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It seems... Etzel Send a noteboard - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM
SH can - at least at the moment - only really affect people sworn to the Shadow, according to the following report/Q&A by BS:

Q :You mention that Shaidar Haran has quite a few limitations on his power. Can you give us a few concrete examples of these limitations?
A: Shaidar Haran needs a minion to do most of his work for him. Elza was essential to Shaidar Haran in getting things done.

This lead to lots of discussion about swearing to the Shadow – basically, it’s a very bad idea and you forfeit some very basic protections when you do. Shaidar Haran has special power over those that swear to the Dark One, and the Forsaken in particular. I asked about Alviarin’s special mark, and he said Shaidar Haran has similar power over her. The implication is that there are lots of ramifications for swearing to the Dark One. Brandon mentioned that this makes Verin all the more remarkable.


Likely this will change the more power the DO gets on the world.

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So, Is Bair a Darkfriend, or Sorilea? Joel - 27/06/2010 09:19:22 AM 3909 Views
Maybe they found it with need? Cannoli - 27/06/2010 11:28:44 AM 1238 Views
But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. Lord Haart - 27/06/2010 01:18:52 PM 1520 Views
I brought up the potential for Sorilea in the past darius_sedai - 27/06/2010 03:02:51 PM 1327 Views
Another good point. Joel - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM 1287 Views
A good point. Joel - 29/06/2010 11:38:51 AM 1080 Views
Re: But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. CatherineSedai - 29/06/2010 09:36:03 PM 1269 Views
yeah, Verin Compelled all the captive AS in the Aiel camp darius_sedai - 29/06/2010 09:41:33 PM 1343 Views
Would that work, I wonder? Joel - 29/06/2010 11:24:42 AM 1170 Views
Re: Maybe they found it with need? CatherineSedai - 08/07/2010 07:18:04 AM 969 Views
What if it was Shadar Haran that found it? Skeeve the Great - 27/06/2010 05:01:52 PM 1201 Views
It's possible, but not likely, IMHO. Joel - 29/06/2010 11:46:08 AM 1099 Views
Ĵust to point out the obvious... DomA - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM 1263 Views
You really think Elza used the TP? darius_sedai - 28/06/2010 05:35:20 AM 1065 Views
I think the chance of that is zero Sidious - 28/06/2010 07:56:10 AM 1200 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero DomA - 28/06/2010 01:48:10 PM 1249 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero Sidious - 28/06/2010 06:50:57 PM 1170 Views
I agree scalius - 28/06/2010 10:10:04 PM 1176 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero DomA - 28/06/2010 11:17:19 PM 1132 Views
I agree as well Etzel - 29/06/2010 09:20:10 AM 1062 Views
Sensing the TP Rurouni_Kenshin - 01/07/2010 07:12:26 AM 955 Views
Re: Sensing the TP Sidious - 01/07/2010 08:56:42 AM 908 Views
Physical limitations make sense, BUT...: Joel - 29/06/2010 12:30:33 PM 1143 Views
It seems... Etzel - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM 1078 Views
Re: It seems... DomA - 29/06/2010 06:45:19 PM 1072 Views
Hmmm.... Etzel - 29/06/2010 07:08:30 PM 899 Views
Good points DomA - 29/06/2010 08:16:43 PM 1264 Views
That's a good observation scalius - 29/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 1073 Views
But there isn't anything magical in the sword preparing process, is there? Lordling - 29/06/2010 09:02:58 PM 916 Views
but the swords wear out over time so it could mean that the effect is only a temporary binding darius_sedai - 29/06/2010 09:07:01 PM 1181 Views
Yeah, that would make some sense! *NM* Etzel - 30/06/2010 09:59:07 AM 1027 Views
Some thoughts Sidious - 30/06/2010 12:15:25 PM 977 Views
Elza didn't use the true power Timthetrolloc - 28/06/2010 05:42:29 AM 1093 Views
Re: Elza didn't use the true power DomA - 28/06/2010 01:53:32 PM 1232 Views
It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. Joel - 29/06/2010 12:23:42 PM 1072 Views
Re: It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. DomA - 29/06/2010 06:12:14 PM 1163 Views
About use of the TP scalius - 29/06/2010 08:59:47 PM 1175 Views
UR WRONG Deadsy - 27/06/2010 11:09:35 PM 1055 Views
AM NOT111 Joel - 29/06/2010 12:32:09 PM 876 Views
I tend to doubt that one of them is a DF Etzel - 29/06/2010 09:45:58 AM 942 Views
"Helping" can be a very subjective term. Joel - 29/06/2010 12:37:09 PM 1024 Views
Re: "Helping" can be a very subjective term. DomA - 29/06/2010 06:31:11 PM 848 Views
I think it is Sorilea RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/06/2010 06:40:49 PM 1020 Views
Re: I think it is Sorilea DomA - 29/06/2010 07:57:38 PM 1071 Views
I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much darius_sedai - 29/06/2010 08:31:01 PM 1010 Views
I agree that seems a bit too nasty for RJ Etzel - 30/06/2010 08:43:00 AM 987 Views
Re: I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much DomA - 08/07/2010 02:20:32 PM 1174 Views
you are likley correct darius_sedai - 08/07/2010 03:09:33 PM 956 Views
Yes, Ingtar - wrong guy lol (posting from work) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/06/2010 12:30:54 PM 1108 Views
Perrin comes to mind. Anything to save Faile. He's been DF all alonng! who'd have guessed? *NM* Lohikaarme - 08/07/2010 01:08:24 PM 508 Views
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