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Yes, I agree with that, but I was mostly just replying to your question about sleep-channeling. Gher Send a noteboard - 27/05/2010 06:56:18 AM
So that's a bit of a fundamental question. Given that we know that channeling is genetic, there must be something physical that affects your ability to channel, it seems therefore unlikely that a bodiless individual would be able to channel more and better than their real body.

I do think that dreamwalking channelers only believe that they are channeling, which may explain both why their ability to channel vanishes when caught in Nightmares, and also why Moghedien was absolutely terrified of Rand and Rahvin being present 'in the flesh' - they were throwing the One Power about, whereas Moghedien and Nynaeve were only pretending to throw the One Power about.

Of course, that's just my hypothesis, and I really have no absolute evidence for it, but I do think it is more likely.


I don't think that TAR channeling could affect the outside world, imagined or otherwise. I don't think Sidious' scenario is plausible.
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*nods* *NM* - 27/05/2010 11:29:10 PM 361 Views
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Sid, I made some edits, but really nothing's certain. Look again, pls. *NM* - 26/05/2010 08:55:30 PM 380 Views
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Re: You have to enter TAR in the Flesh to leave it in the Flesh. - 26/05/2010 10:57:06 PM 701 Views
The short answer to Birgitte - 27/05/2010 02:37:13 AM 712 Views
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Dream gateway! - 27/05/2010 12:05:31 AM 718 Views
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aren't we all? *NM* - 27/05/2010 12:04:08 AM 324 Views
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is it possible to Travel in T'A'R when dreaming? - 27/05/2010 12:06:57 AM 714 Views
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Your real body can only channel Spirit. - 27/05/2010 05:25:08 AM 805 Views
Yes, but you need real One Power to affect the real world. - 27/05/2010 06:46:21 AM 766 Views
Yes, I agree with that, but I was mostly just replying to your question about sleep-channeling. - 27/05/2010 06:56:18 AM 701 Views
The only real situation we have to compare... - 27/05/2010 06:59:51 AM 697 Views
That's a weird situation. - 27/05/2010 07:09:21 AM 742 Views
Well, yes. The Birgitte situation can't be compared directly to Sidious' - 27/05/2010 08:01:38 AM 769 Views
Re: The only real situation we have to compare... - 27/05/2010 07:11:45 PM 790 Views
If something that didn't exist before existed after... - 27/05/2010 08:58:55 PM 730 Views
Re: If something that didn't exist before existed after... - 28/05/2010 02:09:01 PM 813 Views
Actually I don't think so.. - 28/05/2010 02:31:27 PM 697 Views
your dream self couldn't exit TAR... - 27/05/2010 06:39:26 AM 767 Views
TAR constructs cannot leave it. - 27/05/2010 04:57:12 PM 920 Views
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shucks everyone already thought of this... *NM* - 27/05/2010 07:08:50 PM 329 Views
problem solved... sort of? - 28/05/2010 02:48:13 AM 840 Views
I agree with those saying that if you don't physically enter TAR... - 29/05/2010 09:32:40 PM 750 Views

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