So the thrust of your argument is “Child A is being spoiled and indulged and never reprimanded, and behaves horribly, with no consequences for such behavior. Child B is better behaved, more mature, better-natured, and IS punished or corrected as required. I hate the injustice of this situation and demand to know why Child B cannot be indulged like Child A!” Just because Egwene is not getting her comeuppance is no reason the rest of the world has to go on hold. Cadsuane is not responsible for Egwene’s lack of correction, and she is rightfully giving Rand the priority she should. And when she does meet Egwene and act impressed with her, bear in mind, she has no way of knowing what a little shit the wretch has been for 12+ books. It isn’t Cadsuane’s fault Rand, Nynaeve and Min are too gracious and classy to set Cadsuane straight or too ignorant to realize how bad Egwene is (I am thinking of Min, here).
I have grave doubts whether Cadsuane would find any interest in correcting Egwene because not only is Egwene less influential, her problem is exactly the opposite of Rand's!
Where Rand thinks everyone should do as he says just because he says it, Egwene is wary of imposing on women who have sworn oaths to her!
Where Rand wants an army that is eagerly looking for death in battle, and thinks only success at Tarmon Gaidon matters, Egwene thinks that every citizen, every Aes Sedai and every soldier is important, and is reluctant to shed any blood. She's stupid enough to put the life of a novice from her home town above her own, and is imprisoned because of it.
Where Rand bad mouths people sworn to him, Egwene is courteous, and only comes close to yelling when one of those women breaks her oath.
Whatever success she has achieved, whatever domination she has established, she has done so while maintaining a facade of calm control. Hence, even an abrasive underling like Romanda can find grudging respect for her actions.
As for Egwene's supposed tyranny over the Novices, we know that most of it is due to one single incidence where Egwene was doing what was legal and right, and the rest is just talk from the Accepted to keep the Novices in check. Her "tyranny" in no way demeans her in the eyes of the women whose support and respect she needs.
Egwene's problems are much easier to sort out, unlikely to cause the destruction of the world, and certainly not something that cannot be handled by a few stern conversations with Cadsuane.
Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1
- 05/09/2009 05:23:47 PM
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For all of those whining about it not sounding like RJ:
- 05/09/2009 05:47:07 PM
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You're forgetting one thing.
- 06/09/2009 12:13:03 AM
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And if he were to off Egwene? What would your opinion be? *NM*
- 07/09/2009 05:38:36 AM
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He dislikes Sanderson's prose. Plot content is irrelevant here. *NM*
- 08/09/2009 06:44:42 PM
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Pretty good.
- 05/09/2009 07:35:41 PM
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Re: Pretty good.
- 05/09/2009 09:13:44 PM
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I found it well-written, but rather uninteresting story-wise *NM*
- 05/09/2009 08:04:15 PM
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because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter
- 05/09/2009 08:29:18 PM
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- 05/09/2009 08:29:18 PM
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I'm tired of passive story telling.
- 05/09/2009 08:57:13 PM
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I'm tired of mindless readers
- 06/09/2009 01:54:14 AM
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Re: I'm tired of mindless readers
- 06/09/2009 04:01:56 AM
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I was over critical.
- 06/09/2009 04:56:48 AM
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A real analyst or literary critic would laugh his ass off to see this...
- 06/09/2009 06:51:57 AM
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Re: because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter
- 06/09/2009 01:22:09 AM
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- 06/09/2009 01:22:09 AM
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A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 05/09/2009 09:34:44 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 05/09/2009 10:03:59 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 06/09/2009 03:18:41 AM
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I think Lews Therin's comments to Rand were the most hugely significant part of the chapter.
- 06/09/2009 01:15:05 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 06/09/2009 02:52:47 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 06/09/2009 07:08:08 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 06/09/2009 10:31:20 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 07/09/2009 05:09:38 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 08/09/2009 10:19:13 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 10/09/2009 06:20:56 AM
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On Egwene...
- 10/09/2009 04:33:58 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 08/09/2009 11:46:44 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 07/09/2009 04:41:47 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 09/09/2009 03:48:53 PM
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Good post, but I have an alternative explanation for the saidin barrier
- 28/09/2009 12:53:41 AM
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Robert Jordon vs Brandon Sanderson
- 06/09/2009 12:02:13 AM
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Re: Robert Jordon vs Brandon Sanderson
- 06/09/2009 05:12:25 PM
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Re: Robert Jordon vs Brandon Sanderson
- 06/09/2009 07:20:45 PM
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I found it...interesting --spoilers--
- 06/09/2009 01:33:11 AM
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I liked it
- 06/09/2009 07:58:09 AM
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Some questions...
- 06/09/2009 08:04:30 AM
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Theory: Rand and Egwene. What is up?
- 06/09/2009 07:59:58 AM
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A simpler answer
- 06/09/2009 03:04:04 PM
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Really?
- 06/09/2009 03:38:59 PM
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Look at what he has seen...
- 06/09/2009 11:45:44 PM
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And all this happeened in the few days between the end of KoD and the beginning of tGS?
- 07/09/2009 12:35:29 AM
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Why not? How often did he think of Egwene in A Plain Wooden Box? It might have been there already
- 07/09/2009 05:29:27 AM
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She treated him like a pawn when she "passed" him over to Elayne way back. NM *NM*
- 07/09/2009 02:49:18 PM
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are we already at the location of the book cover?
- 06/09/2009 11:49:06 AM
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Two Things
- 07/09/2009 12:25:31 AM
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My thoughts are that the main page is being crowded by too many duplicate threads
- 07/09/2009 10:23:41 PM
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I know why Rand is mad at Egwene...read inside to find out
- 11/09/2009 03:15:00 AM
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Ummm... the embassy's proposal was accepted, and (presumably) communicated to Egwene at the earliest *NM*
- 11/09/2009 04:16:31 AM
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Semirhage isn't scaring anyone
- 28/09/2009 02:32:34 PM
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Indeed...
- 28/09/2009 03:36:55 PM
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Will the Chosen pass that edict down or just not act themselves?
- 28/09/2009 10:29:53 PM
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