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And Dragon translations... Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM
If we take "siswai'aman" as meaning "Spears of the Dragon", we have a conclusion that there is an Old Tongue word for "Dragon", which is peculiar because "Dragon" is a word without meaning for Third Age people, aside from the title of Lews Therin Telamon, who would have obviously borne that title in the Old Tongue. So really, shouldn't "Dragon" already be the Old Tongue word for Dragon? Whence comes this 'aman' then?

Funny too, because I seem to remember that in order to dodge the use of the word "Dragon", dragonflies are called lacewings in The Wheel of Time.
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Forsaken translations Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2537 Views
Yeah... Etzel - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1804 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... Shannow - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 2142 Views
You are right... Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1709 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? Cannoli - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1642 Views
On Be'lal Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1491 Views
Nice ideas! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1616 Views
The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:48:19 PM 1383 Views
Re: The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:43:48 PM 1537 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle Great Lord of Chaos - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1437 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1396 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1463 Views
or that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 836 Views
About Aginor Ishamael - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 1901 Views
Great! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1601 Views
Some Old Tongue translations sylph - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1499 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 829 Views
Good luck with that DomA - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1574 Views
Re: Good luck with that Cynewulf - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1390 Views
Very interesting! Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1517 Views
As always, KOuellette - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1368 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1707 Views
it's the other way around... DomA - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1445 Views
good point darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1436 Views
Re: good point DomA - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1486 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1464 Views
What about Cyndane Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1357 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 750 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 878 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 777 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 734 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 663 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 748 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 791 Views
Re: good point Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1533 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1431 Views
I disagree Etzel - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1502 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1627 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1576 Views
Disagree darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1484 Views
Re: Disagree Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1439 Views
I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1460 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 3904 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1463 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1322 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1485 Views
I think it's shown well Sidious - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1635 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1570 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1516 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1335 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive Etzel - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1268 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1479 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1376 Views
darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1511 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1507 Views
not ballsy, just psycho darius_sedai - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1478 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1370 Views
I think she's a weak villain darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1325 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1433 Views
and slaughter the Seanchan empress on her own throne thowing the empire into chaos darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:30:27 PM 1468 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1430 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... Shishka - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1454 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1572 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... Gher - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1401 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* Gher - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 728 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1518 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. Gher - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1480 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. FanEditor10 - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1474 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence DomA - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1498 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense Lordling - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1482 Views
Interesting *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 824 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense DomA - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1680 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... Shishka - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1372 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding Lordling - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1476 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... DomA - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1660 Views
And Dragon translations... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1580 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1407 Views
Why would they call themselves "Spears of the fictional creature"? Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 12:29:49 AM 1363 Views
It was meant as a joke, but really it could be some generic term rather than meaning darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:00:36 AM 1397 Views
Except that they don't know what a 'Dragon' is, except as it relates to Lews Therin/Rand Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 05:11:30 PM 1388 Views
like I said, I was just making a joke of it ... you are quite right with "Rand's Spears" darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:32:42 PM 1230 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon DomA - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1632 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 782 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... Shannow - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1660 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 627 Views
Lizard? *NM* Gher - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 821 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 711 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 1217 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings Lordling - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7627 Views
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