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Ĵust to point out the obvious... DomA Send a noteboard - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM
Cadsuane and the WO aren't the only ones who could deduce Cadsuane kept the domination band and where. She intended to test it eventually on an Asha'man, but still had to convince Rand to let her (she had made another attempt in chapter one). Her followers and probably pretty much everyone present at Semirhage's capture probably knew about that (it's when Cadsuane grabbed the objects...). Cadsuane had promised Rand it was safe.

Most importantly, notice that at the first meeting with Cadsuane upon their arrival, Bair and Sorilea already knew Cadsuane had male/female a'dam and took the initiative to ask her about that. Cadsuane wasn't in any way surprised that they knew. They knew she was the one keeping them. So, it wasn't a secret that Cadsuane had the DM.

Her hiding place wasn't quite "clever": in her room, in a trunk. Riiiight. No one would search her room first, no one would look in her trunk after trying her jewels box. Cadsuane sinned by overconfidence. She thinks she has everyone under control, and that inverted weaves can't be detected. She was wrong.

The other obvious fact: Cadsuane has not even wondered (nor Nynaeve, nor the WO) how the Shadow could find the DM. There was no hunt for the DF who led Elza/Semirhage to it, for the good reason everyone knew Elza needed no one telling her Cadsuane had the DM, and Cadsuane's hding place had been all too obvious to any BA in the group, and Elza/Semirhage just had to wait until Cadsuane was out of the building to steal it. Had Bair and Sorilea been the only ones to know, Cadsuane would have suspected them immediately.

We also know it's Shaidar Haran who made Elza steal the DB. It's probably him who could detect wards. Most likely he asked Elza in the first place where the a'dam taken from Semirhage were. Elza answered "probably in Cadsuane's room". SH made her search it, they found the warded trunk, and SH taught Elza how to unravel the ward (yes, she probably used the TP for that. SH couldn't do it itself because of limitations to its interaction with the physical world).
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So, Is Bair a Darkfriend, or Sorilea? - 27/06/2010 09:19:22 AM 3756 Views
Maybe they found it with need? - 27/06/2010 11:28:44 AM 1074 Views
But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 27/06/2010 01:18:52 PM 1382 Views
I brought up the potential for Sorilea in the past - 27/06/2010 03:02:51 PM 1187 Views
Another good point. - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM 1153 Views
A good point. - 29/06/2010 11:38:51 AM 939 Views
Re: But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 29/06/2010 09:36:03 PM 1113 Views
yeah, Verin Compelled all the captive AS in the Aiel camp - 29/06/2010 09:41:33 PM 1202 Views
Would that work, I wonder? - 29/06/2010 11:24:42 AM 994 Views
Re: Maybe they found it with need? - 08/07/2010 07:18:04 AM 790 Views
What if it was Shadar Haran that found it? - 27/06/2010 05:01:52 PM 1029 Views
It's possible, but not likely, IMHO. - 29/06/2010 11:46:08 AM 960 Views
Ĵust to point out the obvious... - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM 1092 Views
You really think Elza used the TP? - 28/06/2010 05:35:20 AM 903 Views
I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 07:56:10 AM 1026 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 01:48:10 PM 1075 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 06:50:57 PM 1005 Views
I agree - 28/06/2010 10:10:04 PM 1007 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 11:17:19 PM 988 Views
I agree as well - 29/06/2010 09:20:10 AM 905 Views
Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 07:12:26 AM 809 Views
Re: Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 08:56:42 AM 767 Views
Physical limitations make sense, BUT...: - 29/06/2010 12:30:33 PM 979 Views
It seems... - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM 919 Views
Re: It seems... - 29/06/2010 06:45:19 PM 939 Views
Hmmm.... - 29/06/2010 07:08:30 PM 735 Views
Good points - 29/06/2010 08:16:43 PM 1076 Views
That's a good observation - 29/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 932 Views
Yeah, that would make some sense! *NM* - 30/06/2010 09:59:07 AM 848 Views
Some thoughts - 30/06/2010 12:15:25 PM 824 Views
Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 05:42:29 AM 900 Views
Re: Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 01:53:32 PM 1063 Views
It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 12:23:42 PM 880 Views
Re: It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 06:12:14 PM 987 Views
About use of the TP - 29/06/2010 08:59:47 PM 1006 Views
UR WRONG - 27/06/2010 11:09:35 PM 922 Views
AM NOT111 - 29/06/2010 12:32:09 PM 744 Views
I tend to doubt that one of them is a DF - 29/06/2010 09:45:58 AM 801 Views
"Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 12:37:09 PM 902 Views
Re: "Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 06:31:11 PM 715 Views
I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 06:40:49 PM 853 Views
Re: I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 07:57:38 PM 923 Views
I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 29/06/2010 08:31:01 PM 837 Views
I agree that seems a bit too nasty for RJ - 30/06/2010 08:43:00 AM 857 Views
Re: I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 08/07/2010 02:20:32 PM 974 Views
you are likley correct - 08/07/2010 03:09:33 PM 806 Views
Yes, Ingtar - wrong guy lol (posting from work) - 30/06/2010 12:30:54 PM 934 Views

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