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Re: The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten Sidious Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 04:43:48 PM

Yes I forgot about Moghedien being a species of spider. Be'lal is probably the Envious, and even Moiraine makes it plain that it was his strong trait.

Semirhage may be the Lady of Pain, or perhaps crudely translated it would be the Woman of Agony or something.

Demandred has many possibilities. My first choice would be 'the Covetor', but another strong possibility is the 'False Prophet' because he was a potential Dragon, who went rogue.

Mesaana's probably centered on revenge, Graendal's on lust, and Asmodean on 'Unfulfilled Talent' or perhaps something directly surrounding his music.


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The carving seemed an odd choice - what people around Ebou Dar called the Thirteen Sins; a man with eyes that nearly filled his whole face for Envy, a fellow with his tongue hanging to his ankles for Gossip, a snarling, sharp-toothed man clutching coins to his chest for Greed, and so on

I wonder if these "13 Sins" are somehow a 3000 year old reminder of the FS ... just a random thought :)


Indeed. Another one is the saying that if there's sunshine while it rains, the Dark One is beating Semirhage. Later Semirhage really was beaten. LOL
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Forsaken translations - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2758 Views
Yeah... - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1987 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 2353 Views
You are right... - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1888 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1830 Views
On Be'lal - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1675 Views
Nice ideas! - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1789 Views
The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten - 17/06/2010 02:48:19 PM 1560 Views
Re: The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten - 17/06/2010 04:43:48 PM 1720 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1690 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1576 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1639 Views
or that *NM* - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 937 Views
About Aginor - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 2101 Views
Great! - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1783 Views
Some Old Tongue translations - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1682 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 929 Views
Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1760 Views
Re: Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1579 Views
Very interesting! - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1756 Views
As always, - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1561 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1903 Views
it's the other way around... - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1627 Views
good point - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1632 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1693 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1662 Views
What about Cyndane - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1570 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 853 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 975 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 883 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 843 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 774 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 858 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 892 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1731 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1674 Views
I disagree - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1690 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1807 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1753 Views
Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1675 Views
Re: Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1656 Views
I'm not being very clear - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1630 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 4121 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1637 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1516 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1672 Views
I think it's shown well - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1813 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1751 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1701 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1510 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1461 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1655 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1580 Views
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Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1717 Views
not ballsy, just psycho - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1683 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1567 Views
I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1567 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1626 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1632 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1643 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1936 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1608 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 821 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1703 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1660 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1659 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1670 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1673 Views
Interesting *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 927 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1891 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1560 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1655 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1878 Views
And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1775 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1591 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1839 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 888 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1852 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 728 Views
Lizard? *NM* - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 915 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 808 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 1379 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7875 Views

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