired of passive story telling.
05/09/2009 08:57:13 PM
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I'm tired of mindless readers
06/09/2009 01:54:14 AM
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Re: I'm tired of mindless readers
06/09/2009 04:01:56 AM
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I was over critical.
06/09/2009 04:56:48 AM
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A real analyst or literary critic would laugh his ass off to see this...
06/09/2009 06:51:57 AM
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Re: because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter
06/09/2009 01:22:09 AM
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A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
05/09/2009 09:34:44 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
05/09/2009 10:03:59 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
06/09/2009 03:18:41 AM
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I think Lews Therin's comments to Rand were the most hugely significant part of the chapter.
06/09/2009 01:15:05 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
06/09/2009 02:52:47 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
06/09/2009 07:08:08 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
06/09/2009 10:31:20 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
07/09/2009 05:09:38 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
08/09/2009 10:19:13 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
10/09/2009 06:20:56 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
08/09/2009 11:46:44 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
07/09/2009 04:41:47 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
09/09/2009 03:48:53 PM
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Good post, but I have an alternative explanation for the saidin barrier
28/09/2009 12:53:41 AM
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Robert Jordon vs Brandon Sanderson
06/09/2009 12:02:13 AM
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Re: Robert Jordon vs Brandon Sanderson
06/09/2009 05:12:25 PM
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Re: Robert Jordon vs Brandon Sanderson
06/09/2009 07:20:45 PM
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I found it...interesting --spoilers--
06/09/2009 01:33:11 AM
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I liked it
06/09/2009 07:58:09 AM
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Some questions...
06/09/2009 08:04:30 AM
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Theory: Rand and Egwene. What is up?
06/09/2009 07:59:58 AM
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A simpler answer
06/09/2009 03:04:04 PM
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Really?
06/09/2009 03:38:59 PM
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Look at what he has seen...
06/09/2009 11:45:44 PM
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And all this happeened in the few days between the end of KoD and the beginning of tGS?
07/09/2009 12:35:29 AM
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Why not? How often did he think of Egwene in A Plain Wooden Box? It might have been there already
07/09/2009 05:29:27 AM
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She treated him like a pawn when she "passed" him over to Elayne way back. NM *NM*
07/09/2009 02:49:18 PM
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are we already at the location of the book cover?
06/09/2009 11:49:06 AM
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Two Things
07/09/2009 12:25:31 AM
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My thoughts are that the main page is being crowded by too many duplicate threads
07/09/2009 10:23:41 PM
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I know why Rand is mad at Egwene...read inside to find out
11/09/2009 03:15:00 AM
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Ummm... the embassy's proposal was accepted, and (presumably) communicated to Egwene at the earliest *NM*
11/09/2009 04:16:31 AM
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Semirhage isn't scaring anyone
28/09/2009 02:32:34 PM
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Indeed...
28/09/2009 03:36:55 PM
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Will the Chosen pass that edict down or just not act themselves?
28/09/2009 10:29:53 PM
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