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Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle Great Lord of Chaos Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM
Semirhage means Lady of Pain.

But translations may prove difficult. RJ says he has the meanings of all the Forsaken names, it it will no doubt appear in the encyclopedia.

But he also said that he didn't develop a complete Old Tongue language, and that he pretty much used words as and when necessary.

So we might well see a situation where the actual syllables and meaning of a Forsaken name don't match up as far as the Old Tongue is concerned, or contradicts other uses of the same phrase.

Demandred might be "Lord of Hate" but something like Lord may already have been given as the "Gai" in Gai' shain, which means Battle Lord or something.

This is a stupid example, and may be totally incorrect, as I can't actually remember exactly what Gai Shain means, but I think you see the point I'm trying to make.


Just a small tidbit.
Ὦ ξεῖν', ἀγγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ὅτι τῇδε
κείμεθα, τοῖς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι.
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Forsaken translations - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2481 Views
Yeah... - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1754 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 2090 Views
You are right... - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1649 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1583 Views
On Be'lal - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1426 Views
Nice ideas! - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1562 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1388 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1329 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1401 Views
or that *NM* - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 813 Views
About Aginor - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 1847 Views
Great! - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1531 Views
Some Old Tongue translations - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1435 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 807 Views
Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1521 Views
Re: Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1345 Views
Very interesting! - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1457 Views
As always, - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1320 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1645 Views
it's the other way around... - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1390 Views
good point - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1372 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1441 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1422 Views
What about Cyndane - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1307 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 731 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 857 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 751 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 712 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 643 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 722 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 770 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1481 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1369 Views
I disagree - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1442 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1574 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1516 Views
Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1431 Views
Re: Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1386 Views
I'm not being very clear - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1408 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 3841 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1407 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1265 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1425 Views
I think it's shown well - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1579 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1511 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1464 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1279 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1218 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1422 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1315 Views
- 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1444 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1447 Views
not ballsy, just psycho - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1437 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1308 Views
I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1266 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1377 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1372 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1400 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1505 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1344 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 704 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1465 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1415 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1429 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1438 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1420 Views
Interesting *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 797 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1624 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1322 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1423 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1591 Views
And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1525 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1344 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1583 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 761 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1604 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 606 Views
Lizard? *NM* - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 768 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 688 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 1160 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7572 Views

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