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I don't see that bearing out in the text at all darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM
It doesn't make much sense that the other 5 "were truly more impressive" than Lanfear, if she is among the Top 6.

Personally, I definitely think that RJ also ranked those 6 at least a bit, namely that the first mentioned Ishy was the foremost of all Forsaken, followed by Demandred, and that the greatest female Forsaken was Lanfear.


The point I'm making is that Lanfear was unimpressive as a villain or character. I'm sure RJ meant for her to be seen as pretty much equal to all the top 6... I just think he wound up making her more of a joke.

Seriously everything she did screamed "Spoiled Brat" ... with the others there was just more depth.
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Forsaken translations Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2705 Views
Yeah... Etzel - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1940 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... Shannow - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 2312 Views
You are right... Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1841 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? Cannoli - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1781 Views
On Be'lal Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1630 Views
Nice ideas! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1751 Views
The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:48:19 PM 1521 Views
Re: The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:43:48 PM 1677 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle Great Lord of Chaos - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1622 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1538 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1594 Views
or that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 916 Views
About Aginor Ishamael - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 2060 Views
Great! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1738 Views
Some Old Tongue translations sylph - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1634 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 903 Views
Good luck with that DomA - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1715 Views
Re: Good luck with that Cynewulf - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1530 Views
Very interesting! Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1712 Views
As always, KOuellette - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1510 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1851 Views
it's the other way around... DomA - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1587 Views
good point darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1580 Views
Re: good point DomA - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1638 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1612 Views
What about Cyndane Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1525 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 832 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 950 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 859 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 821 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 745 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 828 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 869 Views
Re: good point Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1679 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1610 Views
I disagree Etzel - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1646 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1757 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1708 Views
Disagree darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1630 Views
Re: Disagree Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1603 Views
I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1592 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 4068 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1595 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1469 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1631 Views
I think it's shown well Sidious - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1774 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1707 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1654 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1464 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive Etzel - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1420 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1614 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1527 Views
darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1639 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1656 Views
not ballsy, just psycho darius_sedai - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1641 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1518 Views
I think she's a weak villain darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1512 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1584 Views
and slaughter the Seanchan empress on her own throne thowing the empire into chaos darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:30:27 PM 1616 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1587 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... Shishka - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1595 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1857 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... Gher - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1564 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* Gher - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 799 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1652 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. Gher - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1613 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. FanEditor10 - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1611 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence DomA - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1629 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense Lordling - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1632 Views
Interesting *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 905 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense DomA - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1835 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... Shishka - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1514 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding Lordling - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1614 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... DomA - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1823 Views
And Dragon translations... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1736 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1546 Views
Why would they call themselves "Spears of the fictional creature"? Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 12:29:49 AM 1497 Views
It was meant as a joke, but really it could be some generic term rather than meaning darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:00:36 AM 1601 Views
Except that they don't know what a 'Dragon' is, except as it relates to Lews Therin/Rand Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 05:11:30 PM 1549 Views
like I said, I was just making a joke of it ... you are quite right with "Rand's Spears" darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:32:42 PM 1364 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon DomA - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1784 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 855 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... Shannow - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1788 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 704 Views
Lizard? *NM* Gher - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 892 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 784 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 1343 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings Lordling - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7795 Views
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