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Nice ideas! Sidious Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM

Yes I forgot about Moghedien being a species of spider. Be'lal is probably the Envious, and even Moiraine makes it plain that it was his strong trait.

Semirhage may be the Lady of Pain, or perhaps crudely translated it would be the Woman of Agony or something.

Demandred has many possibilities. My first choice would be 'the Covetor', but another strong possibility is the 'False Prophet' because he was a potential Dragon, who went rogue.

Mesaana's probably centered on revenge, Graendal's on lust, and Asmodean on 'Unfulfilled Talent' or perhaps something directly surrounding his music.
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Forsaken translations Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2757 Views
Yeah... Etzel - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1985 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... Shannow - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 2352 Views
You are right... Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1887 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? Cannoli - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1829 Views
On Be'lal Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1674 Views
Nice ideas! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1789 Views
The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:48:19 PM 1560 Views
Re: The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:43:48 PM 1718 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle Great Lord of Chaos - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1688 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1576 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1638 Views
or that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 937 Views
About Aginor Ishamael - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 2101 Views
Great! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1781 Views
Some Old Tongue translations sylph - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1682 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 929 Views
Good luck with that DomA - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1759 Views
Re: Good luck with that Cynewulf - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1578 Views
Very interesting! Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1755 Views
As always, KOuellette - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1560 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1901 Views
it's the other way around... DomA - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1625 Views
good point darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1632 Views
Re: good point DomA - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1693 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1661 Views
What about Cyndane Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1569 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 853 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 975 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 883 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 843 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 774 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 858 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 892 Views
Re: good point Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1729 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1672 Views
I disagree Etzel - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1689 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1806 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1752 Views
Disagree darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1673 Views
Re: Disagree Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1654 Views
I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1629 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 4120 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1636 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1515 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1672 Views
I think it's shown well Sidious - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1812 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1751 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1701 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1509 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive Etzel - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1460 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1655 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1579 Views
darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1676 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1717 Views
not ballsy, just psycho darius_sedai - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1683 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1566 Views
I think she's a weak villain darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1566 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1625 Views
and slaughter the Seanchan empress on her own throne thowing the empire into chaos darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:30:27 PM 1658 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1631 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... Shishka - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1641 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1934 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... Gher - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1607 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* Gher - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 821 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1703 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. Gher - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1659 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. FanEditor10 - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1659 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence DomA - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1670 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense Lordling - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1671 Views
Interesting *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 927 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense DomA - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1891 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... Shishka - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1560 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding Lordling - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1655 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... DomA - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1877 Views
And Dragon translations... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1774 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1590 Views
Why would they call themselves "Spears of the fictional creature"? Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 12:29:49 AM 1547 Views
It was meant as a joke, but really it could be some generic term rather than meaning darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:00:36 AM 1657 Views
Except that they don't know what a 'Dragon' is, except as it relates to Lews Therin/Rand Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 05:11:30 PM 1597 Views
like I said, I was just making a joke of it ... you are quite right with "Rand's Spears" darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:32:42 PM 1404 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon DomA - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1839 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 888 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... Shannow - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1852 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 728 Views
Lizard? *NM* Gher - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 915 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 808 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 1379 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings Lordling - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7874 Views
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