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After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: bobsledai Send a noteboard - 26/06/2010 05:33:21 PM
The Bore is either an effect of or is itself a weave of the One Power. I am not sure which, because the normal ideas of how the One Power work get murky when considering it is applied to the edges of the Pattern.

After all, what does it mean for there to be a thinness in the Pattern? Does it mean that the Pattern did not exist quite as much as it should? Does it mean that the barriers giving it its shape were failing?

So what does it mean to drill? Does it mean that you get rid of some piece(s) of the Pattern? Does it mean you make a gateway from the inside to the outside?

And how could the Bore have been intended to be small (a finger hole in a prison wall) if it would have a global/universal effect?



I propose that the Bore is not at any specific location in the Pattern because when we talk about location we are talking about three dimensions of space. But the Bore must be something involving other aspects of the Pattern, not space. Other dimensions of existence, perhaps, or something else more abstract.

But this allows for the Bore to be, as I said, either an effect of or an actual weave of the One Power. The weave used to create the Bore could have been localized, though localized not in 3D but some other dimension. This should be possible as the AoL Aes Sedai had dealings with the Finns and Ogier that showed familiarity with extradimensional One Power science.

So I would say the Bore is somewhere specific, just not anywhere in space.
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How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 01:00:35 AM 1705 Views
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After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: - 26/06/2010 05:33:21 PM 994 Views
Re: After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: - 27/06/2010 06:20:32 PM 1036 Views
Could the Bore have been drilled using balefire? - 02/07/2010 12:07:33 AM 844 Views
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Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 05:59:38 PM 1025 Views
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me too ! - 25/06/2010 10:34:41 PM 884 Views
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duct tape *NM* - 26/06/2010 11:17:54 AM 426 Views
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